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Old 04-22-2001, 09:28 PM
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Sorry to hear about your situation, hope everything works out for you.

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I did lots of stupid things when I was young also, never drink & drived though.
Just remember yourself at that age, invincible, and bad things never happen to you.
We can lecture all we want, unless he actually hit a minivan and killed a whole family, or left a two year old without parents, he will never understand exactly what he did or could have done.
Just about any night I drive, I see a car or two weaving between lanes. We can complain, but not much in general is being done.
In NJ, first offense is automatic loss of license for six months. Not really a deterint, as there are many drivers in NJ without licenses or insurance.


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FYI: while we all know that alcohol is colorless, it is also odorless, which means, yes, no smell, anybody who says they smelled "alcohol" on your breath full of shit.

<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by tinman:
By refusing to the test, not only will you get your license automatically suspended (for a year in many states), you still can be convicted of the DWI based on other evidence (officer noted strong smell of alcohol, bloodshot eyes, slurred words, etc).

That really sucks NOVA... Get a good lawyer and good luck with things!
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Alcohol odorless? Nope. Ever smelled pure ethanol?--It definately has a smell.

Pure water (hydrogen and oxygen only) is theoretically a colorless, odorless liquid.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by fbazakos:
FYI: while we all know that alcohol is colorless, it is also odorless, which means, yes, no smell, anybody who says they smelled "alcohol" on your breath full of shit.


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Ok, yes "alcohol" is odorless. But even a rookie cop can "smell" when you have consumed it.

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I think we've lectured him enough. Maybe its time to lock the thread?

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by JZ:

Pure water (hydrogen and oxygen only) is theoretically a colorless, odorless liquid.

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lets not forget tasteless, like some ppls comment on this board



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by eclipse23:

First off, anyone posting any lectures, look at yourself first. Have you ever made a mistake? PEOPLE IN GLASS HOUSES SHOULD NOT THROW STONES. Take all that "Holier than thou" Shit and shove it up your ass.
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so true

we should all be allowed to be a drunken, drugged, nonlicensed driver at least once in our lives.

after all it's good enough for Princess Di's driver.




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Hey, dude

Sorry to hear your "little" trouble but you should be glad that you and your friends are still alive.

I was in similar situation once (when I was much younger without much fear for anyting) and I crashed my brand new Lexus into a lightpole doing something like 90 mph. I hit it so hard that the whole lightpole with its cement foundation traveled more than 40 ft. Although the car was totalled instantly (almost bent in half), I walked out without a scratch.

CHP came few minutes later and they told me it's nothing less than a miracle that I was uninjured. Anyway, they let me go without pressing DUI charge. I guess they felt sorry for me for losing my brand new Lexus.

Since then I don't do that anymore. Don't ever drink & drive unless you want the free handicap parking right for the rest of your life.

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people die.. its the way it has to be.. overreacting about deaths in society in general causes us the loss of our rights as a people

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Ya lucky you don't live in NYC... They would have confiscated ya car and auctioned it off. Good luck....

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The last thing I would be doing, if I was in a world of shit like you, is post to this forum.



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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Satin01CL:
The last thing I would be doing, if I was in a world of shit like you, is post to this forum.

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First of all, your not ME. and your NOT in a 'world of shit'. And I did get alot of help and support from this fourm.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by NOVAwhiteTypeS:
First of all, your not ME. and your NOT in a 'world of shit'. And I did get alot of help and support from this fourm.

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NOVA:
No need to get defensive. The comment is intended to imply that I don't know how you could find the time to come here.

So, take it how you must....nevertheless I wish you well.

BTW (I probably missed it), did the Police get you on RADAR, or document any Reckless Driving charges?


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Okay, so i'm a little late posting... Is this why my cell phone rung a little after 4 a.m. on saturday?!!!

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by honey2001CL:


Okay, so i'm a little late posting... Is this why my cell phone rung a little after 4 a.m. on saturday?!!!

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Yeah, sorry needed a ride home, but its okay.


