Most valueable Honda invention!
02-03-2001, 04:24 AM
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Most valueable Honda invention!
Hey,I was just wondering what you think is the best thing that Honda has ever given to the Auto industry,excluding CL-S 
Is it the double wishbone suspension or the mass production of variable timing engines or something else?
One more thing who started this clear headlight business?As far as I remember the first car I saw with clear headlights was Honda Accord 90.Is there any earlier model of any manufacturer with clear headlights.
Thanx for reading.Now let's hear your comments.
Is it the double wishbone suspension or the mass production of variable timing engines or something else?One more thing who started this clear headlight business?As far as I remember the first car I saw with clear headlights was Honda Accord 90.Is there any earlier model of any manufacturer with clear headlights.
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02-03-2001, 04:32 AM
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I think the low emission done by Honda is really sucessful. 
the cleaniest car company.
it's the least we can do to help the planet.
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the cleaniest car company.
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2001 Acura CL Type-S. Blk/Blk w/Navi, Spoiler, PIAA Platinum Series Super White High Beams, PIAA 19169 Platinum Super White Wedge Bulbs, 20% / 5% tints.
So far four door dings, two on each side, DVD navigation system unit replaced, both driver and passenger side seat back fell off, and replaced both wipers and wind shield.
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02-03-2001, 01:08 PM
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I vote for the double wishbone suspension - 17 years driving Honda products and I always felt I had better handling and control than the tires and general body type would dictate.
As for emissions, I don't think it's as important as the mileage. 30MPG on the highway with 225 - 260 HP is real impressive.
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As for emissions, I don't think it's as important as the mileage. 30MPG on the highway with 225 - 260 HP is real impressive.
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02-03-2001, 01:50 PM
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Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
AEM CAI once they decide to make the dame thing.
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02-04-2001, 01:45 AM
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To me,it's the balance--Honda is great at building reliable cars that are fun to drive,get good mileage and are environment-friendly.--Quite a package!!
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02-04-2001, 01:51 AM
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VTEC!!!!!! j/p 
SULEV I saw that on some Accord I4 the other day. WOW.
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SULEV I saw that on some Accord I4 the other day. WOW.
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02-04-2001, 02:07 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Awais:
Hey,I was just wondering what you think is the best thing that Honda has ever given to the Auto</font>
Hey,I was just wondering what you think is the best thing that Honda has ever given to the Auto</font>
I know there are exceptions to this rule, but not as many as one might expect with a Ford or GM product.
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You sure Honda invented double wishbone suspension? I don't think that's the case. Anyhow, VTEC gets my vote and thank you Honda for actively participating in Formula 1 where that technology was derived from.
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02-04-2001, 02:15 AM
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VTEC all the way, no doubt. it changed the industry. although honda didnt get the idea first, they perfected it and still to this day have the best version of it. vvtl and vanos dont come close
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02-04-2001, 06:50 AM
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if it wasnt for v-tec there would be no import scene period. we would all be driving mustangs and camaros still
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02-04-2001, 12:14 PM
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Good build quality with non-union American labor. This says soemthing about our economy. Fords are crap. So is GM and Dodge. What differences do they have in manufacturing? None. Same machines, same training. Honda is non-union. The big three are. Why would this affect build quality? Have you ever tried to fire a union worker? Its next to impossible. Honda will do pretty much anything to keep the union out of there. They pretty much exceed whatever union workers get as far as pay and benefits. The last thing Honda wants is a union rutning them into an expensive GM. Does Mercedes or Toyota use union labor?
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no "phat" chics either.
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02-04-2001, 05:31 PM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by LuckyCL:
Good build quality with non-union American labor.
Honda is non-union.
The big three are.
Honda will do pretty much anything to keep the union out of there.
The last thing Honda wants is a union rutning them into an expensive GM.
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Good build quality with non-union American labor.
Honda is non-union.
The big three are.
Honda will do pretty much anything to keep the union out of there.
The last thing Honda wants is a union rutning them into an expensive GM.
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I remember reading a story a few years back where a factory worker at a FORD plant had won a brand new Honda Accord in some type of a contest.
She refused the prize because she was a “good union worker”.
The story noted that she was unaware that the Honda was made at a union factory just like the one she worked at.
For her “performance” in front of the press, she was given a Ford Taurus from upper management as compensation for the Honda.
I could have remembered wrong though.
Shawn S
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02-05-2001, 01:10 AM
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What do you mean by clear headlight? Do you mean the multi-reflective halogen headlights? Yes if i am not mistaken 90 Honda Accord was the first one equipped with them and after that many cars followed and right now almost all the new cars have them except those with high intensity discharge xenon headlamps. Well in my opinion VTEC gives me the clearest impression of what Honda really is - it is a youthful car company that makes high performace affordable sport cars. And Honda is the only japanese car company that never uses any turbo or supercharger on any of it's automobiles, and I like that, that make it so special.
02-05-2001, 02:22 AM
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What's Honda's contribution to automobiledom?
Proving that lightweight, FWD 4-bangers can be viable sporting machines... oh wait, that was the Mini Cooper.
