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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:31 PM
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Jackson Racing SC..

http://www.overboost.com/pix.asp?ima...l/DSCN6373.jpg

http://www.overboost.com/pix.asp?ima...l/DSCN6374.jpg

Pics were posted over at accordv6.com. No info released yet!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:43 PM
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looks better designed than CT... it does not block the Spark plugs!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 02:46 PM
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and no need 2 replace stock battery


reported by JR to be more efficent in design and method of power delivery than then comptech s/c

the s/c wars have begun????
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 03:06 PM
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Originally posted by unsure
the s/c wars have begun????
we can only hope
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 03:43 PM
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Huh, neat. I hope the specs get released soon. Looks to be interesting. However I wonder if CT will drop their prices to compete.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 03:51 PM
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Huh, neat. I hope the specs get released soon. Looks to be interesting. However I wonder if CT will drop their prices to compete.


HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH comptech drop their price to compete??? are you insane??!?!?! look at the headers!! comptech is being undercut by 700 FUCKING DOLLARS!! and they wont even come down to compete...


in any case, this Jackson racing S/C is MUCH better designed than comptech, this is serious business, much better placement, ease of access to spark plugs and also factory battery ok, thats genious!! kudos to Jackson racing for taking some more time in development!!! if this thing comes in at an equal price to the comptech, theres no question, Jackson all the way, if it comes in cheaper than the comptech, well, hahahaha, i guess comptech will be losing more business due to their lack of business principles about pricing with their competitors. i am really pleased to see this jackson racing support, i REALLY hope this thing comes out for the CL-S
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 03:54 PM
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This is good news, more companies making mods for the Accord/CL-S.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:31 PM
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Interesting,

It seem JR kept the stock intake/airbox, i wonder why they did that???? Maybe u can't put a CAI w/their SC???? I hope not
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 04:48 PM
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nice! i like it!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:00 PM
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:04 PM
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Originally posted by unsure
the s/c wars have begun????
Comptech: 52 auto tranies killed.
Jackson Racing: 47 auto trannies killed.

Guess Comptech comes out on top again, but seriously, hopefully more companies start making aftermarket performance parts for our cars at better prices than Comptech. Can't wait to see final specs on this supercharger.
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:14 PM
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I love it...! Iam sure it would priced at $3500 MSRP... 3X more thoughtful design than CT.... Yeah CT brags about top notch quality... There designer was somking some weed... THE JR SC is amazing compact it turns circle around the CT design... I think we can guess it would give some a cool 100 HP to the crank for the for the 3.2L Type-s or some 275 WHP!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:23 PM
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You don't even know what the gains will be or how much it will cost and you are already putting it ahead of what CT has out? How do you know what is a better design? Based on looks?
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:25 PM
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my best guess...
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:30 PM
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Jackson's SC had done wonders... and relativly priced around 3500 like night hawk said.

Now if we can get a stronger tranny then I'd jump on this right away
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 05:46 PM
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Jackson Racing I believe, has been around a little bit longer than CT and I wouldn't doubt Oscar Jackson and crew have done a great job w/ this s/c. I think the install looks factory neat. I gotta stop spending $$$ on mods tho, this is gettin' crazy!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 07:11 PM
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Jackson S/C

I just got an e-mail from Jackson Racing. They are NOT considering the CL-S 6spd (or auto) application at this time!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 07:56 PM
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I just got an e-mail from Jackson Racing. They are NOT considering the CL-S 6spd (or auto) application at this time!
awwwwwww~!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 07:56 PM
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i'm pretty sure the s/c will fit the cl/tl w/little mods no?


BTW, all JRSC promise a 40% increase in power, supposedly its a philosphy of theirs and if this holds true than that means the 200hp accord v6 will make 280hp
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 08:02 PM
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAH comptech drop their price to compete??? are you insane??!?!?! look at the headers!! comptech is being undercut by 700 FUCKING DOLLARS!! and they wont even come down to compete...

Main difference here is OBX is a crappy product. You get what you pay for. Not what I call competition. I'm still waiting for someone to measure the ports on the OBX and the CT's and compare the differences. And some dyno comparisons. (not including nashuas)

OBX designed for different heads Although they do fit, the ports are different.

Time will tell with more dynos.

And I don't see a reason for CT to drop their price. Mabye to $700. But I paid $500 for my CT's anyway
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Same thing as some people spend more on a wristwatch than another person might. They both tell time right?

Whoever one may give a better piece of mind. When you want to rely on it.


I do hope they consider the CLS a car to take the supercharger!
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Old Nov 6, 2002 | 09:08 PM
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I wonder if the Jackson S/C will fit the 2003 Accord 6-Speed? It is a 3.0 liter engine.