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There was a consideration by the Supreme Court to throw out the reading of the Miranda rights. I'm not sure if it ever passed, but the claim was that it's not fair that a case gets thrown out cause someone dones't get their rights read to them becuase by now, everyone knows what their Miranda right are anyways. To throw out a case cause of that is just a plain stupid technicality.

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Nova... dude sorry for the late reply... I was moving all weekend. Sorry to hear about your mishap. Hope everything comes out ok. If you want I can ask my friend who is in law school if he has any suggestions. Let me know if I can do anything to help out.

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NOVA, sorry to hear the bad news. just want you to know that you have my support. lemme know if i can be of any help. take care...

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What the heck are you talking about?
Which freedoms are you speaking of in this case. Maybe the freedom to act a fool and endanger innocents?
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Nova,
Nice to see that there is a glimmer of recognition that what you've done is your responsibility. I don't think that trying to work the system to your best advantage is a bad thing, since you seem to have gotten a bit of a wake up. In fact, those options to reduce penalties are the mark of a society that recognizes that everyone can make mistakes. As serious as what you did is being treated by the authorities, think of the magnitude of such circumstances if there had been an injury or death. When they give you a break, don't waste it a couple of months from now when some dope in a nice car challenges your manhood. ( cause that is what street racing is really all about anyway. isn't it after all? )


Some of the "Shutup Dad" comments here are very funny. It doesn't matter if the person who is trying to give you advise is perfect. The fact that someone who has made mistakes in the past is handing out the advice doesn't make it invalid. Sometimes it is profitable to learn from someone who has been there and can save you the aggravation of making the same classic mistakes. Nobody is trying to tell you what to do. Nobody thinks that they are better than you. In the end, each decides for himself. But not to listen is just plain ignorant.
But remember, most advice is bad if simply obeyed. Listen, really listen. Get past that feeling that all young men have to reject what you perceive as authority. What people say in here has no emotional baggage associated with it. Nobody is trying to tell you what to do. Think about what they say and use you mind to apply it to your situation.



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They do give you your rights. It is posted on the form for your stuff that they pack away in the ziplock bag when they throw you in the tank.
They had no right to search your vehicle though.
Take note all Cali drivers, CHP CANNOT!!!! Search your vehicle for any reason for the next 6 months based on "reasonable suspicion". This is in order to keep from getting totally jacked by the ACLU for profiling.
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
Damn bro. that shit sucks ass.

Dunno though... if your drinking and driving... at least dont speed. Your askin for trouble right there.

As for the reading you your rights thing...

It is a total movie myth that police have to read you your rights before arresting you. It simply is not the case.

Ive been involved in multiple occasions where police never read me my rights... never allowed me access to a telephone... or a lawyer.

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Whats a GS15? The FBI guy drives it.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by moomaster_99:
They do give you your rights. It is posted on the form for your stuff that they pack away in the ziplock bag when they throw you in the tank.
They had no right to search your vehicle though.
Take note all Cali drivers, CHP CANNOT!!!! Search your vehicle for any reason for the next 6 months based on "reasonable suspicion". This is in order to keep from getting totally jacked by the ACLU for profiling.


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The officers had EVERY RIGHT to search his car. The car was being impounded, thus an "inventory search" is conducted. The inventory search is designed to remove the arrestee's property before the car is towed off to the pound. This way, if the arrestee later claims (or accuses) of anything stolen, there is a record of property removed or left in vehicle. ANYTHING illegal found...then it's your problem and any passengers problem if the "owner" of the illegal cargo found dosen't fess up.

As far as officers asking permission to search, they can...you can agree or refuse. As far as California, don't know enough on what's going on in California to comment.
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I love how everyone on this forum is an expert in every subject area. Amazing how many people here are "lawyers".

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Technique:
I love how everyone on this forum is an expert in every subject area. Amazing how many people here are "lawyers".

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Exactly my point!! that's why I posted my story here. To get expert advise.

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Technique:
I love how everyone on this forum is an expert in every subject area. Amazing how many people here are "lawyers".

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Umm...for the record, I am an expert.
Nova, you sound like you regret what happened. I, for one, hope you learned from the experience and avoid putting yourself in a situation like this again with better decisions. Good Luck!

