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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:23 PM
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Headed to Capital Raceway this Friday...

Gonna try and make a few passes in the new CL-S. Looks to be the lowest temps recently and definitely the lowest humidity.

Anyone local wanna come play too?

Finally gonna see some S/C'ed 6MT track times. Don't expect anything spectacular though. I've only had the car for 2 weeks.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 06:28 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Gonna try and make a few passes in the new CL-S. Looks to be the lowest temps recently and definitely the lowest humidity.

Anyone local wanna come play too?

Finally gonna see some S/C'ed 6MT track times. Don't expect anything spectacular though. I've only had the car for 2 weeks.
holy shit. I knew you sold the 01, but I guess I missed the thread where you said you upgraded to a 6mt

good luck man... cant wait to see the numbers you throw down.

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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:05 PM
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steve, did the car come with the SC or did you just get it? regardless, goodluckatthe track...
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:06 PM
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It came with it.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:34 PM
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I might come watch. Won't race mine yet, still want to do H/P/TB spacers etc......this fall I'll be ready. Weather looks real good Friday.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:38 PM
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Yeah i've been waiting for a decent day. The car is headed to Tischer Friday morning for a check up. So if I don't get it back in time the track is a no-go. I'm sure they wouldn't like me dragging a TSX loaner
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:41 PM
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Brandon said it was OK.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:45 PM
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12's man!!!

Actually I am more interested in your mph.
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:46 PM
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Originally Posted by ChucksCL-S
Brandon said it was OK.

LOL i'll ask!
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 07:48 PM
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12's man!!!

Meh... we'll see. I'm still a rookie with this thing. I'd be happing hitting 108 MPH in this car my first time out though

Still stock exhaust, no cooling mods, no intake manifold spacer...

I hook up pretty well though
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Old Jun 15, 2005 | 08:46 PM
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I might come up there on friday but I'm not sure yet. Depending on if i work late or not. Either way, wish you luck.
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Old Jun 16, 2005 | 11:59 PM
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good luck, i know it must be a bitch launching from a stop

u got it down pat??
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 09:29 AM
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You still running the stock tires on the stock wheels?

I'm also curious how you're doing getting used to the clutch.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 10:37 AM
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Stock wheels but the tires have been replaced. I'm pretty comfortable with the clutch now.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:48 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Meh... we'll see. I'm still a rookie with this thing. I'd be happing hitting 108 MPH in this car my first time out though

Still stock exhaust, no cooling mods, no intake manifold spacer...

I hook up pretty well though
If you hook up pretty well... then you arn't making much power!
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 12:32 PM
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Stock wheels but the tires have been replaced. I'm pretty comfortable with the clutch now.
ty using the hand break and pre load the clutch
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 02:27 PM
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If you hook up pretty well... then you arn't making much power!

Well the tires on the car are to the point where they aren't bald but they are really worn down. That actually helps me hook up. It still breaks loose and spins in 1st gear after 4,000 rpm and then breaks loose again after I've shifted into 2nd. We shall see what lower tire pressure does. Also, my buddy with the drag radials is coming so maybe we'll swap those on for a run
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 02:29 PM
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ty using the hand break and pre load the clutch

I'm gonna go easy on the launch. Rev to 2500-3000 and ease it out. I'll let you all know how things turned out tonight or tomorrow morning.

The forecast says at 6pm it will be 74 degrees with 41% humidity
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 02:58 PM
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I'm gonna go easy on the launch. Rev to 2500-3000 and ease it out. I'll let you all know how things turned out tonight or tomorrow morning.

The forecast says at 6pm it will be 74 degrees with 41% humidity
try it a couple times...it takes the shock off the flywheel and tends to launch better...liked you'd do at a light but w/o rolling ...thats what the hand break is for
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 03:23 PM
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Good luck man, post up the results !!!

I can't wait to find a decent day to go to the track myself. And next time, I will try the handbrake trick too!
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 10:43 PM
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Well lets just say it wasn't a good night. The first run I bogged down badly and then spun. 2.44 60'. Second run I launched well but messed up shifting and ran a horrible run. My best run of the night was my last.

2.2 60' Nailed all the shifts very well but still only managed a 14.3 @ 99 MPH. My best trap was on the first run at 101 MPH.

So obviously something is wrong with the car. Even in 90 degree weather my automatic CL-S trapped 103 MPH. Tonight was low 70s with low humidity. Perfect night.

