CLean

I know I know this is about the millionth tire question, but....

I have stock 03 wheels and I am looking for new tires. Here is what you have to work with:

- Dont plan on lowering the car
- Only use in nice weather
- Would like a great WEARING tire that is good in the rain to!
- Dont need an awsome handling tire in the dry, just ok will do
- Priced on the lower to mid end of the scale. 60 dollar tires scare me just as much as 250 dollar tires do. (around 110 maybe?)

I had the Falken Azenis ST-115's. And the reviews were good, but I felt they sucked. SCARY in the rain over 65 mph.. And even my CL-P chirped when pulling out. The stock tires didnt even do that. So I come to you all.

I have read all the posts about tires and what nots, but now I am more confused. Even on what size to get. I wanted a little bit taller and a little wider since I am not going to lower the car. 225/50 seemed what I wanted. But you all say to go 235/45. I think that on the stock wheel the tire will look to wide.

So tell me what you recommend for a good wearing all weather tire at a good price. And what size? IMOP, the stock tire size looks to small for the size of the car. That is why I wanted to go with 225/50 to fill it up a lil. Yes, a 235/45 may be wider, but I dont need wider. Just a little bit higher maybe.

if you have any recomendations, I would appreciate it.

Thanks again all...

oh and YuppieCL, up for a drink tonight since its gonna snow

Sarlacc

Bridgestone Potenza RE750

Fabvsix

Bridgestone S03's RULE in the rain !
Nuff said !

fuzzy02CLS

iTrader: (2)

You have a CLP? Do you have 16's or 17's?

Fabvsix

What I have:

Sarlacc

Reason I mentioned RE750 over teh S-03

RE750 can be had for about 100-120 a tire. They have a longer tread life.

S0-3 are like 130-150. More sticky, more track oriented, less tread life. Little noisy near mid tread life.

If you dont mind replacing your tires more often, by all means the S-03s, they are no doubt amazing. But the 750s are more of an "everyday" version of the S-03, well, thats how i see it.

[DWI]

I've had a pair of both (on the 750's at the moment) and I love them both, you'll get more tread life out of the 750s, more grip out of the SO-3s (unless you run em to strings like I did, then you'll have some serious fun) Honestly they are both great tires the 750s are mor civil but with a car that weights this much it will never e great.

CLean

I have a CL-P. Stock 16's have snow tires on them and I just picked up a set of 03 S wheels.

But what size?? Can someone post a pic of their 235/45/17's close up and kinda standing up looking down at them? I wanna see if they buldge the wheel at all.

Thanks

CLASSYCLS

go with the Continental Contiextreme Contacts (215/50ZR17) great all round tire and in your price range!!

Thanks CLean, 03's are arriving next week!

CLean

You know where the best place to get them?

CLean

Yeah, I think the Conti's are going to work for me. Tirerack wants 30 bucks to ship them. Anyone know a better place to get them? Conti's site says that Sams Club carries Conti's. Maybe Ill check there since I can put them on myself..

EricL

If it came down to the RE-750, they cost $146 each at Tire Rack for a 225/45-17.

The 225/45-17 will fit with the speedo reading a bit off.

The 235/45-17 will be a bit tight on the stock wheel and “can” make for aligment hassles with certain types of machines (At least this is the case with the Toyo T1S and certain other tires with “thick” rim protectors and solid casings.)

A Goodyear F1 GS-D3 in XL rated (load rated at 94) costs $160 from Tire Rack and the F1 GS-D3 with the same 91 load rating that the RE-750 has costs $157. There is a special going on with a $50 rebate/cash card with a purchase of 4 tires:

"When you purchase four (4) qualifying Goodyear tires you will qualify for either a $25 or a $50 cash card from Goodyear depending on the tires you purchase. Tires must be purchased between December 26, 2003 and January 17, 2004."

Check the reviews and tests out on the tire.

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/Compar...year&x=17&y=11


One more option to consider.

The Goodyears were rated #1 with the Toyos #2 in Consumer Reports.
(The Toyos had slightly better wet/dry handling vs. the Goodyears slightly better braking and traction.)

EricL

You're back to all-season tires...

Something you might want to consider...

lookitsakyauk

why not the Sumitomo HTR Z II. You should get decent wear and they grip pretty well. and best of all they are only like $90 on tirer rack.

isbworking

I have a CL-P and bought some BFG G force KDWS in 225/55-16. Got them at NTW for $93 ea. plus the other usual fees. They're rated 400 AA A , no rubbing and a vast improvement over stock. Totally transformed the car. I can't vouch for the wear at this point since I only have a few thousand miles on them, but for the money I think they're excellent. They're also quiet.

CLean

Holy crap: A 225/55/16??? Are you sure?? Because that is going to have a much bigger sidewall than the stock 205/55/16...

Must look like a truck.

