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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 09:24 AM
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I was going to try and take care of this without asking however, I decided I'll take some pre-repair advice before I touch it.

My driver's seatbelt...

For awhile now I've noticed the seatbelt latch has been making this creaking sound. It's really annoying. Most of the time when I am by myself I can't hear it because the stereo is too loud. On the other hand, when I have someone else in the car with me and the music is turned down, the noise from the seatbelt latch is somewhat annoying and embarrasing. It only does this noise when I go over some bumps, move in the seat, or breath. All in all, it's basically unavoidable and it's starting to drive me nuts.

Now... I understand Honda has a lifetime warranty on seatbelts but... I don't really want to take it to the dealer because 1.) I doubt they'll warranty a seatbelt because it's "making creaking sounds"; 2.) I hate going to the dealership because customer service out here sucks; And 3.) Because everytime I take my car to a dealer out here they screw something else up on the car in the process. :shakehead

Has anyone had this problem and what did you do about it? Anyone have any ideas? Can I take the latch apart and maybe grease the internals? I've been pretty brave about doing things on this car myself but we're talking a saftey issue in this case. I've never taken a seatbelt apart before so I don't know what to expect.

Thanks for the help guys (and girls)!
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 10:11 AM
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It's a safety device, let the dealer replace it. I think they have to replace any fault with a seat belt. I'm annoyed at my seat belt cause when unbuckled it doesn't roll back in all the way much of the time. The roller seems weak.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 10:17 AM
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Originally Posted by 123456SPEED
It's a safety device, let the dealer replace it. I think they have to replace any fault with a seat belt. I'm annoyed at my seat belt cause when unbuckled it doesn't roll back in all the way much of the time. The roller seems weak.
I have that same problem but I think it's pretty common among us CL owners. I remember reading something about that being one of the owners major complaints when it first came out. It is annoying.

EDIT: Do you think the internals of that latch would really be all that complicated?
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 10:20 AM
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judging from airplane seatbelts, probably not. as a start I'd think that a squirt of WD40 wouldn't hurt anything
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 11:07 AM
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Originally Posted by RUPNOK
judging from airplane seatbelts, probably not. as a start I'd think that a squirt of WD40 wouldn't hurt anything
I thought about doing that but honestly I didn't want my interior to smell like WD40 nor did I want it to leak out on my seat. Also, it's not really a squeak, it's a creak rather. Slightly different. That's why I suggested grease inside the latch.

Humm, I wonder what it would cost to just buy a new latch...
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 11:13 AM
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Originally Posted by 123456SPEED
I'm annoyed at my seat belt cause when unbuckled it doesn't roll back in all the way much of the time. The roller seems weak.
That happens to me too. I hate it when i jump out of the car quick and close the door only to slam it on the seat belt buckle that didnt retract
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 11:16 AM
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So I just checked and the "buckle" is about $30 from acuraautomotiveparts.org. It might be worth it to just go ahead and replace it altogether.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 11:20 AM
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id really try the dealer since this is a safety issue

do what i do, take pics of your car at the dealership so if u find something they damaged, they cant blame it on you or say it was there before
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 11:39 AM
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They all creak. It's not a safety issue.

I found this fix on the TL board.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112808

Originally Posted by 2002AcuraTL
The squeak is caused by a metal tension washer digging into the nylon washer where the seat bolt passes through the buckle mounting arm. Remove the seat by undoing the 4 bolts that hold it to the floor, then remove the bolt holding the seat belt buckle arm to the seat frame. You will see a thin metal washer with a wavy shape to it. Discard this washer and reattach the arm to the seat. The squeak will be gone for good. The washer serves little purpose other that to supposedly hold the buckle arm upright when the belt is unfastened, but there are stops that prevent the arm from travelling up or down more than a few inches in either direction so the arm cannot fall down out of the way in between the seat and center console regardless of the silly washer. And if you tighten the seat bolt pretty hard, you'll see that the buckle arm wont move at all, so tighten fully, then take off just a little tension so it moves ever so much up or down and you will be all set. Did this 60k miles ago on my TL and have had no noise since.
Spraying WD40 will only silence it temporarily.

If i can find the ones I removed from both front seat belts I will upload a pic of what it looks like, but you cant miss it once you remove the seat arm bolt. One word of note here, dont waste time trying to remove the bolt while the seat is in the car. Because of where its located, its nearly impossible to get any wrench on it while the seat is in place. It will take you under 2 minutes to remove the 4 seat bolts and you dont even have to take the seat out of the car. Just turn it enough sideways to get a socket on it.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 11:44 AM
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Whats more annoying is how if someone isn't seated in the passengers seat correctly, the SRS or is it the Passenger Side Airbag sensor lights up.
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 12:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
They all creak. It's not a safety issue.