I got home and checked the ESM voltage. It is at 2.90v. Isn't it supposed to be at 2.93v? I'm gonna go adjust it and see what happens.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:08 PM
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I adjusted it to 2.93v and test drove it. Ran like shit. Surging etc. Major timing retard. Back to the drawing board tomorrow.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:30 PM
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has it been tuned or just running a emanage base map?
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:32 PM
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Running the standard Comptech ESM. Nothing fancy.

I mean my times are what a N/A 6-MT should run with I/H. Maybe there's a vacuum leak? Time to hook up those gauges.
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Old Jun 17, 2005 | 11:36 PM
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Also, I hear no belt slip at all and the belt feels like it is at the ideal tension.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 03:23 AM
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checked the accuator? although i dont think they go on the '03's?
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 10:13 AM
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Supercharged = actuator disconnected anyways, but yes there is an actuator on the '03
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 11:08 AM
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Man, sorry to hear that - ESM can be as low as 2.8V - mine is at 2.75V. However the E-manage is slightly different from the Comptech ESM due to the different ground levels.

The 6-speed is a bitch to drive... albeit your mph is very low for a S/C car... on par for a slightly modded NA car.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 11:31 AM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
The 6-speed is a bitch to drive...

yes....for performance oriented drags then yah. The car must have solid pair of tires. Power gets there quickly and so any slippage or lack of traction down low will kill the times. A/S tires will not suffice if you want good track times. Drag radials and/or dedicated track tire/rim setup is a must. Clutch will take a beating but that's the nature of the beast.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 12:28 PM
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
Man, sorry to hear that - ESM can be as low as 2.8V - mine is at 2.75V. However the E-manage is slightly different from the Comptech ESM due to the different ground levels.

The 6-speed is a bitch to drive... albeit your mph is very low for a S/C car... on par for a slightly modded NA car.

Yeah I really don't get it. A 2.2 60' is a great time for a 6-speed so I should have run much faster. I was really banging through the gears too. I guess I need to first install the gauges in this car (which I've been too lazy/busy to do lately) and then take it to the dyno and see wtf is going on.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 12:29 PM
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yes....for performance oriented drags then yah. The car must have solid pair of tires. Power gets there quickly and so any slippage or lack of traction down low will kill the times. A/S tires will not suffice if you want good track times. Drag radials and/or dedicated track tire/rim setup is a must. Clutch will take a beating but that's the nature of the beast.

Traction wasn't that much of an issue. I spun a little in first but I didn't really go WOT till very close to redline. Of course I broke loose again in 2nd.

My automatic N/A CL-S was faster than this 6MT was last night
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 12:37 PM
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Last night wasn't a total waste though. I did get to see a Cadillac CTS-V run 12.60 @ 115 MPH on stock tires.

Magnacharger @ 6psi + headers + exhaust = $8,000.
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I would LOVE LOVE LOVE to have a CTS-V. OMG those things are so sexy.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 12:41 PM
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You should have heard it. Totally quiet at idle. But holy shit when he got on the throttle it was like a whole different animal.
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Old Jun 18, 2005 | 01:17 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Traction wasn't that much of an issue. I spun a little in first but I didn't really go WOT till very close to redline. Of course I broke loose again in 2nd.

My automatic N/A CL-S was faster than this 6MT was last night

yea sorry didn't mean that for your runs. 2.2 is good for a 6MT. Only thing is with the LSD is that spin isn't the best thing anytime. My best launches were with warm tires and no grip. But my setup was with SSRs 17x8 with wide ass tires. I could feel with the tires would dig in and when they were slipping.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:26 PM
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once you get the gauges installed, you will know if fuel/boost is your problem and can go from there.
if you feel a weak low/midrange, it could be fuel related. Make sure to check your fuel pump and fpr if it is a fuel problem.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 12:30 PM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
Supercharged = actuator disconnected anyways, but yes there is an actuator on the '03
not that isnt an accutator on an '03 but not sure theyre pron to going ,as they made a design change so as the motor is right there at the valve....IMO and with no proof i feel it's a mistake to take out the butterfly
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 02:18 PM
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not that isnt an accutator on an '03 but not sure theyre pron to going ,as they made a design change so as the motor is right there at the valve....IMO and with no proof i feel it's a mistake to take out the butterfly

The previous owner could hear pinging with the IMRC connected after the high boost pulley was installed. Thus, it is staying disconnected.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:06 PM
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The previous owner could hear pinging with the IMRC connected after the high boost pulley was installed. Thus, it is staying disconnected.
I... um... concur.
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Old Jun 20, 2005 | 03:09 PM
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Originally Posted by derelict
I... um... concur.

I think spark plugs were your problem
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