krisdlm

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I have a question regarding the rsx fuel injectors and the hbp s/c. I was considering getting the k20s off a member in the bm, but I dunno if I can run stock fuel injectors on a hbp or would I need to upgrade. I think siggy did it on his swap, but I wanto know if I really need them?

Accord_V6_400m

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I've heard of people running stock injectors just need great tuning and FPR to boot.

You could also use 310cc RDX injectors heard those work too, Siggy is using 360cc S2K injectors.

SIRSIG

s2k 360cc flow rate @ 43 psi

not sure if rsx will fit on J32...

we need something like this Okada Ignition coils but it's too expensive and we don't have something for J engines

MSD make a similar product for DIS, but also not sure if it's gonna work...

srehmat02

Isn't Sean running RSX-S injectors on his J32?

NightRider

I think there is only a certain amount of tuning you can do before you reach a plateau where injector upgrade becomes almost a necessity, especially with HBP. If S2K injectors have higher flow and are guaranteed to be compatible, why not go with them? I am sure you can find some for less than brand new cost somewhere.

krisdlm

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so I guess s2k injectors it is

krisdlm

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are you still parting out, if so, would you be willing to sell the injectors?

Accord_V6_400m

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He was only considerng parting out for a turbo kit in which case he expressed to me that he would almost without a doubt keep the injectors.

SIRSIG

^
what he said

that' turbo kit was very tempting, but i don't wanna spend 2 more gran on top of it. I'll just wait for Richie's kit, it should be awesome

aftershock141

Why not just buy RC 650's or something?

aftershock141

Nevermind I realize you guys don't really have anything for engine management. That really stinks.

Accord_V6_400m

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Thanks for rubbing it in our faces

ThinJim

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Then there's my kit, tried and proven and in excellent shape. People always try to save a buck, but in the end, disaster, take a look at the vvv666net site, logans old kit. seems it was a complete failure and waste of money. Mine, you just bolt on and go. And you can thank allmotor for that. look here... https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...hlight=thinjim

SIRSIG

what is mainly the difference between your kit and his kit other than the obvious? what made his turbo set-up failed? Is it because of tuning, 3.5 swap, or something else?

krisdlm

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anyone know where I could get some s2k injectors?

SIRSIG

www.s2ki.com

krisdlm

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hey siggy, should i just post in bm section or is there another place i should look

SIRSIG

i suggest on going to WTB section and look around who's selling injectors and hit them a PM. or you can always go to www.hondaautomotiveparts.com

krisdlm

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found some on ebay, but there are only 4: http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...ayphotohosting

SIRSIG

as long as a direct bolt-on (OEM replacement) you should be fine...

krisdlm

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would I need 2 more though?

typeR

r u kidding ...no itll be just fine to run 4 cylinders rich and two lean...come on

SIRSIG

NightRider

Unless you want your engine to

krisdlm

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i shouldve known better, i need to run a couple cylinders lean

Allout

You can always buy another set of 4 and sell two to someone doing the same as you. Shoot me a price if you end up with two extras.

NightRider

NO what we mean is you will need 6 S2K injectors...since forced induction pushes more air into the engine, so to compensate you need more fuel. 2 less injectors would provide you with less fuel.

typeR

omg

o1s

we have a winner!

krisdlm

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for sure

foreveraflboy

this is getting bad

SIRSIG

christ

krisdlm

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sig, how much did you pay for your injectors? The place on ebay is trying to sell me 6 for $529. Is that a good price? I had no luck w/ the forum, but if I went w/ samir's rsx ones what would be the downside? Their only like 60 compared to 529

Cocoa

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Have you maxed out the stock injectors?

Cocoa

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It's not magic, throwing in larger injectors doesn't guarentee anything except that the ecu will shorten the pulse of the injectors because they are larger.

Big injectors = ecu shortening the pulse
stock injectors = ecu trying to lengthen the pulse if needed

Pulse = the time that the injectors stay on spraying

All you need is a piggyback and a good tune. That will help whatever problem or fear you're having of running lean/rich/or whatever it is you want.

Stock ecu's will always compensate for whatever it is you throw at them.

Tuning is everything.

krisdlm

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not yet, still need to install the s/c & get tuned

SIRSIG

with what? cause you should really be OK with stock injectors for now if you'll just boost it to 6psi, that ofcourse with e-manage tuning imo...

krisdlm

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so what your saying is that w/ the emanage I should be fine running the hbp w/ stock injectors

NightRider

It's always good if you are going to run HBP to Emanage tune and take it from there, it may be fine...better than wasting money on injectors if you don't need them for your setup

SIRSIG

no. i said, w/ the emanage you should be fine running the hbp w/ stock injectors

dude, seriously...


you can use your stock injectors using any type of piggyback, even with comptech's ESM, the only reason why most people use the blue e-manage is that it's proven to work with j32 engine real well and they get more out of it

with the ESM you are limited on tuning and basically will push your injectors to death.

with the e-manage it can have a total duty cycle of around 80% at 6k RPM which is safe and you can still have more room for improvement (power)

BTW, i'll let you know if i still have my HBP...