help me locate a wire
help me locate a wire
Most of us hooked up the alarm shock sensor to the hood trigger wire (yellow w/ silver stripe). Anyone with a Helm manual, can you point out which is the TRUNK trigger wire? (color code, where can it be found etc would be extremely appreciated. THx.
This is page 22-212 if anyone wants to double check my results (and please do!!):
The hood trigger wire:
Cavity B6
Yellow
Hood Open: V=<1V
Hood Closed: V=>5V
The trunk trigger wire:
Cavity B8
Blue/Green
Trunk lid open: V=<1V
Trunk lid closed: V=>5V
The trunk wire is in the same general location as the hood wire, ie at the control unit on the drivers side.
Out of curiousity, what do you have in mind?
The hood trigger wire:
Cavity B6
Yellow
Hood Open: V=<1V
Hood Closed: V=>5V
The trunk trigger wire:
Cavity B8
Blue/Green
Trunk lid open: V=<1V
Trunk lid closed: V=>5V
The trunk wire is in the same general location as the hood wire, ie at the control unit on the drivers side.
Out of curiousity, what do you have in mind?
Originally posted by D73
This is page 22-212 if anyone wants to double check my results (and please do!!):
The hood trigger wire:
Cavity B6
Yellow
Hood Open: V=<1V
Hood Closed: V=>5V
The trunk trigger wire:
Cavity B8
Blue/Green
Trunk lid open: V=<1V
Trunk lid closed: V=>5V
The trunk wire is in the same general location as the hood wire, ie at the control unit on the drivers side.
Out of curiousity, what do you have in mind?
This is page 22-212 if anyone wants to double check my results (and please do!!):
The hood trigger wire:
Cavity B6
Yellow
Hood Open: V=<1V
Hood Closed: V=>5V
The trunk trigger wire:
Cavity B8
Blue/Green
Trunk lid open: V=<1V
Trunk lid closed: V=>5V
The trunk wire is in the same general location as the hood wire, ie at the control unit on the drivers side.
Out of curiousity, what do you have in mind?
I'll check this when I get home, but I *think* that "legally" opening the trunk (or door or hood etc) will all disable the alarm. If so, you could hook up your shock sensor to the hood/trunk/door etc and it would be the same. Maybe SilverKnight could chime in here...
Keep in mind, the stock alarm will NOT arm even though the doors may be locked (if you press the lock button on the remote) if one or more of the following conditions is/are met:
- Hood open (door will lock).
- Trunk open (door will lock).
- Door(s) open (door will NOT lock).
- Key in ignition (door will NOT lock).
So it doesn't matter which wire you tap the shock sensor wire to. Hope it helps.
- Hood open (door will lock).
- Trunk open (door will lock).
- Door(s) open (door will NOT lock).
- Key in ignition (door will NOT lock).
So it doesn't matter which wire you tap the shock sensor wire to. Hope it helps.
Originally posted by SilverKnight
Keep in mind, the stock alarm will NOT arm even though the doors may be locked (if you press the lock button on the remote) if one or more of the following conditions is/are met:
- Hood open (door will lock).
- Trunk open (door will lock).
- Door(s) open (door will NOT lock).
- Key in ignition (door will NOT lock).
So it doesn't matter which wire you tap the shock sensor wire to. Hope it helps.
Keep in mind, the stock alarm will NOT arm even though the doors may be locked (if you press the lock button on the remote) if one or more of the following conditions is/are met:
- Hood open (door will lock).
- Trunk open (door will lock).
- Door(s) open (door will NOT lock).
- Key in ignition (door will NOT lock).
So it doesn't matter which wire you tap the shock sensor wire to. Hope it helps.
Now if you tap the shock sensor to the trigger wire of the trunk, if the trunk is open (with remote) while the system is still armed, the factory alarm will "disable" the trunk trigger wire (ignores its signal) so doesn't matter if the shock is being picked up and is being sent to the trunk signal, alarm will not go off.. So when you're finished loading, close the trunk, factory alarm sees that the trunk is now closed, enable the trunk trigger wire again...everything is back to full alarming state.
When i said open the trunk, i meant to use the remote and open it, not disable the system, open the door and pop the trunk via that switch on the door....this mod should be useful if you just want to put something into the trunk and go do something else...
I think randomwalk101 is correct.
My test was exceedingly sophisticated, so keep up if you can.
- close all doors/trunk/hood and arm alarm using FOB
- watch the little blinking red light at the door that shows alarm is armed
- yep, it blinks
- open trunk using FOB
- watch blinking light
- hmm... still blinking
- disarm alarm using FOB
- watch blinking light
- nope, not blinking
- end of scientific high tech test
Conclusion: If you open the trunk using the FOB, the alarm is still armed. So if you hook the shock sensor to the trunk wires, dumping groceries into your open trunk will cause the alarm to go off.
Congrats randomwalk101! Now go install your alarm and tell us how it works out.
My test was exceedingly sophisticated, so keep up if you can.
- close all doors/trunk/hood and arm alarm using FOB
- watch the little blinking red light at the door that shows alarm is armed
- yep, it blinks
- open trunk using FOB
- watch blinking light
- hmm... still blinking
- disarm alarm using FOB
- watch blinking light
- nope, not blinking
- end of scientific high tech test
Conclusion: If you open the trunk using the FOB, the alarm is still armed. So if you hook the shock sensor to the trunk wires, dumping groceries into your open trunk will cause the alarm to go off.
Congrats randomwalk101! Now go install your alarm and tell us how it works out.
