Amoeba

Right now I am so happy...from one of my good friends for graduation I just got a brand new Valentine One. For now here are the questions.

When the V1 initially was powered on there was the letter A, my friend has his always on L....whats the most effective mode as in letter A mode the detector was going off every second and was unreliable.

Also I was going to purchase an X50 because of the pop mode, but I dont have to any more . I know the V1 does not detect pop mode and so I was wondering how much this POP mode is used, because I do not want to get hit with it and pulled over when a Escort X50 would have saved me.

Also I hear the V1 is the best radar mounted detector for laser...is this true? How can I check what version I have. Thanks guys

mrsteve

iTrader: (1)

1) Keep it in L mode
2) POP mode is really new and not that many police departments use it yet, most have already made the switch to laser.
3) Check which version you have by entering your serial number on their website.

If you still want the X50 you can sell the V1 on eBay for almost $400.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll...sPageName=WDVW

Amoeba

I could never sell this since my friend and his family gave it to me as a graduation present. They will be expecting to see it everytime I see them in the future such as spring break and other vacations back from college. Besides the inability to capture POP mode, can the x50 beat it in anything else?

CLpower

Mike V is on a forum I frequent and this is what he said in reference to POP


"Hi everybody! You managed to bait me really well this time!

Well, I have to admit that I have never heard of "POP3".

Our web site has a whole section on the POP feature used in the MPH BEE III Ka-band radar gun, which you seem to have read. Perhaps the "III" from the radar name and "POP" have become "urban legend-ized" into "POP3".

While there have been claims from speedzones.com that many detectors (including V1) pick up K-band POP signals, we have not been able to independantly replicate the same results. We have in our possession an MPH Industries Enforcer Moving Radar that was obtained in the K-band version. In our testing, detectors mentioned by speedzones as able to find K-band POP, can't detect the Enforcer when it's operated in the POP mode. This is very strange. We've evaluated a number of samples of new BEL/Escort detectors (RX65, 995, 8500x50) that claim to detect POP that don't respond to the Enforcer's K-band POP signal either.

It has been mentioned before that Carl Fors, the speedzones owner, has had various dealings with my competitors as well as police radar makers, and I can't help wondering what was going on in the Summer 2003 detector test he performed -- especially with his POP testing and results (same data as used in Motor Trend "test").

We, of course, have long been working on a V1 upgrade for POP. This would include Ka-band POP from the BEE III as well as K-band POP from the Enforcer. The main riddle to be solved is how to separate POP signals (only .067 seconds duration) from junk-signals that are radiated from hundreds of thousands of BEL and Cobra radar detectors. These detector-generated junk-signals have frequency and duration characteristcs that are nearly identical to real POP signals.

It's quite a challenge to give useful warning of POP radars without beating users' ears deaf with false alarms from all the offending BEL and Cobra detectors in circulation. If one were to merely tone down the sensitivity to short duration signals, to mask or lessen the presence of the BEL/Cobra junk, then only strict line-of-sight detection of real POP radar signals would be possible. Forget over-the-hill or around-the-corner warnings.

Of course, with the way speedzones.com and radartest.com compare detectors, line-of-sight detection is all that is likely to be tested. Over-the-hill and around-the-corner warning performance would be left up to the imagination of their readers (thereby glossing over deficiencies of products that are too weak to detect POP beyond mere line-of-sight).

In sum:

A) The new BEL/Escort detectors we bought DO NOT pick up K-band POP from the MPH Enforcer (even after re-programming POP mode to "On"). Read the fine print in their ads or instruction books.

B) The problem to be overcome to gain useful POP detection capability is the grotesque on-the-road interference radiating from BEL and Cobra radar detectors in other poeples' vehicles. Even BEL/Escort knows this since their Ka-band-only POP feature is defaulted to "Off" when leaving the factory (one has to manually program POP reception to "On'). One may assume this is to prevent product returns -- "too much false signal beeping" -- from the unwary.

Oh well, I'm sure we'll figure out a good solution for V1.

Cheers,
Mike"

CLpower

I found it interesting and imformative

Amoeba

Very interesting, thank you! By the way, which forum is that, that he is on.

CLpower

rennlist, it's a porsche forum. you wouldn't know it was him, this thread was the first one he revealed himself on. it was funny.