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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 01:25 AM
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Did you guys actually thing a compnay like jackson racing would make something for our cars? No one wants to make a mod for our car, unless it differs so slightly from a mod made to fit the Accord V6. Such as pullies, intake exhaust. simple crap that is the same is all we have and will ever have made. Sad but true.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 01:25 PM
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Im waiitng for the OBX turbo kit....for under $3K
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 01:28 PM
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Im waiitng for the OBX turbo kit....for under $3K
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 03:12 PM
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Nashua, you are a top notch fucking moron. I've been reading yoru post for A LONG TIME and you basically are an idiot. The design is basically IDENTICAL to comptechs except they lowered it a little bit to make the spark plugs easier to get to. I've seen the CT one and you can still get to the spark plugs. From my sources the blowers are the same, so you can expect it to give the same power output. CT's power output would be more but tranny issues made them limit it for now. And what I understand is the process of install on the JRSC is still difficult and requires some re routing of various things. Yes they did good by leaving the battery more accessible and the spark plugs too. But the setups are near identical. And I am no supporter of CT but their quality is TOP NOTCH!
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 03:19 PM
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tank your for oppinion, Jackson Racing is not BS... either... TOP NOTCH Quality... cost less comptech... and performs as well... and better designed... you agree me with on that and you call me an idiot....
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 03:22 PM
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I've seen the CT one and you can still get to the spark plugs. From my sources the blowers are the same, so you can expect it to give the same power output.

dont start talking shit when you are totally wrong....truth is that Mike B at COMPTECH (not a screwball at a dealer, not a freind of a freind of a freind, not some riceboy) HAS SAID THAT IN ORDER TO GET TO THE SPARK PLUGS, THE SUPERCHARGER MUST BE REMOVED!!

that is straight from the mouth of COMPTECH themselves, so whatever you saw or whoever you talked to is garbage, why would comptech lie and say you have to totally burden yourself with their product to get at the plugs?? doesnt make sense does it. also, if you look at the blower, it is definately NOT the same, the whole assembly looks similar, but it is CLEARLY not the same
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
tank your for oppinion, Jackson Racing is not BS... either... TOP NOTCH Quality... cost less comptech... and performs as well... and better designed... you agree me with on that and you call me an idiot....

I've never said the CT was a worse design, they will both have their tradoffs. From the possition that the JRSC one is in, it looks like you'd have to re route ALOT of hoses and such. They both have their trade offs.


And i know JR isn't BS, I've actually sat and had a few conversations w/ Oscar himself. He's a very intelligent man that makes killer projects some of which i've had personal experience with. I've been given an idea of what it's gonna cost to, it's not as cheap as you think, but it is a little bit cheaper the comptech.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 03:38 PM
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Originally posted by jimcol711
dont start talking shit when you are totally wrong....truth is that Mike B at COMPTECH (not a screwball at a dealer, not a freind of a freind of a freind, not some riceboy) HAS SAID THAT IN ORDER TO GET TO THE SPARK PLUGS, THE SUPERCHARGER MUST BE REMOVED!!

that is straight from the mouth of COMPTECH themselves, so whatever you saw or whoever you talked to is garbage, why would comptech lie and say you have to totally burden yourself with their product to get at the plugs?? doesnt make sense does it. also, if you look at the blower, it is definately NOT the same, the whole assembly looks similar, but it is CLEARLY not the same

From what I have seen, you can steel get a bent spark plug adapter down there to get the plugs out. But if mike B. says you can't, then you can't. from what i've heard they are both eaton blowers and share the same build specs.
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 04:04 PM
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Wow, such anger and hostility and this thread was supposed to make us all happy and gooey inside!
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 04:07 PM
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hopefully jackson racing will get their head out of their ass and realize that all they have to do is slightly modify that setup to fit the CL-S....
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Old Nov 7, 2002 | 04:23 PM
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Wow, such anger and hostility and this thread was supposed to make us all happy and gooey inside!
i don't see much
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 12:33 AM
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looks better designed than CT... it does not block the Spark plugs!
Better tell your boss at OBX about this. Maybe they can start working on their knockoff SC now.
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 12:59 AM
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sorry, I do not work for OBX.... Oh my GOD... you think I was working for OBX or SSAutochrome.. you are mistaken....

No appreciation for helping geting deals... damn it! I paid $495 for the OBX headers and you got deals at $340 shipped!

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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 07:05 AM
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jeeez....everyone lay of Nashua!! hahahahahah! The guy was just happy that there was something affordable for us!! hahahaha.
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 12:10 PM
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I've been talking to Jackson this week and they don't plan on making it for the CL/TL. Time to start the email blitz.
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:31 PM
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Steve thank's for your mail...About your question . Im sorry but we will not be making a sc application for your year and make..

