IMPORTANT:Gas and Cell phones
08-02-2003, 06:05 PM
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IMPORTANT:Gas and Cell phones
Subject: Shell gas message
The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in
which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations.
In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during
fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline
pump.
In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when
fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.
And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as
fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they
were fueling their car.
You should know that:
Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes.
Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release
enough energy to provide a spark for ignition.
Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling
lawn mowers, boat, etc.
Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other
materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e.
solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.
To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules of Safe Refueling
1) Turn off engine.
2) Don't smoke.
3) Don 't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off.
4) Don't reenter your vehicle during fueling.
Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to
try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity"
at gas pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.
His results were very surprising:
1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle
while the nozzle was still pumping gas, when finished and they went back
to pull the nozzle out the fire started, as a result of static.
3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished.
This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas.
6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when
connected with static charges.
7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle
was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some
resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the
customer.
8) Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after the
gas cap was removed and before fueling began.
Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it
with gas.
If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping,
make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you
ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be
discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.
As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with
several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware
of this danger. You can find out more information by going to
http://www.pei.org. Once here, click in the center of the screen where
it says "Stop Static".
The Shell Oil Company recently issued a warning after three incidents in
which mobile phones (cell phones) ignited fumes during fueling operations.
In the first case, the phone was placed on the car's trunk lid during
fueling; it rang and the ensuing fire destroyed the car and the gasoline
pump.
In the second, an individual suffered severe burns to their face when
fumes ignited as they answered a call while refueling their car.
And in the third, an individual suffered burns to the thigh and groin as
fumes ignited when the phone, which was in their pocket, rang while they
were fueling their car.
You should know that:
Mobile Phones can ignite fuel or fumes.
Mobile phones that light up when switched on or when they ring release
enough energy to provide a spark for ignition.
Mobile phones should not be used in filling stations, or when fueling
lawn mowers, boat, etc.
Mobile phones should not be used, or should be turned off, around other
materials that generate flammable or explosive fumes or dust, i.e.
solvents, chemicals, gases, grain dust, etc.
To sum it up, here are the: Four Rules of Safe Refueling
1) Turn off engine.
2) Don't smoke.
3) Don 't use your cell phone - leave it inside the vehicle or turn it off.
4) Don't reenter your vehicle during fueling.
Bob Renkes of Petroleum Equipment Institute is working on a campaign to
try and make people aware of fires as a result of "static electricity"
at gas pumps. His company has researched 150 cases of these fires.
His results were very surprising:
1) Out of 150 cases, almost all of them were women.
2) Almost all cases involved the person getting back in their vehicle
while the nozzle was still pumping gas, when finished and they went back
to pull the nozzle out the fire started, as a result of static.
3) Most had on rubber-soled shoes.
4) Most men never get back in their vehicle until completely finished.
This is why they are seldom involved in these types of fires.
5) Don't ever use cell phones when pumping gas.
6) It is the vapors that come out of the gas that cause the fire, when
connected with static charges.
7) There were 29 fires where the vehicle was reentered and the nozzle
was touched during refueling from a variety of makes and models. Some
resulting in extensive damage to the vehicle, to the station, and to the
customer.
8) Seventeen fires that occurred before, during or immediately after the
gas cap was removed and before fueling began.
Mr. Renkes stresses to NEVER get back into your vehicle while filling it
with gas.
If you absolutely HAVE to get in your vehicle while the gas is pumping,
make sure you get out, close the door TOUCHING THE METAL, before you
ever pull the nozzle out. This way the static from your body will be
discharged before you ever remove the nozzle.
As I mentioned earlier, The Petroleum Equipment Institute, along with
several other companies now, are really trying to make the public aware
of this danger. You can find out more information by going to
http://www.pei.org. Once here, click in the center of the screen where
it says "Stop Static".
08-02-2003, 06:17 PM
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I saw a news story on this exact thing. I actually saw footage of a guy that went up in flames while at the pump. Ever since I saw that I ALWAYS touch the metal pole (to discharge any static electricity) at the center of the isle at the pump.
I didn't know about the cell phone thing though.
Good thread.
I didn't know about the cell phone thing though.
Good thread.
08-02-2003, 06:42 PM
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Snopes to the rescue!
Cellular phones have touched off explosions at gas stations? FALSE.
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
Yes, static electricity can cause fires when fueling but cell phones haven't been a cause of any.
more on static electricity fires here:
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/static.asp
Cellular phones have touched off explosions at gas stations? FALSE.
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/gasvapor.asp
Though we've looked long and hard, we've haven't found news reports that confirm any of the three incidents described in the e-mail. Moreover, Shell denies having issued a warning of this nature:
We understand that there is an email, purportedly official Shell communication, circulating which describes various incidents that are supposed to have occured as a result of mobile phones ringing while at a retail station.
Please be advised that the email in question does NOT originate from Shell Malaysia and we are unable to confirm any of the incidents quoted.
We understand that there is an email, purportedly official Shell communication, circulating which describes various incidents that are supposed to have occured as a result of mobile phones ringing while at a retail station.
Please be advised that the email in question does NOT originate from Shell Malaysia and we are unable to confirm any of the incidents quoted.
Yes, static electricity can cause fires when fueling but cell phones haven't been a cause of any.
more on static electricity fires here:
http://www.snopes.com/autos/hazards/static.asp
08-02-2003, 09:29 PM
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You can smoke. A cigarette burns (when not being smoked) at approximately 800 degrees Fahrenheit. Gasoline ignites at approximately 900 degrees Fahrenheit.
I poured a shit ton of gasoline on my driveway, then tossed my cigarette in it. It didn't ignite like they do in Hollywood movies. (Oh, look at me. I'm gonna blow up this car with my cigarette... I'm such a bad-ass.)