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

I actually like my detector to pick up everything.. and since I do 85% highway driving I leave my V1 on "A", so it picks up all signals.

fuzzy02CLS

iTrader: (2)

I have mine on A with x band turned off. I get very few falses & the ones I do get I know whar's real & what's not. You can turn x off in south FL. It's not used anywhere in FL except those small hick towns in the west & north parts.

darrinb

congrats on the gift

Amoeba

i like the idea of A with X band turned off, because I have been using the L mode and X is constantly going off.

CLpower

X isn't constanly off on my L mode


how do you turn X off on A?

Amoeba

no I mean on L mode X band alerts are false and way to frequent.

CLpower

I just got owned

fuzzy02CLS

iTrader: (2)

I have run with the V1 for 3 years like this with no problems, or times where X has been used. I aslo ran a year with the 8500 the same way HW with X off. I have driven all through palm beach, Miami, Boca, & up to Orlando turnpike & 95.

NOVAwhiteTypeS

A with X band turned off. only turn on X when im going to NYC passing NJ

CLpower

how the fuck do you turn X band off in A mode homos!

Nashua_Night_Hawk

CLpower... RTFM i.e. read the "nice" fuking manual first... or check the V1 website

NiteQwill

You can program the V1 to your liking regardless of which mode you are in in advanced mode, NOT just switching to A, L, or l.

Turn off your V1
Hold the control button down while turning it on
Wait til it flashes lights
Release
It should state your version number and software
Press button again
Arrows up and down with the number signify which options to choose: Check Mike's website to program all the different options

Now everytime you turn on your detector is should have P on your display with a laser-type warning sound to show you are in Advanced Programming mode.

Me: Turn off X, enable Gaurd mode, increase Ka and K sensitivity, set V1 on L

Hope this helps

CLpower

haha 5 years w/ this thing and I never knew that

NiteQwill

Learn something new everyday huh? Today, I learned there are 128 ridges on a quarter and 119 ridges on a dime, pennies and nickels, NONE, haha. Snapple caps, gotta love em....

kensteele

AFAIK, the use of POP radar is not recognized in court. The POP feature of a particular radar unit has to be used in conjuction with the recognized regular radar characteristics, which the V1 certainly CAN detect. Am I understanding this correctly?

Congrats, which version of V1 do you have? You can always sell it on eBay and purchase another V1 new and upgraded already....for less than it costs to upgrade your present unit thru Mike V.

BTW, I've had X turned off for years...haven't missed it.

Amoeba

Hmm...where on the website is where you can see all the advanced programming codes? I didnt see any of this in the manual.

`ill*tl

http://www.valentine1.com/lab/MikesLabRpt3.asp

Amoeba

Niteqwill I turned off X, and I did not enable guard mode as its already enabled as a default, and increased KA sensitivity, but I did not see an option to increase K sensitivity, just made sure the arrow was pointing down on option 5 according to the V1 site for KA sensitivity.

This seems like a good combo, have you got any tickets using this combo before?

NiteQwill

I was probably mistaken on the K band part. But, it's a good combo IMHO. It actually saved me today on the freeway as I was in the #1 lane going 10mph over and it went off. I slowed, and the car next to me passed me and honked because of my reaction. About 1.5 miles later, I see the CHP climbin fast on the carpool lane chasing someone... it was the guy who passed me.

The V1 has so far saved me from 2 lasers and two Ka band. 4 times the price of tickets, this unit has paid for itself.

Amoeba

Nice, on the advanced programming mode, I enable KA to be more sensitive, but I was reading into it more and I think it just gives a more responsive signal strength read, not actually have a more responsive KA band, whats the point of this?

Shawn S

I use the Advanced Logic “L” setting all the time around town to reduce false alarms.
The only time I switch to “l” or “A” is when I’m on the Interstates for an extended distance.

kensteele

It is related to auto (un)muting.

Amoeba

Should I keep the non default mode on for the KA sensitivity option.

Also, the V1 is great, saved me in my neighborhood going 40 in a 25, the V1 went crazy before the corner and I had plenty of time to slow down.

Also, does everyones V1 do a quick laser alert just when leaving the tollbooth's on the turnpike?

`ill*tl

http://www.valentine1.com/lab/Previously7.asp

fuzzy02CLS

iTrader: (2)

Yep. Strange though not all of them. Sure it's the Sunpass sensor. Didn't do it before it went mainstream. The 8500 I had did the same thing.

Glad you got to see how a really good detector works compared to the chaper ones you had. You can now appreciate why so many guys push the V1.

I read the KA sensivity thing too & also gather it's just diplays the response quicker, but doesn't give you better range. Although if it displays quicker then you might get a better warning. I have mine turned on.