Then it must be high-knuckle SLA double-wishbones... oh wait, way too many people did/are doing that.
It must be variable valve lift/timing (corporate lingo = VTEC)... nope, many automobile manufacturers played around with the idea, but the deemed the increased cost pointless, when said cost can used to simply build a bigger engine.
Could it be high specific output? Even old racing engines were built with high specific output, as were old Ferraris.
IMO, Honda's true contribution to automobiledom is utilizing their experience in motorcycle engines to prove that high-RPM and reliability are not mutually exclusive.
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Proving that lightweight, FWD 4-bangers can be viable sporting machines... oh wait, that was the Mini Cooper.
Then it must be high-knuckle SLA double-wishbones... oh wait, way too many people did/are doing that.
It must be variable valve lift/timing (corporate lingo = VTEC)... nope, many automobile manufacturers played around with the idea, but the deemed the increased cost pointless, when said cost can used to simply build a bigger engine.
Could it be high specific output? Even old racing engines were built with high specific output, as were old Ferraris.
IMO, Honda's true contribution to automobiledom is utilizing their experience in motorcycle engines to prove that high-RPM and reliability are not mutually exclusive.
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02-05-2001, 05:07 AM
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VTEC and reliability. Not to mention a lot of standard features in their cars for a good price such as Accord EX V6, TL, and CL.
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02-05-2001, 10:10 AM
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Nope... I remmebered that story too. I did my econ 201 paper on the unions. She refused the car because it was non-union built. That's the ONLY difference between the big three and Honda. Same equipment same everything.
Honda will pretty much do anything to keep them non-union.
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Honda will pretty much do anything to keep them non-union.
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02-05-2001, 10:45 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Soichiro:
To me,it's the balance--Honda is great at building reliable cars that are fun to drive,get good mileage and are environment-friendly.--Quite a package!!
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To me,it's the balance--Honda is great at building reliable cars that are fun to drive,get good mileage and are environment-friendly.--Quite a package!!
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02-05-2001, 01:37 PM
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Small engines big power. No one can make a 4banger do the things that onda can. The ford Mustang GT has a 4.6l V8 and only has 260hp. A one lliter smaller, 2 cylinder less engine same HP go Honda.
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VTEC!!! High HP output, great gas mileage, and low emissions. Reliability and resale value are an added plus!
I think the double-wishbone suspension was invented by the Italians.
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I think the double-wishbone suspension was invented by the Italians.
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The most valuable honda invention is definately the early 80s Honda CVCC AWD wagon.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Shawn S:
I thought the US Honda factories were union run.
I remember reading a story a few years back where a factory worker at a FORD plant had won a brand new Honda Accord in some type of a contest.
She refused the prize because she was a “good union worker”.
The story noted that she was unaware that the Honda was made at a union factory just like the one she worked at.
For her “performance” in front of the press, she was given a Ford Taurus from upper management as compensation for the Honda.
I could have remembered wrong though.
Shawn S
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I thought the US Honda factories were union run.
I remember reading a story a few years back where a factory worker at a FORD plant had won a brand new Honda Accord in some type of a contest.
She refused the prize because she was a “good union worker”.
The story noted that she was unaware that the Honda was made at a union factory just like the one she worked at.
For her “performance” in front of the press, she was given a Ford Taurus from upper management as compensation for the Honda.
I could have remembered wrong though.
Shawn S
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02-06-2001, 03:34 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by MikeN:
I think the double-wishbone suspension was invented by the Italians.
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I think the double-wishbone suspension was invented by the Italians.
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Serious thought must go to: The Insight and its VTEC(TM)-E
It's the closest we've yet seen to a practical virtual motion machine.
http://4at3.net/KC15981476.1181.0.1178
The Insight also won Automobile Magazine's 1999 "Technology of the Year" award.
....but its still to slow for me.
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It's the closest we've yet seen to a practical virtual motion machine.
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The Insight also won Automobile Magazine's 1999 "Technology of the Year" award.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">"The Insight, America's first hybrid gasoline-electric automobile, is so innovative that it actually recycles its own horsepower. It achieves its remarkable 68 miles per gallon on the highway by combining two Honda innovations: a clean-running, highly efficient, 1.0 liter, 12-valve, 3-cylinder VTEC(TM)-E (variable valve tuning and lift electronic control) gasoline engine, which is the main power source, and a powerful, ultra-thin electric motor. Called the Integrated Motor Assist (IMA(TM)) System, it uses the electric motor to maintain the Insight's lively performance by augmenting the output of the gasoline engine. The electric motor draws its power from a set of batteries that are recharged as you drive normally. You'll never need to plug the Insight into an external charger."
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Awais:
I don't know what they called this suspension system in the F1 cars but Honda perfected this system so that it can be used in production cars.Doublewishbone was a Honda patent
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I don't know what they called this suspension system in the F1 cars but Honda perfected this system so that it can be used in production cars.Doublewishbone was a Honda patent
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I'd have to see proof on this one to believe it. I certainly don't doubt Honda could do it, but I believe the Lamborginis, Ferraris and Alphas had wiishbone suspensions in the '60s.
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