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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 11:37 PM
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If the 2003 had 295HP with the same J32A2, can we...

canwe get the bolt on mod that contributed to the gain of power?...

So to speak, we could refit the the 01' with the 03' power adding part. right?
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Old Dec 17, 2001 | 11:43 PM
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2 comments --

#1 I hope you are right cause my 2003 6MT is on order
#2 Wouldn't it depend on what change was done to achieve the gain? Also - do you think Acura would make it avail or other aftermarket?

On #2 ... speculation was that the gain was the same as what the Mystery Mod 2 is supposed to do.

If the 6MT materializes with 295 I am gonna live in my new car ! (kahn_man said his friend that did the clutch for the car said Acura wanted them to make a clutch for a 295HP so .....)
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 01:38 AM
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Thereotically it seems possible, but following that logic, you would have to assume that there was a feasible way to make the T/CL-Ps achieve the same power as the type-S (without crossover mods like headers, pulleys, etc.) since they also share the same engine.

And since no non-Type-S has been able do this without using those types of mods, it obviously must be very difficult to do (ie compression ratios, etc.)
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 08:02 AM
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Count on the 290hp.
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 08:55 AM
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Originally posted by JZ
Count on the 290hp.
Yeah? You have a pretty reliable source it seems?
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 09:36 AM
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this is unbelievable ....295HP honda is sweet!!!!! for 30K!!!!
nsx is 90K and is more than double the price.
if cl-s 6MT is 290 or 295 HP, then i will kick my dreams of the Evo7 goodbye!!

i'd rather have luxury and power than pure raw power
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 12:48 PM
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Originally posted by provench


Yeah? You have a pretty reliable source it seems?
My mechanic told me this and he's yet to lie to me and I was talking to three sales reps while I was getting my exhaust put on and they all mentioned that it was going to have 290HP without me saying a word.

I would bet a dollar on it!
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 01:06 PM
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JZ, did he say what the torque would be?
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 01:19 PM
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Well if the car currently generates 260hp (SAE NET ?)
at the crank & the Comptech Headers have dynoed +25hp
above 5000rpms this seems possible.

Hopefully the closer gearing in the 6spd will make full use of
that extra peak power because 4th & 5th in the auto
seems too friggin tall to really exploit it!
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 01:24 PM
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JZ, did he say what the torque would be?
Hey Mike. No, they didn't say and I didn't think to ask even though that is the most important part of the equation at this point. Most people don't pay attention to torque numbers anyways (especially salesguys)--although these guys were definately more knowledgable about their product and the aftermarket mods etc than most salesmen.

I can't wait to see dynos of this baby. I'll bet that the dynos will look similar to the ones we have generated already without a significant addition of low end torque. As mentioned previously, the addition of a close ratio 6 speed will reduce our lack of torque problems significantly.
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 01:29 PM
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Wow - LA Auto Show can't get here soon enough ... hoping for 290HP, maybe small torque bump, front and backend like a TL-S, body kit, close ratio 6MT, tighter suspension (sways, whatever), and slightly wider tires. If they do all this ... these things will fly off the Acura parking lot !!
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 05:05 PM
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Torque Repost

Originally posted by Mike
JZ, did he say what the torque would be?
This is a repost of when I asked my clutch buddy what the torque was; he said it is still 232...

"Just because torque doesn't increase doesn't mean HP stays the same, too. HP is torque times engine speed (with some unit conversions). Therefore if the torque peak stays the same but occurs 300RPM (or 500, 800, 1000, whatever) higher, then the peak HP increases without a peak torque increase.

I'd dig more, but I don't have an old torque and HP curve to compare to the new one (if we even have a new one). I got the torque number from our heat stress and torque safety factor calculation which is the spreadsheet that determines the basic aspect of a clutch...how much load it must have to clamp the engine to transmit full torque, therefore the torque number there HAS to be correct."
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 05:06 PM
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Kahn Man - any more scoop for us?
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 06:25 PM
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Originally posted by provench
Kahn Man - any more scoop for us?
Nothin' on Acuras. But if you want to know about Cummins engines, I am a goldmine...... Yeah, I couldn't give two shits either!
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Old Dec 18, 2001 | 09:12 PM
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i think i will just stay on my 260 hp and auto cls.
no plan to mod or trade it in the future..
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