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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 07:35 PM
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Inside information re: Turbocharged 2.2L Honda Engine

At work today I was talking with our scheduling guy and he just got a work request in for some turbo development for a 2.2L Honda engine! The work is for our group in Japan but the engine is a gasoline engine intended for a MY 2006 Honda vehicle. Acura or Honda we couldn't decide, but my guess is an Accord? Perhaps they are downsizing the base 2.4L engine to a 2.2L and turbocharging it for the same if not more power, plus a lighter and more fuel efficient package? Apparently testing is going to be done in Japan until it is ready for its America unveiling, which is usually the case... All I know is it's a ball-bearing unit. Anyway I thought this was interesting considering the recent talk about Honda going hybrid or turbo or AWD... looks like they are already working on turbo powered engines!
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 08:19 PM
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No word on a twin turbo 3.2L V6 RWD sport sedan w/ over 400hp??
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 08:32 PM
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hmmm, the 2.2 liter for the s2000....
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Old Oct 9, 2003 | 08:47 PM
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Hmm... that's a motor to work on!!
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 06:41 AM
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hmmm, the 2.2 liter for the s2000....
Yup the 2004 s2k has been bumped to a 2.2 litre. It has changed to a 8k redline and 20 more lbs of torque.
They also did minor changes to front and rear bumpers.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 06:42 AM
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 09:58 AM
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Yup the 2004 s2k has been bumped to a 2.2 litre. It has changed to a 8k redline and 20 more lbs of torque.
They also did minor changes to front and rear bumpers.
Oh ya... 04' s2k is getting bigger rims too
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 11:00 AM
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Could also be a TSX 2.2 turbocharged... TSX-S model
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 05:19 PM
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That'd ROCK!
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 05:24 PM
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A turbo is BAD for Honda. Of course its cheap to develop, but whats the fun in that. Any company can produce hp by slapping on a supercharger or turbo, but only the best engineers can make power without them. Honda, BMW, Ferrari.......
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 05:43 PM
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A turbo is BAD for Honda. Of course its cheap to develop, but whats the fun in that. Any company can produce hp by slapping on a supercharger or turbo, but only the best engineers can make power without them. Honda, BMW, Ferrari.......
i disagree.

plus, not everyone wants to rev for decent power.

i think forced induction is the future, more so than it already is.
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Old Oct 10, 2003 | 06:05 PM
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Originally posted by lyndon_h
A turbo is BAD for Honda. Of course its cheap to develop, but whats the fun in that. Any company can produce hp by slapping on a supercharger or turbo, but only the best engineers can make power without them. Honda, BMW, Ferrari.......
Are you fvcked up in the head, or do you always think like that?



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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 06:35 AM
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honda makes great engines, but people that do work to them almost never take the NA route if they can afford FI. Also BMW makes great motors, but maxes them out and leaves no room for an enthusiast. And BMW cars are just geared for speed thats why they get shitty gas mileage. Now Mercedes on the other hand, with all the supercharging and twin turboing is a balsy company and i'd take a CL65 or SL65 with over 600 horses and over 700 ft lbs of tq,over any bimmer any day.
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 06:37 AM
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also, dodge slapped a turbo on a neon and look at that machine. Its awesome. 20,000 bucs can get you a wrx killer. And i saw a video of a mopar modified srt-4 running the shit out of an m3 on the highway. Turbo stockers rule. they are very easy to work on
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 07:17 AM
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a turbo TSX would be THE SHIT
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 05:13 PM
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Originally posted by soopa
a turbo TSX would be THE SHIT
... but only if they release it after I get my '04 payed off so I can trade up to that biziotch
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 05:17 PM
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A turbo is BAD for Honda. Of course its cheap to develop, but whats the fun in that. Any company can produce hp by slapping on a supercharger or turbo, but only the best engineers can make power without them. Honda, BMW, Ferrari.......
I diagree...having a turbo engine from the factory would make modding it for big FI numbers a lot easier and cheaper...and of course more fun....I think Honda should use it in a type R series with all of or any of the civiv, TSX, RSX, and S2K...of course with an electronic center differential AWD system. Go after the STi and EVO!
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Old Oct 11, 2003 | 07:17 PM
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 01:16 PM
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why does honda and acura keep doing this damn shit? That accord looks almost exactly like the new TL. They made the 1st gen CL front end look almost exactly like the Accord. Car companies today need to stop blending the look of their different model cars. The new lexus sedan looks almost identical to the new camry. I can't justify spending 10 more grand for a Lexus over a Toyota or for an Acura over a Honda that looks exactly the same as a car currently in production.

Please tell me someone else out there has noticed and agrees with me.

I feel like i'm taking crazy pills
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 01:25 PM
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 01:55 PM
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I am fairly sure the turbo is for a 2.2 Diesel. Honda/Acura is VERY much into fuel economy and meeting LEV/ULEV standards... they won't stick a turbo in any of the cars that come out here.
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 03:08 PM
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Yeah that's what I thought too... keep asking and asking "are you sure, are you SURE..." but it is for a GASOLINE American car to be a 2006 model year. I'll believe it when I see it...
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Old Oct 12, 2003 | 06:53 PM
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Originally posted by nicholbr
why does honda and acura keep doing this damn shit? That accord looks almost exactly like the new TL.
Please tell me someone else out there has noticed and agrees with me.

