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Old 05-15-2003 | 11:06 PM
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Hypothetical...2003 CLS

Had a heated discussion with my bro' a former 1985 Mustang Convertible GT 5.0 owner. Which is faster. All of the specs say that the CL-S would rape the 85 GT but he thinks that maybe ratings have changed or something. Anyone?
Old 05-15-2003 | 11:08 PM
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I want to add that 1985 was the last carborated Mustang. Not FI.
Old 05-15-2003 | 11:13 PM
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the mustang would be assimilated. [/borg]
Old 05-15-2003 | 11:20 PM
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Re: Hypothetical...2003 CLS

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Had a heated discussion with my bro' a former 1985 Mustang Convertible GT 5.0 owner. Which is faster. All of the specs say that the CL-S would rape the 85 GT but he thinks that maybe ratings have changed or something. Anyone?
that car runs about a 16 second 1/4
Old 05-15-2003 | 11:22 PM
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I went up against one of those square body (don't know what year) 5.0 mustang's before I got headers.

He fu*ked me up good! Seriously his launch was so hard that he almost lost control of the tail end. He was already like a car ahead of me on launch. When he was still gaining when I got into VTEC land I knew it was a lost cause.

Of course he coulda had crazy mods... who knows.
Old 05-15-2003 | 11:32 PM
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Originally posted by beestea
I went up against one of those square body (don't know what year) 5.0 mustang's before I got headers.

He fu*ked me up good! Seriously his launch was so hard that he almost lost control of the tail end. He was already like a car ahead of me on launch. When he was still gaining when I got into VTEC land I knew it was a lost cause.

Of course he coulda had crazy mods... who knows.
The idea of mods drives my bother mad. He looks at the CL-S as a nice SEDAN since it is the same as the TL. I can't really argue that point since the times on the TL-S sedan are @$$ kicking for the 1985 'stang too...

I looked up all of the Mustang times and for it's day it was the best. There are Si Civics faster now....no?
Old 05-15-2003 | 11:36 PM
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Originally posted by beestea
I went up against one of those square body (don't know what year) 5.0 mustang's before I got headers.

He fu*ked me up good! Seriously his launch was so hard that he almost lost control of the tail end. He was already like a car ahead of me on launch. When he was still gaining when I got into VTEC land I knew it was a lost cause.

Of course he coulda had crazy mods... who knows.
I had a roomate that was a Mustang addict. He "had" (long story) to sell his car but he was pushing about 300hp at the rw dyno. I am NOT saying you can't mod a 'stang. I think that I left some spine in that seat....
Old 05-16-2003 | 12:15 AM
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An 85 mustang GT convert is a slow ass POS! They didn't become fast till 86 when they they got the fuel injection. In 87, they got the better looking body. With a $1000 in mods, one of those will burn a CL-S...
$500 Exhaust
$500 150HP Nitrous

Easily in the 13's
Old 05-16-2003 | 12:23 AM
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But the toque is there...why doesn't the 5.0 walk us if they geared it right?
Old 05-16-2003 | 12:32 AM
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But the toque is there...why doesn't the 5.0 walk us if they geared it right?
because peak numbers dont mean nearly as much as the duration
Old 05-16-2003 | 01:02 AM
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Thanks guys. I did the research and all of this is just gonning to make him hate more....
i wish he just wanted to play around with the CLS

Keep bringing it on....
Old 05-16-2003 | 06:13 AM
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My mild mod 94 GT (5.0 5 speed) has ran a best of 14.23 @ 98.66 mph at Norwalk, which is a kickass track.

Back before I did gears I was running 14.9 @ 94mph, but that was at ultra crappy Lapeer Dragway.

A stock 94/95 GT 5 speed will run low 15's @ ~93-94mph, and add about the regular 4-5 tenths for an autotragic.

Just a little FYI also, the current (99+) 4.6L GT's run low 14's bone stock in coupe 5 speed trim, and I have a friend running 13.8's @ 100mph with only a catback and shiftkit on his AOD 01 GT coupe.

I believe the 86 has E6 heads, not the HO E7 heads, which are better than the E6, but still ultra crappy.

Be careful though, a heads/cam/intake (not cai, actual plenum intake) and decent tires on a fox body Mustang (79-93) will run 12's with a decent driver.
Old 05-16-2003 | 10:47 AM
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The specs for even a brand new mustang (non-cobra) is 260hp @ 3250lbs. Mustang has the advantage of less weight and RWD, which helps w/ 1/4 mile times. This is for a NEW 'stang.

The 85's were dogs compared to the newer 'stangs.

Are we comparing Stock to stock, modded to modded, stock to modded....

I still have my 4.6L V8
Old 05-16-2003 | 02:24 PM
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Re: Hypothetical...2003 CLS

Originally posted by blackmagiCL_S
Had a heated discussion with my bro' a former 1985 Mustang Convertible GT 5.0 owner. Which is faster. All of the specs say that the CL-S would rape the 85 GT but he thinks that maybe ratings have changed or something. Anyone?
Heated discussion...hahahahaha. Your bro hates on our cars like crazy, and just won't listen to reason. Ahhh...it's all fun and games...til his slow-ass mustang is my CL-S' bitch!! I wish we could get someone with a stock '85 GT to run, just to prove to him once and for all.
Old 05-16-2003 | 02:33 PM
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Originally posted by blackmagiCL_S
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I looked up all of the Mustang times and for it's day it was the best. There are Si Civics faster now....no?

there are corollas that are faster.



The thing is, there just aren't many stock stangs laying around, mods are dirt cheap and abundant so there are fast stangs all over the place.
Old 05-16-2003 | 04:31 PM
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True enough. They have a huge mod market and a ton of potential in that engine.
Old 05-23-2003 | 01:08 AM
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15.4 for a 85 mustang gt 5spd
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