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Alot of people are just saying to take the DWI like a man. Well I am sorry but anyone would be stupid to do that.

Having a DWI can affect you in many ways.... especially if you have to drive a company car. I won't claim to be a lawyer... but I know atleast in Louisiana... if you file the proper paper work... it will come out to I think a $500 fine... and 100+ hours of community service, license suspended for 30 days (temp license only to go to school and work)... but it doesn't show up on your record. That is the important thing.

Do whatever you can have it off your record.. if not you will really regret it.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Technique:
I love how everyone on this forum is an expert in every subject area. Amazing how many people here are "lawyers".

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Not a lawyer, but my two cents earlier was professioanl advice coming from a LEO with almost 8 years experience who deals with situations like his on a daily basis. No preaching, I just gave him advice on what to expect and why his car was searched. I am always happy to help with legal suggestions with anyone on this forum, so lighten up.......and go for a ride in your CL-S

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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by monkeymato:
Whats a GS15? The FBI guy drives it.

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GS15 is the rank. he is and on his car theres a sticker saying ACTIVE FBI MEMBER or something like that.

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Hey NOVA,

Sorry to hear bout that. I've been pulled over with the same shit before and reading your story brough back memories... BAD memories.

Only difference was that I was 21 already at the time. I went to some of my lawyer friends to see what you could do about that Miranda thing... but someone posted a reply before I could and they basically mirrored each other in their advice... so there was no need to double post.

Another thing, I did my offense in DC where they have a 0 tolerance law. That means you can't have any alcohol in your system, .01 and ur screwed. DC has a program that if it's ur first offense and u did not blow a above a .09 you are offered a proram in which u just go to alcohol class and they drop the charges.

So... good luck..... VA is a wierd state.

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I also think that VA has zero tolerance. My lil brother (18) has to go to court beacuse he blew a .01 on the breathalizer.

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Yup zero tollerance, learned that in my Driver improvement clinic saturady online. now I know. errrr.

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I think the legal limit if you are 21 or over in Virginia is .08. From what I have heard DC now has a zero tollerance even if you are over 21. That means if you go out to dinner in the city, have one drink, then get pulled over on the way home for anything you are fucked. I don't think the zero tollerance for over 21 is very fair.
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nova, dont feel bad....that sh*t happened to me to, only that i hit a car instead. my reward for being drunk and driving was a 12 hour traffic school(all 12 houra in one day!!), 50 community service hours and $500 fine, since it was my first offense!! good luck and next time time your friend to pick you up!! LOL, that way you dont have to worry
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hey nova,
hope everything works out. btw, that soju is some pretty good shit, huh.

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Old 04-25-2001, 11:58 AM
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by superdds:
hey nova,
hope everything works out. btw, that soju is some pretty good shit, huh.

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Man, lemon soju will F' you up. the reg soju is too strong and taste like sh@#. if you look at the ingredients it says, alcohol and distilted water . That's it just two stuff. 1 bottle of that and your gone. just knocks you out in like 30 min after u have it.

For all that haven't tried it go to a korean restruant and get some really cheap too. around 10~20. for a bottle that can get around 10 shots. if you do get the reg one go get some lemonade mix and pour it in until it taste like lemonade.

Oh and don't drink and drive.

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mmmm.... soju... but of course not if i'm gonna drive...


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Yeah, VA's zero tolerance is only for those under 21. Not to jump on the bandwagon or anything, but you have to get a lawyer and try your best on this one NOVA. Yes it sucks that you made a mistake, and yes you should have known better, but that is all in the past and now you need to worry about your personal future. Many companies will not hire given a DUI on your record. Good luck - I've been there and I learned my lesson. If you see a black cl-s on the way to work, wave, it's probably me (i have the 20 mile commute too). Good luck, matt


<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by beestea:
I think the legal limit if you are 21 or over in Virginia is .08. From what I have heard DC now has a zero tollerance even if you are over 21. That means if you go out to dinner in the city, have one drink, then get pulled over on the way home for anything you are fucked. I don't think the zero tollerance for over 21 is very fair. </font>


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