I feel like i'm taking crazy pills

Its not copying the new tl. its acutally the euro accord, which s the honda badge tsx.

and yeah, i think you are taking crazy pills
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 09:19 AM
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Originally posted by nicholbr
why does honda and acura keep doing this damn shit? That accord looks almost exactly like the new TL. They made the 1st gen CL front end look almost exactly like the Accord. Car companies today need to stop blending the look of their different model cars. The new lexus sedan looks almost identical to the new camry. I can't justify spending 10 more grand for a Lexus over a Toyota or for an Acura over a Honda that looks exactly the same as a car currently in production.

Please tell me someone else out there has noticed and agrees with me.

I feel like i'm taking crazy pills
uh, like someone else said, that is the euro/jdm accord, which is the usdm acura tsx.
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Old Nov 1, 2003 | 06:42 PM
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Re: Inside information re: Turbocharged 2.2L Honda Engine

Originally posted by BlueCLS6
At work today I was talking with our scheduling guy and he just got a work request in for some turbo development for a 2.2L Honda engine! The work is for our group in Japan but the engine is a gasoline engine intended for a MY 2006 Honda vehicle. Acura or Honda we couldn't decide, but my guess is an Accord? Perhaps they are downsizing the base 2.4L engine to a 2.2L and turbocharging it for the same if not more power, plus a lighter and more fuel efficient package? Apparently testing is going to be done in Japan until it is ready for its America unveiling, which is usually the case... All I know is it's a ball-bearing unit. Anyway I thought this was interesting considering the recent talk about Honda going hybrid or turbo or AWD... looks like they are already working on turbo powered engines!
Since I'm old school Honda, forgive my ignorance but are you referring to the H series 2.2L (Prelude) or F series 2.2L (S2000) or a stroked K20A (RSX-S/ITR)?
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 09:44 AM
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So sometime last week one of my co-workers excitedly comes up to me and tells me that he heard from Honda (he used to work at Honda R&D) that the turbo engine is going into production in a 2007MY Accord! Again I will see it when I believe it, but that is pretty exciting. We always talk about how Honda doesn't need the expense or reliability concerns of a turbo because of their excellent VTEC technology and incredible power/displacement engines but I guess they are stepping it up a notch. Word is it's for the 6-cyl engine. Maybe a 300hp 3.0L V6... 350hp 3.5L V6 for the RL? I still want to see a turbo K24 TSX-S!! Oh another friend of mine (whos wife just had a baby girl yesterday!!! congrats Chris!) just left Garrett for a job with Honda Performance Development in Santa Clarita so I'm excited to hear what they have going on...
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 09:59 AM
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https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=297958
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 10:00 AM
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If a Turbocharged 2.2L motor finds its way into a TSX I've found my next car.
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 11:25 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
If a Turbocharged 2.2L motor finds its way into a TSX I've found my next car.
Same here. Thanks for the link btw...
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Old Feb 26, 2005 | 02:02 PM
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Originally Posted by nicholbr
why does honda and acura keep doing this damn shit? That accord looks almost exactly like the new TL. They made the 1st gen CL front end look almost exactly like the Accord. Car companies today need to stop blending the look of their different model cars. The new lexus sedan looks almost identical to the new camry. I can't justify spending 10 more grand for a Lexus over a Toyota or for an Acura over a Honda that looks exactly the same as a car currently in production.

Please tell me someone else out there has noticed and agrees with me.

I feel like i'm taking crazy pills
I agree, the new Avalon was reviewed by C&D and they were sayign the same shit. Even the interior was real LEXUSY.
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 07:24 AM
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Even if the Acura/Honda, Nissan/Infiniti and Lexus/Toyota were exactly the same, because of all the work that has gone into the branding, suburbanites will still buy them to impress their neighbors.

I would roll the VW/Audi into the same category, but I think Audi was around before VW, and was just bought out. Could be wrong though.
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 07:46 AM
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Originally Posted by bigman
also, dodge slapped a turbo on a neon and look at that machine. Its awesome. 20,000 bucs can get you a wrx killer. And i saw a video of a mopar modified srt-4 running the shit out of an m3 on the highway. Turbo stockers rule. they are very easy to work on
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 08:23 AM
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holy back from the dead, I was reading the first post and looked at the date.
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Old Apr 16, 2005 | 05:08 PM
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I think you will end up seeing a torbo-deisel in the CR-V, and a Deisel has already been promised in Europe. Honda also already endurance tested a Deisel powered Accord with 125 MPH sustained speeds and buttloads of torque, as well as getting great mileage. They'll keep this engine for the lower end cars to compete with VW and Jeep's Liberty Deisel due to arrive (has arrived?).
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Old Apr 17, 2005 | 03:38 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueCLS6
So sometime last week one of my co-workers excitedly comes up to me and tells me that he heard from Honda (he used to work at Honda R&D) that the turbo engine is going into production in a 2007MY Accord! Again I will see it when I believe it, but that is pretty exciting. We always talk about how Honda doesn't need the expense or reliability concerns of a turbo because of their excellent VTEC technology and incredible power/displacement engines but I guess they are stepping it up a notch. Word is it's for the 6-cyl engine. Maybe a 300hp 3.0L V6... 350hp 3.5L V6 for the RL? I still want to see a turbo K24 TSX-S!! Oh another friend of mine (whos wife just had a baby girl yesterday!!! congrats Chris!) just left Garrett for a job with Honda Performance Development in Santa Clarita so I'm excited to hear what they have going on...
Hmm HPD in Santa Clarita was primarily a Champ car lab a few years ago, is now an IRL CART facility and continues to do some more exciting things, exxxcellent.
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