NOLACLS

How do you like the 750's??? I have the 950's now and they suck but I kinda thought they would. I just needed something to last and they are. But I was thinking of going with the 750's next. How many miles you have on them and how long do you think they will last?

isbworking

Original tire is 205/60/16 So 225/55/16 is pretty close. But , yeah, when I first looked at them I thought I could drive across a swamp. It's sounds bigger than it really is. If you look at the specs it like 1" wider. So that's only 1/2 each side and the height is basically the same.

Slooo97CL

iTrader: (1)

i just bought mine on tirerack and just got them mounted...75 a pop for 16's.....my boy picked up the same tires but 17's 90 bucks a tire...

he got quoted 152 bucks a tire at sears auto...

i got to say I drove in 5 inches of snow the other night with the conti's no problems at all...top speed was only like 40 mph but felt confident...steering response is nice...they are not the quietest but defiantely not loud...best price for the bang..i recommend them.

Amoeba

Eric, I went from stock to ultra high performance all season (continental contiextremecontact) much better grip in dry and rain than stock, but I dont like them too much, they are wearing like a bitch. Now this is my question,

Is a high performance tire such as an ultra high performance summer tire (RE750) going to stick a lot better in the dry than the ultra high performance all seasons. Also, will the treadwear be decent on the RE750's. The stock wore out in the front at 8,000 miles and these conti's will be worn out at all for tires at about 10-12. Granted, I think there is something wrong my suspension that I need to check with Acura, but I wanted to know the general differences between

ultra high performance summer vs. ultra high performance all season.

EricL

Ultra-high performance "dry" > ultra-high performance all-season "dry".

The Conti 3-season are stickier than the 4-season in the dry.
The 750s are nice tires and stickier than the 950s in the dry.

The 3-seasons are going to be much better in the dry than the 4-seasons. More examples:

Michelin Pilot stickier in the dry than Michelin Pilot A/S
Toyo T1S stickier in the dry than Toyo FZ4.

Just so you don't think I have all all-season tires, I put Yokohama ABS dbs on my wife's Altima.


If your suspension is "sick", your tires are not going to last. Can you head off to a good suspension shop?

lou_RENAMED

I agree but the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S arent that off from the Michelin Pilot Sport.

Michelin Pilot Sport A/S

On the outside, the Pilot Sport A/S features a “three compound tread” (a high dry grip tread compound in the shoulders; a balanced dry, wet, snow and cold tread compound between the shoulders and the tire’s center rib; and a wet traction compound in the center rib). These compounds are molded into a directional tread design with a continuous circumferential center rib flanked by high angle directional tread blocks. The continuous center rib sharpens steering response and provides road feel while reducing tire noise on dry roads. The high angle lateral tread blocks enhance responsiveness and handling while the tire’s circumferential and high angle lateral grooves efficiently evacuate water from under the contact patch to resist hydroplaning and enhance wet traction.

On the inside, two high-tensile, steel cord belts are angled to blend progressive handling with ride quality. The steel belts are reinforced with Michelin’s “Filament At Zero” (FAZ) technology to further support the tread area by spiral wrapping an individual strand of hybrid Kevlar/nylon cable across the entire tread area under the steel belts, and then above the steel belt’s outer edges. FAZ technology enhances tire wear and ride comfort along with predictable handling and high speed durability.

On The Tire Rack’s test track in the dry, the Michelin Pilot Sport A/S provided good traction and responsive handling. While the Pilot Sport A/S provided a level of performance that maintained its “best in class” status in the Ultra High Performance All-Season category, it couldn’t match the traction level or the handling stability of the other two tires in the test and, as expected, turned the slowest lap times. However, the Pilot Sport A/S came closer to its Max Performance brother, Pilot Sport, than we had expected going into the test.


http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/testSearch.jsp

EricL

Lou:


IMO, testing is just one tool and should be used with multiple reports and personal comments. (How often have we seen car test reports that seem so out-of-wack?)

You might find this link of some interest

http://www.tirerack.com/tires/tests/...port_as_rd.jsp

SEE: PERFORMANCE TEST TRACK DRIVE LAP TIMES

So, in this test set, they have a Dunlop SP 5000 with a dry lap time of 31.273 (1st place), with the Pirelli P7000 SS in (2nd place) @ 31.401, and the Michelin A/S third (last) with a time of 31.508.

I've recommended the A/S on many occasions to people who want an excellent 4-season tire. But, I've also seen comments on this forum and in general from people who switched to the A/S from 3-season max-performance tires (S-03, Pilot, etc) only to return to 3-season tires when they lost the performance edge they previously had.

So, it depends on just how much performance someone is looking for and what trade-offs to make in getting it. (I'm not quite ready for R rated rubber for daily driving... )

BTW, one think I neglected to comment on was: 4-season rubber will generally last longer than the 3-season stuff (emphasis on generally).


YMMV

lou_RENAMED

the clk comes with Michelin Pilot sport three seasons and I switched to the Michelin Pilot sport all seasons and on aggressive street driving you wont feel the difference. IMO

EricL

I will add you to the "no difference" list

-Eric

darrinb

i'm gonna be shoppin for tires this spring too, going between the toyo proxes 4 or the t1-s in 225/45/17