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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 08:55 PM
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how much would a s/c add?

With my current mods i'm at 229hp... what would I be look at for gains if I went with the comptech supercharger?
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 09:18 PM
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Would depend on your timming,how much fuel your dumping,and pulley diameter.
No idea of numbers but,just take a shot in the dark 35-55 whp
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Old Sep 12, 2010 | 10:02 PM
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you'll probably have around 265-270 without a tune
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:16 AM
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458whp, kicking ass and taking names.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:22 AM
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I think Comptech was quoting 40whp. Were they not?

Or you can just get some sand paper and hand port and polish your intake runners like richardparker did and get 35 hp.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:26 AM
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You can't just take the number Comptech posted and add it to his current numbers, you have to factor in the kind of mods he has and what each one does.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:37 AM
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You can't just take the number Comptech posted and add it to his current numbers, you have to factor in the kind of mods he has and what each one does.
But I don't think his PR2 plenums will leave room for the SC shaft. I'm not a 100% sure though. Not that those make that big of a difference in the HP.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:43 AM
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But I don't think his PR2 plenums will leave room for the SC shaft. I'm not a 100% sure though. Not that those make that big of a difference in the HP.
You might be right. I've also never seen those two things in one engine bay at the same time, so that is probably true.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 01:09 AM
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The plenums will most likely take away from the power numbers.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 01:52 AM
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Right..I think? cause the SC would have to fill a larger chamber before it could increase the pressure. Seems logical.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 04:14 AM
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Originally Posted by CH46ESeaKnight
I think Comptech was quoting 40whp. Were they not?

Or you can just get some sand paper and hand port and polish your intake runners like richardparker did and get 35 hp.

Proof it.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 06:32 AM
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what!!! port and polish got how much on our motor!!!!???

holy canoli!

if I can get another 20-30WHP off the XLR8 cat. full custom 2.75 exhaust, and port and polished runners and manifold.. I would be more than happy.

I just NEED to see 250 WHP that's my goal gentlemen (i want in whp what the car made to the flywheel)

So I do not even have to port/polish the head? just runners and manifold??

and this will get me like 15 HP you guys are saying?

oh my fingers are crossed noww


is there a thread on this topic or DIY... pretty please (i think I just found my winter project!!)

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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:01 AM
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actually p2r has ported runners for sale on their site.. and I am sure they do it the best outta anywhere we know.

So what if I buy these I should see a 10hp gain for sure? no head work, no manifold porting or tb work??

point me in the right direction please n thankyou
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:34 AM
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if you're going to start port/polish, you need to do from the throttle body to the runners...that would be the proper way to do it. Keep the easy flow going all the way. It would be cheaper to find a local place.

Why not just bite the bullet and stoke the motor. Might as well the way you're going. You'll always want more, so you might as well spend ur $ on something big. You'll end up spending almost as much on these little things.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:37 AM
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Originally Posted by CL-S progression 01
actually p2r has ported runners for sale on their site.. and I am sure they do it the best outta anywhere we know.

So what if I buy these I should see a 10hp gain for sure? no head work, no manifold porting or tb work??

point me in the right direction please n thankyou
p2r does not sell those anymore because honda raised the price on the lower runners new from them. You can still send parts to p2r to get ported tho. To really get improvements from porting you would have to port the heads also.

Personally I am gonna just port my tb for now and put my p2r plenums on. I gave up on getting a s/c.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:43 AM
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I looked on their web site and it's still listed.. along with many others. 389.99 is the price

yea.. I am all power mod for the most part.
1st Injen CAI
2nd Option UD pulley
3rd P2R plenums
4th tb spacer
5th CT headers

I think you'll like those plenums. U can just feel the motor is more beastly.. especially down low much more steady tq. and top end is a tad better too.

it's not like an intake when u feel the gain at one point. the gain is all the time so it's hard to tell how much it gave you per se unless you did a b4 and after dyno. Only 2 ppl have to my knowledge. P2R and one other member on here
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:59 AM
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damn they just emailed me back and said they no longer offer it :-( shyt.

gonna see if they can find a used set and PnP them.
I don't wanna take the runners off and send it to florida and then get them mailed back to canada. that'll be a huge inconvenience and still cost just as much probably.

we get dooped here in canada for almost everything when it comes to automotive performance.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:03 AM
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You may wanna check the BM. I think I saw power plenums for sale on there. Could have been flea bay though. Good luck
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:40 AM
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Originally Posted by CH46ESeaKnight
I think Comptech was quoting 40whp. Were they not?

