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Old 05-02-2004, 09:37 AM
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Honda ATF still the choice?

I'm gonna do my first DIY tranny flush, and wanna know if Honda ATF is still the way to go.

Amsoil / Redline / Mobil 1 still aren't recommended as better options?

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A little off topic but do our tranny's have a drain plug like the oil pan or do we have to drop the whole pan?
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I would go with Redline synthetic ATF its what I'm running as well as many others. It is reccomended by comptech for their supercharger.

It is quite expensive though at around $6-7 a quart. If you went this route I would reccomend getting a tranny flush at the same time to get all the old non-synthetic tranny fluid out.
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I have changed my tranny fliud 3 times with redline high temp oil and no problems,
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My Cl has Amsoil in it and it is ok for our cars,, 15k no problems..
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since Honda is paying for the new tranny if it goes, i run their fluid- no questions then. and flint they do have a drain plug.
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If I went with one of the synthetics -- Amsoil or Redline, would it be OK to flush it a few times with cheaper ATF? I'd hate to spend $7 / quart, and drain 6 quarts just flushing.
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Oh yeah, where's the cheapest place to get quarts of Redline?
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So is there a drain plug or do we have to drop the pan to do the fluid change?
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Originally posted by jet-tek
and flint they do have a drain plug.
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I would stick to the Honda ATF (automatic Transmission Failure)
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changing the ATF will help the tranny 10X!.

I paid $9.99 for 3 Qrts of Z1 ATF I did the drain and refill myself ( at 51k miles and last time at 45kmiles , it took me just 10 mins.. The tranny felt solid and the shifts are super smooth.

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Is Honda Z1 ATF be purchased only at dealers? I'll probably just replace it frequently with the Honda stuff for now.
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Originally posted by DeezNutz
Is Honda Z1 ATF be purchased only at dealers? I'll probably just replace it frequently with the Honda stuff for now.
Good choice Mr. Nutz
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Originally posted by flint
So is there a drain plug or do we have to drop the pan to do the fluid change?

Drain Plug.


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I change my tranny fluid with Honda Z1, buy it at a Honda dealer (cheaper), keep all reciepts.

The dealer did not ask about required maintainance when the tranny was replaced at 55k.

I'll stick with Honda's fluid, never know how generous Acura will be with transmissions in 3-4 years. Plus if the transmissions are inheritly defective, synthetic fluid won’t fix it.


I just turned 56k and plan on doing a change. I'm sure there is some break-in junk in the new tranny after 1k.


Don’t forget, get a new crush washer for the transmission drain plug. Make sure they don’t give you an oil drain washer, it is too small. The tranny washer has an inner diameter about the size of a nickel. You’ll need a long extension to reach the tranny fill plug and a long funnel, or one with a hose.
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OK, so a couple final questions:

1) does exactly 3 qts fill back up to the top notch on the dipstick? i didn't see in the manual where it defined the amount.

2) would it drain properly if the front was jacked up a little to get under there?

thx
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I remember reading somewhere on here that Honda gets its oil from Mobil 1. Then they just slap thier label on it.
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Originally posted by DeezNutz
OK, so a couple final questions:

1) does exactly 3 qts fill back up to the top notch on the dipstick? i didn't see in the manual where it defined the amount.

2) would it drain properly if the front was jacked up a little to get under there?

thx
It will take 2 3/4 qts to fill, if you just drain from the drain plug.
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Honda ATF-Z1 is still my #1 choice.
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Amzoil ATF is the choice in my book for Honda/Acura. Stick with a Z-1 rated fluid. Honda and Amzoil are the only ones that I know of that claim that specification. Of the two, Synthetic Amzoil is superior to the Honda fluid in my book. Flush does make a difference.
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Originally posted by sgmotoring
It will take 2 3/4 qts to fill, if you just drain from the drain plug.
Is the car level or on ramps?

The helms manual says 2.9 qts.

When I use ramps, 3 quarts is always a bit much.




From now on, when I drain the fluid in the new transmission, I'm sending a sample to Blackstone. If the new tranny is going to fail prematurely, I want to know. I'm not going to be outside the 7/100 warrany. I'll take the deprecation buying a new vehicle over the cost of buying a new defective tranny.
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