I found this fix on the TL board.

https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=112808
That's a great find! Even though my creaking is actually in the buckle itself, I may give this a shot anyway.

Thanks NSX NEXT!
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 12:16 PM
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Originally Posted by JBlueCLS6
Whats more annoying is how if someone isn't seated in the passengers seat correctly, the SRS or is it the Passenger Side Airbag sensor lights up.

Um that's doing that for a reason.

What's more annoying? Getting hit with an airbag in a frontal impact and not sitting properly in the seat. An airbag can kill you if you aren't seated properly.

Don't believe me? Airbags Kill
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Old Jun 22, 2006 | 01:04 PM
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i hear a creaking too when my weight shifts within my seat. but i don't quite think it's my satbelt. i'm almost sure it's the seat. does anyone else's seat creak? it's about time to take my seats out and clean and maybe grease anyhow.

keep us posted on your progress, Chris.
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Old Jun 23, 2006 | 06:41 AM
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FYI. If you do this work yourself, be careful. There is a sensor in the seatbelt buckle that works with the SRS system. My SRS light recently came on and stayed on. I took it to the dealer and the sensor in the buckle had gone bad. They replaced it and the light is now off.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 11:41 AM
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Guys, does anyone know if I pull out the seat, will the SRS light need to be reset or anything once I put everything back in? The reason I ask is that last weekend I was helping my brother install sat. radio in his Murano and the same thing happened. It came on immediately since we had to turn the ignition on with the seat out. Once everything was back together, we had to reset it using the service manual procedure. I was thinking of tackling this today since I don't have much going on. If someone has done this, please let me know ASAP. Thanks!
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 12:50 PM
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i'm pretty sure that seatbelts can't be shipped to you residentially.

if you do end up setting the SRS light off, just reset the ecu since you know you set it off and know theres nothing wrong.
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Old Jul 4, 2006 | 01:51 PM
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Originally Posted by Lord Helmet
Guys, does anyone know if I pull out the seat, will the SRS light need to be reset or anything once I put everything back in? The reason I ask is that last weekend I was helping my brother install sat. radio in his Murano and the same thing happened. It came on immediately since we had to turn the ignition on with the seat out. Once everything was back together, we had to reset it using the service manual procedure. I was thinking of tackling this today since I don't have much going on. If someone has done this, please let me know ASAP. Thanks!
Taking out the seats does not affect anything and you will not need to reset anything. I removed the seats in my CLS without any issues or having to reset anything. Then again anything could happen!! My advise would be to remove the seats without turning anything on that could cause an issue with the SRS system.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 12:25 AM
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I never did find time to fix this today. Thanks for the help though, guys. I'll get around to it soon enough before it drives me mad.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 05:18 AM
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i'm pretty sure that seatbelts can't be shipped to you residentially.
I dunno about that. i've ordered some pretty weird stuff online before that Iw as surprised they actually sent to me, lol. nothing illegal, just something strange to have shipped residential.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 02:57 PM
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i'm not sure, i thought i read on acrura carland they wouldnt ship safety devices like that, but im not positive.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 04:51 PM
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if i were a manufacturer i wouldn't ship safety devices to a residence. that seems like a huge liability.
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:32 PM
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seatbelt

I had a problem were the seatbelt not retracting back. Took it to the dealer and they replaced it for free. I looked up the price for replacement seatbeat and it was almost $200. My dealer takes care of me even though I'm on the 4th tranny.
Look at my reciept
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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 06:47 PM
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bigger reciept

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Old Jul 5, 2006 | 09:14 PM
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Originally Posted by NSXNEXT
Um that's doing that for a reason.

What's more annoying? Getting hit with an airbag in a frontal impact and not sitting properly in the seat. An airbag can kill you if you aren't seated properly.

Don't believe me? Airbags Kill
[rant=on]I only read three of those stories and I can't really blame any of those on the airbags. In the first one the lady wasn't wearing her seatbelt when she ran into a tree. So they say the airbag killed her when it deployed and what you think the steering wheel wouldn't have if the airbag didn't deploy. In the second the guy put the rear facing child seat in front of the airbag, everyone should know not to do that they have the warning stickers on the airbag when you get the car not to put child seats there. I understand that there was no backseat so the guy should've turned the airbag off. In the third the lady was driving with her kid in her lap and she got in a wreck and killed her son. these were all user error not the airbags fault it was just doing it's job. Guns don't kill people people kill people, if we didn't have guns everyone would just stab each other to death like they do in England where there's no guns.[/rant=off]
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