Or you can just get some sand paper and hand port and polish your intake runners like richardparker did and get 35 hp.
trying to trump up some old s!@# :thumbsdow
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:23 AM
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Just hook up a 50 shot. Ull love it. But a sc adds about 60-80. Depending on mods and tune. Not worth the money. Spend $800 for a zex system and u can see those numbers and some
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:44 AM
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I did a before and after dyno and I gained 55whp. That was using the HBP though w/ the IMRC disconnected, no tune
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 09:50 AM
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I never got mine tuned when I had my sc on. But I plan on doing a before and after when I put it back on.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:43 AM
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Just hook up a 50 shot. Ull love it. But a sc adds about 60-80. Depending on mods and tune. Not worth the money. Spend $800 for a zex system and u can see those numbers and some
nitrous is illegal in Canada except for on the track.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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It is everywhere I thought.
If the line is disconected from the bottle when and if you get pulled over then your all good, no?
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:54 AM
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Originally Posted by CL-S progression 01
damn they just emailed me back and said they no longer offer it :-( shyt.

gonna see if they can find a used set and PnP them.
I don't wanna take the runners off and send it to florida and then get them mailed back to canada. that'll be a huge inconvenience and still cost just as much probably.

we get dooped here in canada for almost everything when it comes to automotive performance.

You don't have to send them to florida, I'm sure you can find a local shop that could do it just fine.
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Originally Posted by StreetKA
Proof it.
Did you mean "prove it"?

CT Engineering has developed a supercharger kit for the TL/CL and Accord that increases power by 40 to 60 horsepower at the wheels depending on the model of car. The supercharger uses a “Eaton-type” design that provides consistent boost and compresses the intake charge efficiently with a minimal increase in the intake air temperature. This combination provides almost instant boost that increases low and midrange torque for excellent throttle response.

http://www.ct-engineering.com/store/cls-sc.html

I said I thought, they claimed 40whp. I did not walk up in here and throw my fist down and say its 40whp.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 10:58 AM
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I got pulled over with both bottle hooked up and open. Cop searched my car and impounded it bc I got arrested for, well I'm sure most ppl know why and my situation. But never said anything about the bottles. But yes, afaik, in illinois if ur bottles are closed ur fine. Elsewhere it might be diff. But u can always hide ur bottle
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It is everywhere I thought.
If the line is disconected from the bottle when and if you get pulled over then your all good, no?
Not all states have banned it. Here is Mississippi they just did. Friend of mine told me a high speed chase involving a T/A and a cop that tried to keep up and killed himself, was to thank for that.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 11:02 AM
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Hey progression I was just joking about the 35hp. I was busting Parkers balls. You might get 10 hp and that i even kinda doubt. Maybe if you did the throttle body, intake, runners, and heads, you might get 20whp.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 11:25 AM
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I'm running at 2.72 psi with meth injection and making 309hp at the hubs, so 290-300whp give or take.
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I'm running at 2.72 psi with meth injection and making 309hp at the hubs, so 290-300whp give or take.
What are you tuned on?

And P2R runners are severely overpriced. Im glad he no longer carries them, saves some people from wasting money. Find a local place and have EVERYTHING ported. TB, manifold, runners and heads. If you just do a few pieces thats not going to gain much. Think of it as your exhaust. It only flows as well as the least efficient part.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 12:08 PM
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^agree. Get the whole deal done or don't do it at all
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 02:19 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
458whp, kicking ass and taking names.
Over looked this,what's under the hood now?
And don't say
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 03:24 PM
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In the case of richardparker, he has a CLP & would likely get more of out some mods then the already opened up motor of a CLS.

I'm at 252WHP with my mods but I have not dyno'd since getting the XLR8 cat & my light wheels. Maybe I will.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 05:15 PM
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so you got dyno'd 252 WHP with XS headers, Mugen cooling mods, thermo spacers, P2R Plenums and Light crank pulley?

thats pretty impressive and what i am looking for, do you have dyno sheet?

still waiting for civicdrivr to go to strip and give me some times
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:05 PM
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yea I think I am gonna get everything done including the heads..

I'm gonna start saving guys, and head down there in the winter. get the tb, manifold, runners, and heads fully done, along with a custom 3 inch exhaust.


I'm going for broke here guys :-) (maybe I am wrong) but it might just end up being the most beastly n/a, non tuned, true j32a2 we've seen in an auto cl yet.

I wanna see what the max is.. :-)
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:36 PM
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dont do 3 inch exhaust if your not boosted. you will actually lose power.
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 07:47 PM
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Originally Posted by p.diddy
dont do 3 inch exhaust if your not boosted. you will actually lose power.
x4 although your top end would be nice....when you eventually got there...
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Old Sep 13, 2010 | 08:15 PM
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The SC's story is not all told in the peak WHP gain. The SC gives usable horsepower across the whole RPM range (think area under the curve).

There are cheaper alternatives if all you're going for is peak HP - Nitrous being one of those. Great for straight line full throttle performance but not so usable on the track or driving agressively through the mountains.

As with anything, start with what you're trying to accomplish and find the most efficinent way to get there.
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do 2.5 and if u want u can add a electric cut out .
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