I poured a shit ton of gasoline on my driveway, then tossed my cigarette in it. It didn't ignite like they do in Hollywood movies. (Oh, look at me. I'm gonna blow up this car with my cigarette... I'm such a bad-ass.)
08-02-2003, 10:00 PM
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Originally posted by Pure Adrenaline
You can smoke. A cigarette burns (when not being smoked) at approximately 800 degrees Fahrenheit. Gasoline ignites at approximately 900 degrees Fahrenheit.
I poured a shit ton of gasoline on my driveway, then tossed my cigarette in it. It didn't ignite like they do in Hollywood movies. (Oh, look at me. I'm gonna blow up this car with my cigarette... I'm such a bad-ass.)
You can smoke. A cigarette burns (when not being smoked) at approximately 800 degrees Fahrenheit. Gasoline ignites at approximately 900 degrees Fahrenheit.
I poured a shit ton of gasoline on my driveway, then tossed my cigarette in it. It didn't ignite like they do in Hollywood movies. (Oh, look at me. I'm gonna blow up this car with my cigarette... I'm such a bad-ass.)
Ummm, so you could take some nitroglycerin and smack it with a hammer. Just as long as you didn't hit it with 40 lbs of force you'd be ok.
Just keep tapping it dude! it'll be ok ...
It's the gas vapors which are flamable, not the gas.
...
So when the wind blows raising the temp. of the cigarette up. I sure hope I'm not at the same station filling up next to you. I'm sure you always go to indoor fillup stations though... LOL. Or live where the wind doesn't exist.
Ignorance...
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08-03-2003, 04:27 AM
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I'm actually surprised this isn't common knowledge. I remember a few years back when I was back home in PR I was with my brother putting fuel in his car when we see the guy that works at the station come out running and screaming like a mad man telling this lady to shut her cell phone off.
Shit scared me because the way he came out you'd think the explosion had already happened.
I think gas stations have known this for a while, I seem to remember gas pumps in NY having stickers with "no smoking, turn off engines, turn off cell phones".
Shit scared me because the way he came out you'd think the explosion had already happened.
I think gas stations have known this for a while, I seem to remember gas pumps in NY having stickers with "no smoking, turn off engines, turn off cell phones".
08-03-2003, 07:38 AM
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Originally posted by Pure Adrenaline
You can smoke. A cigarette burns (when not being smoked) at approximately 800 degrees Fahrenheit. Gasoline ignites at approximately 900 degrees Fahrenheit.
I poured a shit ton of gasoline on my driveway, then tossed my cigarette in it. It didn't ignite like they do in Hollywood movies. (Oh, look at me. I'm gonna blow up this car with my cigarette... I'm such a bad-ass.)
You can smoke. A cigarette burns (when not being smoked) at approximately 800 degrees Fahrenheit. Gasoline ignites at approximately 900 degrees Fahrenheit.
I poured a shit ton of gasoline on my driveway, then tossed my cigarette in it. It didn't ignite like they do in Hollywood movies. (Oh, look at me. I'm gonna blow up this car with my cigarette... I'm such a bad-ass.)
My phone and smokes stay in the car. Hell, I generally don't even answer my phone while driving. Hell I can't hear it ring over the exhaust and stereo.
08-03-2003, 07:53 AM
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Originally posted by SiGGy
Ummm, so you could take some nitroglycerin and smack it with a hammer. Just as long as you didn't hit it with 40 lbs of force you'd be ok.
Just keep tapping it dude! it'll be ok ...
Ummm, so you could take some nitroglycerin and smack it with a hammer. Just as long as you didn't hit it with 40 lbs of force you'd be ok.
Just keep tapping it dude! it'll be ok ...
08-03-2003, 08:50 AM
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there was a genius who had his engine running while pumping gas the other day. well im not sure if it was actually pumping gas but the nozzle was in the tank, and it was running. i got the hell out of there before finding out how likely gas is to ignite with the engine still running, but since the gas station is still there i guess nothing happened, but still 
08-03-2003, 08:58 AM
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Originally posted by Davediego
there was a genius who had his engine running while pumping gas the other day. well im not sure if it was actually pumping gas but the nozzle was in the tank, and it was running. i got the hell out of there before finding out how likely gas is to ignite with the engine still running, but since the gas station is still there i guess nothing happened, but still
there was a genius who had his engine running while pumping gas the other day. well im not sure if it was actually pumping gas but the nozzle was in the tank, and it was running. i got the hell out of there before finding out how likely gas is to ignite with the engine still running, but since the gas station is still there i guess nothing happened, but still
Most of the gas station fires that I've seen happen when static electricity ignites the vapors around the car's gas tank when filling up, the owner sets off a spark by touching the pump handle. I've never heard of a car's engine running setting a station afire, but I suppose if it backfired, etc. it could happen.
Also ringing CDMA cellphones don't blow up gas stations, that's a false rumor. Don't know about the GSM phones.
08-03-2003, 11:09 AM
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Originally posted by Davediego
there was a genius who had his engine running while pumping gas the other day. well im not sure if it was actually pumping gas but the nozzle was in the tank, and it was running. i got the hell out of there before finding out how likely gas is to ignite with the engine still running, but since the gas station is still there i guess nothing happened, but still
there was a genius who had his engine running while pumping gas the other day. well im not sure if it was actually pumping gas but the nozzle was in the tank, and it was running. i got the hell out of there before finding out how likely gas is to ignite with the engine still running, but since the gas station is still there i guess nothing happened, but still
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i always took the big sign that said "TURN OFF ENGINE BEFORE PUMPING GAS" seriously, guess its another liability thing to prevent lawsuits if its so common? 
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