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Originally posted by D73
Conclusion: If you open the trunk using the FOB, the alarm is still armed. So if you hook the shock sensor to the trunk wires, dumping groceries into your open trunk will cause the alarm to go off.
Congrats randomwalk101! Now go install your alarm and tell us how it works out.
Conclusion: If you open the trunk using the FOB, the alarm is still armed. So if you hook the shock sensor to the trunk wires, dumping groceries into your open trunk will cause the alarm to go off.
Congrats randomwalk101! Now go install your alarm and tell us how it works out.
I have a TL. Wiring code is different from CL I think. The hood trigger wire is yellow/silver and trunk trigger wire I think is orange/silver...different than the one you gave me..but i'm not 100 positive.
Originally posted by D73
I think randomwalk101 is correct.
My test was exceedingly sophisticated, so keep up if you can.
- close all doors/trunk/hood and arm alarm using FOB
- watch the little blinking red light at the door that shows alarm is armed
- yep, it blinks
- open trunk using FOB
- watch blinking light
- hmm... still blinking
- disarm alarm using FOB
- watch blinking light
- nope, not blinking
- end of scientific high tech test
Conclusion: If you open the trunk using the FOB, the alarm is still armed. So if you hook the shock sensor to the trunk wires, dumping groceries into your open trunk will cause the alarm to go off.
Congrats randomwalk101! Now go install your alarm and tell us how it works out.
I think randomwalk101 is correct.
My test was exceedingly sophisticated, so keep up if you can.
- close all doors/trunk/hood and arm alarm using FOB
- watch the little blinking red light at the door that shows alarm is armed
- yep, it blinks
- open trunk using FOB
- watch blinking light
- hmm... still blinking
- disarm alarm using FOB
- watch blinking light
- nope, not blinking
- end of scientific high tech test
Conclusion: If you open the trunk using the FOB, the alarm is still armed. So if you hook the shock sensor to the trunk wires, dumping groceries into your open trunk will cause the alarm to go off.
Congrats randomwalk101! Now go install your alarm and tell us how it works out.
While you are at it, try this.
- Lower your driver side window
- Arm the stock alarm.
- Pop the trunk using the FOB
- Verify that the LED still blinks
- Pull the door lock switch up to unlock the doors
See if the alarm is set off. I have aftermarket alarm now so I cannot try it. Make sure you dont try it in middle of the night or someone will call the police
. Let us know the result.
Did this
- Wind down window
- Armed alarm
- Opened trunk using FOB
- Pulled the door lock switch
And what do you know... Alarm sounds. So looks like if you have a shock sensor, it would be better to hook it up to the trunk wires.
- Wind down window
- Armed alarm
- Opened trunk using FOB
- Pulled the door lock switch
And what do you know... Alarm sounds. So looks like if you have a shock sensor, it would be better to hook it up to the trunk wires.
Originally posted by SilverKnight
Trunk wire that is then. Also, I think the trunk wire is easier to find the hood wire if I remember correctly.
Trunk wire that is then. Also, I think the trunk wire is easier to find the hood wire if I remember correctly.
Trust me, it ain't EZ.i tried to looked for that blue/green wire...there isn't one that I can see. I only saw GREEn/Blue (ei. green wire w/ blue stripe...yes, there is a difference). Now if anyone see where that blue/green wire we are looking for let me know. I'm about to give up finding that stupid trunk trigger wire.
LOL... Maybe the wiring is different for a TL vs CL. SilverKnight and I both have the 01 CL. My Helm manual is for the CL. You have a TL. You're shit outta luck. 
However, if you have a voltmeter, you can just go measure the voltage of each wire before and after opening the trunk. Obviously the wire that changes voltage is the trunk wire. I do hope you have a few hours to spare next weekend...
Sorry I can't offer you more concrete help than this.

However, if you have a voltmeter, you can just go measure the voltage of each wire before and after opening the trunk. Obviously the wire that changes voltage is the trunk wire. I do hope you have a few hours to spare next weekend...

Sorry I can't offer you more concrete help than this.
I powered my shock sensor with a wire that only has voltage when the trunk is closed. When you pop the trunk, the shock sensor loses power (it won't set the alarm off). As soon as the trunk is closed, the shock sensor regains power.
Noone seemed to like this idea when I did it, originally. Glad to hear someone else has some brains.
Noone seemed to like this idea when I did it, originally. Glad to hear someone else has some brains.
Originally posted by randomwalk101
Hehe..ez for YOU...since you're in Houston, may be I can drive my car up to you and let you point it out to me...but may be you should look at your car first and see if you can find it
Trust me, it ain't EZ.
i tried to looked for that blue/green wire...there isn't one that I can see. I only saw GREEn/Blue (ei. green wire w/ blue stripe...yes, there is a difference). Now if anyone see where that blue/green wire we are looking for let me know. I'm about to give up finding that stupid trunk trigger wire.
Hehe..ez for YOU...since you're in Houston, may be I can drive my car up to you and let you point it out to me...but may be you should look at your car first and see if you can find it
Trust me, it ain't EZ.i tried to looked for that blue/green wire...there isn't one that I can see. I only saw GREEn/Blue (ei. green wire w/ blue stripe...yes, there is a difference). Now if anyone see where that blue/green wire we are looking for let me know. I'm about to give up finding that stupid trunk trigger wire.
hahaha ... you know what? I just installed a CompuStar alarm in my car with remote start, windows control. The alarm called for hood switch, trunk lid, door wires so, of course, I found all of them for my car, the CL. I dont know if the wire colors are diff. on the TL but I can show you the wires on the CL in the HELM manual.
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