In preparation of the upcoming dyno and subsequent and existing requests, I went ahead and did a BOM for the IC and determined the appropriate price for it. Below is the primary list for the intercooler and the associated parts. I was a bit surprised at the cost considering that it had been creeping up. Keeping in mind that this is a whole new upper manifold the price is very reasonable IMO.

For the complete kit as shown above the price would be: $1550.00

I also decided to provide the other options which will most likely be used in conjunction with the intercooler. They can be added on as required:

$575.00 Greddy e-Manage Main Unit, Support Tool, Ignition Harness, Injector Harness, CL/TL (5AT and 6-Speed) PnP Harness and Pre-programmed for the Intercooler Application

$125.00 8 PSI Supercharger Pulley (Requires the 3.275 Inch Alternator/Supercharger Drive Pulley)

$300.00 Polished Manifold/Intercooler and Piping Services

I haven't determined how to handle this when it comes to people purchasing. I'll probably just set up a website and allow for Paypal as some would prefer using credit cards.

As previously mentioned, dyno results will be provided soon. I expect that with the whole kit a 6-Speed should reliably make in the 370 - 380 WHP range with the 5AT making about 340 - 350 WHP.

 

How about us in cali, will we be able to run the hbp with 91 octane? I'm in for sure if that's the case .

 

Yes, we'll have to back off on timing a little bit more though. That would be in the e-Manage.

 

Good stuff Steve!!

 

That would turn my auto tranny to jello.

 

melted jello!

 

There goes the credit card again .

 

Thanks Ramanan,

It certainly has taken long enough. We may need to try something. I would love to see what type of numbers the turbo could make with this manifold and ice in the reservoir.

 

Also, this will be available for the AV6 as I have already done the drawings for the AV6 base plate. As you can see it was not as easy since the runners are not round like with the Type-S.

AV6 Base Plate

 

scalbert, as you're aware, I bought Modaddict's e-manage unit. He listed everything above except the ignition and injector harnesses and the pre-programming for the intercooler app.

On the off-chance that his does not come with those above, will you provide...

a) these harnesses...I really don't want to be splicing into anything if I don't need to.

b) pre-programming...it could possibly save me quite a bit of $$$ when it comes to dyno-tuning.

Thanks.

 

370-380 whp!!!! wow that is seriously impressive

 

Although I beleive your unit will come with these from Brad, yes, I can take care of whatever the needs may be.

 

Now for the tests though. If the new pulley comes in this week I will hopefully be able to make it to the dyno next Saturday and see what the actual results are.

 

holy crap...those numbers are insane

 

What does a "regular" supercharged CL-S put down?? I thought it was around 260 whp? Maybe 270?? I guess the pulley and intercooler make a huge difference.

I'm very impressed with your knowledge and ability to come up with all these new developments. Thanks for being such a pioneer for new modifications to our cars.

 

5AT, with Headers, Icebox and CT exhaust = 275

6MT, with Headers, Icebox and CT exhaust = 295 - 305

 

Scalbert, i guess the only other thing i could do is get a bullet proof tranny replacement Any recommendations ??

 

very nice..... I was wondering will this work for the cl-p? How many hp will it have?

 

Is Dean and Velocity Resources still making the bullet-proof tranny for our cars?

 

WOW! very impressive.
Scalbert I notice you don't list all of your mods. What all do you have performance wise, if you don't mind me asking?
If you wanted to coninue to gain power what would be the next most logical mods? Changing internals like cams?

 

I'm just trying to put together the chain of already produced power mods (minus the clutch & flywheel for the 5AT):
I/h/e/p/bp/flywheel/clutch/throttle body/fan & thermostat/emanage/FI/hbp/manifold -IC/?
or
I/h/e/p/bp/flywheel/clutch/throttle body/fan & thermostat/unichip/?

 

what do you think the #'s to the wheels would be? also will this effect the entire band? thanks.

 

i want it!

 

Dean may still have something in the works. I haven't heard about it lately though but it is worth dropping him a note.

 

With the lower compression and more boost it is conceivable that a CL-P could make in the 320 WHP range.

 

I just PM'd him asking.

 

Comptech Headers
Comptech Supercharger
Comptech High Boost Alternator/Supercharger Pulley
King Motorsports Ported Throttle Body
Mugen T-Stat
Mugen Fan Switch
Greddy e-Manage
Custom Manifold/Intercooler

As for more power than what I expect to achieve; I haven't really looked into it yet and may not. This is currently enough for this platform IMO and more is just an exercise in futility.

 

The later could get you up 275+ WHP. The former can get you about 100 WHP more but it would cost significantly more.

 

I would estimate that a drop os 10 - 15 WHP could be realized wiht the reduced timing. And yes, the power increases are most certainly across the entire band; from idle to redline.

 

Look up the thread, I am running his tranny rebuild. He just needs your tranny sent in for a swap.

 

Steve, I'd like to get the emanage kit from you, would you have maps for high boost non;intercooled? Thanks

 

That should not be a problem.

 

so in order to "incorporate" this new intercooler into our cars, we'd need the s/c to begin with, rite?

 

There is no point to the intercooler without forced induction of some sort.

 

It has everything but the pre-programming.

 

Nice work Steve!!!

Have you had a chance to do any street tuning yet?

 

Which is just a single file emailed away.

 

Just a little. I have added a little fuel up top and have removed all retard. So far there is no knock and it is running good. I got my WBO2 back and will be installing in the next couple of days. At which point I will tune further.

But I did find the weak point in a Liquid/Air IC application. I already knew this from my Typhoon but found it again. I was stopped in traffic in 85 F temps with full sun. Within 30 minutes the power was lower as the water had heated quite a bit. That is probably the biggest limitation of liquid/air systems. But at the track ice can be added for the greatest efficiency.

 

Would a fan (fans) on the exchanger help enough? It was part of the kit that came with the barrel type IC I started working with.

 

I have thought of this using a temperature activated switch. I'll keep tabs on the temps too to check on the absolute need.