Coming home the other night, there was a tinted out black 2003-2004 Chevy Impala with a stock wing on the rear. He kept coming up next to me but I really wasn't in the mood.

After about 5-10 minutes of this I finally bit and we took off from around 70 up to 100-105. I had him up to about 90 then he just walked on me after that! He was ahead by about 1 full car lenth and I couldnt catch up so I shut it down.

After some research I see that the stock impala's only have 200hp but the SS model is supercharged and pushing 240hp. I am guessing either:

A. I ran into an SS model

or

B. Impala's have great power up top?

Also I kept it in D5 the whole time so that probably killed me a little also.

Oh well...you win some you lose some.

 

There are plenty of mods available for the supercharged 3.8L. My guess is he was highly modded.

 

I hate impalas! I think even stock the SS should give the CL-P a run for its money. possibly had a few mods in it.

 

Once the supercharger is installed it isn't that hard to replace a pulley and really pack on the HP

 

yea sure talk about it like you know jerk







i hate you fi fukers

 

And you have an auto and a CL-P

 

And?

I could easily take the stock 200hp Impala but not if it was supercharged.

Stock impala 3.4 liter engine does 0-60 in 8-9 secs.
Supercharged Impala in the high 0-60 in the 6's.

vs.

Stock CL-P 0-60 6.9-7.2


This is why I am thinking he was blown...

 

Did it have any other visual cues? The SS comes with badges, a modest body kit, and a distinctive spoiler.

The M80 supercharger is pretty amazing. My buddy's '00 GTP (same engine) with a few mods ran mid-12's. Intake, cams, pulleys, exhaust, minor suspension, tires, etc. Of course, he broke the tranny (the half-shaft sucks ass, and the tranny can't take the power well), so he had it reinforced, too. I drove it one time to the transmission shop, and even with a cracked transmission casing (yeah, I know, dumb, but it was gonna be replaced anyway under warranty, and we didn't care), I laid the SMACK down a Vette Grand Sport. This old guy was your typical Dale Earnhardt fan. The mustache, leather jacket, shades, looking like a total bad-ass driving a GS. I pulled up next to him, looked over, and he gassed it a bit, then passed me and got in front. I was thinking, "oh, man, I'm so tempted, but it's Mike's car."

At that precise moment, my cell phone went off. It was Mike. "What's up?" "Rob, I know you want to race that Vette. You have to. Go for it."

With a silly grin on my face, I gave pursuit, and long story short, I dusted the guy. He was definitely modded, too. At least some suspension work, exhaust, wheels (so probably tires, too), etc, etc.



Anyway, I digressed a bit, but the point is that the 3.8L supercharged engine is no joke when modded. Even stock, it puts out about 285 lb/ft of torque, if I remember correctly. Hell, I even see guys running Bonnevilles (same powertrain) at the track, and making consistent low-13 to 12-second runs. It's amazing. They are the definition of a sleeper family sedan. You can haul around 5 people if you have to, but if need be, you can lay the smack down on a lot of hot-shot cars on the road. The J32A2 is not quite up to par with that, although it is an amazing powertrain.

 

If the same mods were available for the J32A2 as are available for those cars I'm sure it would be right up there with it. There is a much larger market for those cars as they are more popular. The top end of the J32A2 can't be matched by any V6 from Detroit if you ask me. Save the Grand National, but I can't think of anything from Detroit that is a smooth and has the top-end like our cars do.

 

Holy Torque!

Compared to engines like the 270-horsepower, 3.5-liter, normally aspirated V-6 in the Acura TL or any of the various versions of Nissan's VQ35 family of 3.5-liter V-6s, the supercharged 3800's 240 horsepower seems very modest. However the 3800 grunts out 280 lb-ft of peak torque while the engine in the TL can only muster 238. And while the Chevy's torque production tops out at just 3600 rpm, the Acura needs to spin all the way to 5000 rpm to reach its less fulsome summit. Sure, the blown 3800 doesn't leap for its modest 6000-rpm redline like the import competition, but it doesn't need to and it's relaxed in day-to-day use. Ultimately the supercharged 3800 does a pretty good imitation of a good-running, mid-Nineties, GM small-block V-8 - something like the 260-horsepower, 5.7-liter, LT1 V-8 installed in that era's Impala SS. And that ain't no bad thing.

Backing up the 3800 is GM's nearly-as-familiar 4T65-E four-speed automatic transaxle. Sure a lot of the competition has moved on to five-speed automatics, but this transmission shifts confidently and, considering the engine's low-end talents, the fifth cog just isn't missed. A zero to 60 mph clocking just below 7.0 seconds (Motor Trend's guess is 6.8 seconds), seems about right.

Beyond that, the gearing is so conservative that the engine turns less than 2000 rpm at 70 mph. That results in EPA fuel mileage numbers of 18 in the city and 28 on the highway and, for a 3606-pound car, that ain't bad.

http://www.bullz-eye.com/carreviews/...evy_impala.htm

 

Um, i'd expect that much torque. Not only does it have 600cc's more displacement than the J32A2, it has a large (M80) supercharger!

 

 

Isn't the topend of the supercharged 3.8 the same as in a GN? I thought it was only the source of forced induction (supercharger vs. turbo) that separated the two.

When did the TL get a 3.5L engine?

 

Troll www.clubgp.com and you'll see what some of the SC 3800 Series II motors can do for these mid sized GM family sedans.

Speedy, to answer your first question yes and no .

 

These are some really impressive times for a fwd v6, even for a blown one. http://www.clubgp.com/cgi-asp/qtrmil...xtfunc=&page=1

 

Yeah, I wasnt a believer until I saw a Regal GS pull off a 12 second run at Etown WITHOUT nitrous. With the exception of a missing headlight (intake purposes), it was a TOTAL sleeper.

 

Take a look at all the mods though. Built transmissions with 3200+ rpm stall speed. That'll get you out of the hole ridiculously fast!

 

The 200hp is the L36 - 3.8 L
The 240hp is the L67 - 3.8 L as well

The supergcharger is an Eaton M90. There is only one cam. The halfshafts are not the weak link in the drivetrain. The open differential gets those honors.

Two different motors. Quite a few differences between the two.



Just clearing up some misinformation.

 

Wow, just looked at that site... Those are some awesome 60' times. 1.5's are simply amazing on a FWD car.

 

Hmm, really? I'll ask my buddy again. I could've sworn he said M80. Same thing on the drivetrain. But I should add that he had a Quaife LSD put in, and I'm pretty sure he said it was the half shafts that gave afterwards.

 

Pure Adrenaline you sure that vette was a GS. Those things were so limited in number that some dealers dont even know of their existence. The car also came with either an lt5 or LT6 outta the ZR-1 Vette which had 405 horses and ran mid-high 12's easily. But the thing was a beast on the highway. If you ran one and beat it the way you said, then that is one hell of a gtp.

 

Nice Death! "You win some you lose some". It's all good bro'.

 

Yeah, I'm pretty sure it was a Grand Sport. If had the visual cues, and if it was a regular C4 made to look like the GS, the results would have been worse.

 

So amazing it isn't even made.

I beleive you meant the M90 blower.

 

M90 it is.