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I asked him:
What drives JR's decisions on what car they will make SC Applications for ?

His Reply: Marketing Division


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Originally posted by jimcol711
hopefully jackson racing will get their head out of their ass and realize that all they have to do is slightly modify that setup to fit the CL-S....
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 01:52 PM
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well, for the hell of it, i just sent an email to that email address, lets see if they respond to it. the text of the email is as follows:


Oscar,



I am a senior member of a web forum dedicated to the Acura CL. You can visit our site at www.acura-cl.com. The site is made up of nearly 9,000 members and that number continues to grow on a daily basis. We were very excited at the prospect that Jackson Racing is developing a Supercharger for the Honda Accord with the V6 3.0 engine. We have seen photographs of the supercharger installed in a car and also on a stand-alone engine. As you may be aware, the Acura 3.2CL Type S shares the same engine block and many internal and external components as the Honda Accord V6 3.0. It would definitely be in the best interest of Jackson Racing to explore the possibility of releasing that supercharger for the Acura 3.2CL Type S as well as the Honda Accord V6.



One of your competitor companies, Comptech Sport, released a supercharger earlier this year for the Honda Accord V6. It is a very nice product but it suffers from some design issues that Jackson Racing seems to have solved. With the Comptech Sport Supercharger installed, the front 3 spark plugs are not accessible at all and also, the owner is required to either relocate the existing battery to the trunk or invest in a smaller battery that makes room for the Comptech Supercharger unit. Jackson Racing clearly has a better design in their supercharger and a product like that, attached with the Jackson Racing name known for quality and performance is very exciting indeed.



After a few months of further research and development, Comptech Sport realized that they could easily rework their supercharger to fit the Acura 3.2CL Type S. They have already released the supercharger for the new 2003 6 Speed manual transmission Acura CL-S and are in the final stages of the supercharger for the Automatic 2001-2003 CL-S. There are only slight differences between the supercharger for the Accord and the CL-S and this would also be the case for Jackson Racing.



On behalf of the many members of Acura-cl.com who own a 2001-2003 CL Type S, we are hoping that you will reconsider your decision to only sell this supercharger for the Honda Accord. The Acura CL Type S has a strong aftermarket following that would be very excited to see a supercharger from Jackson Racing to fit our application, not to mention the design superiority Jackson Racing has over the Comptech design. Hopefully Jackson Racing is aware that to release a supercharger for the Acura CL-S would not involve much work on design and development at all seeing as how they have already completed the supercharger for the Honda Accord.

If Jackson Racing can reengineer there Honda Accord Supercharger for the Acura CL-S and show equal or greater power gains than the Comptech Sport supercharger, there will be a very large number of people interested in it. Not to mention, if Jackson Racing could come in at a price equal to or lower than Comptech’s supercharger, that would stir up even more interest.



We are all anxiously hoping for another type of forced induction for the CL-S other than the Comptech Sport supercharger and Jackson Racing is definitely in a position to take over the market of superchargers for the CL-S. Please feel free to respond to this email as I will post it on the forum for all to read. Thank you for your time and consideration.







Sincerely,



Jim Collins
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 02:00 PM
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Re: Nope

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Steve thank's for your mail...About your question . Im sorry but we will not be making a sc application for your year and make..

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What drives JR's decisions on what car they will make SC Applications for ?

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1. I mentioned this a couple of times: A number of vendors have mentioned that their sales people received very few calls about parts for their brand and model of car. If you don't call the company asking about a product, some will assume that there is little or no interest. The volume of calls helps! (It won't guaranty that a part is made, but it sure makes sales people "itchy" when they see $$$ going elsewhere.)

2. There could be CARB related issues. I can't see enough of the design where it meets the intake, but if it was designed from the beginning to fit the Accord, CL/TL, CLS/TLS, and CLS 6-speed, there might only be an issue with how to amortize the CARB certification costs. There are many more Accords than CLs on the street. The CARB testing is EXPENSIVE and needs to be done on each model (a single test on a CLS with suitable documentation might do for the TLS AND CLS; the engine, intake, and other parts are basically identical).

3. It is also possible that the cast part extending up to the intake, as is, will not fit on a CLS and/or CLS 6-speed (I have no idea). They may not want to deal with the auto tranny issues and someone would need to look at the castings to see if someone would have to start a complete design cycle over again. Again: there are so many more Accords sold than the CLS; if the design is not modular, they would have to pay for new engineering/design, testing, manufacturing, casting, and certification.

In any event, if they only hear from 2 or 3 people, it is NOT going to help...

YMMV
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Old Nov 8, 2002 | 02:41 PM
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Flood them with Calls, Questions, Emails.

Only thing I know to do then. Looks like its got a start already !
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