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Old May 22, 2012 | 11:04 AM
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Hbp ?

I just bought the last HBP from CT Engineering , an it should be here next week. They told me that the only thing I have to do its get the car on the dyno to set the FPR, that I wont need no fuel management system, or bigger injectors that the ESM would work just fine. Its anyone out here running the HBP on the esm an havent gotten any issues ? Any help would be gladly appreciated.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 01:00 PM
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people who run it/have run it up their fuel pressure. Streetka and Rondog were running the HBP for a while with no tune. I think they'll both suggest you don't run it without engine management since they both ended up replacing their engines. But there are a few people who run it with no problems so
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Old May 22, 2012 | 01:21 PM
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people who run it/have run it up their fuel pressure. Streetka and Rondog were running the HBP for a while with no tune. I think they'll both suggest you don't run it without engine management since they both ended up replacing their engines. But there are a few people who run it with no problems so
which engine management you suggest an what boomslang should i used. WOuld i have to take the esm that came with the supercharger.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 01:35 PM
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i think the only one that works with the 6speed is the emanage blue and the 6speed boomslang harness. Not sure if you keep the ESM once you have the emanage though. No one has really posted about the success of the emanage yet so its seems kind of grey.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 01:38 PM
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i think the only one that works with the 6speed is the emanage blue and the 6speed boomslang harness. Not sure if you keep the ESM once you have the emanage though. No one has really posted about the success of the emanage yet so its seems kind of grey.
oh damn i dont wanna blow up, where can i get the boomslang from, an can i used a unviersal emanage ?
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Old May 22, 2012 | 04:17 PM
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Originally Posted by gnuts
i think the only one that works with the 6speed is the emanage blue and the 6speed boomslang harness. Not sure if you keep the ESM once you have the emanage though. No one has really posted about the success of the emanage yet so its seems kind of grey.
The ESM needs to be removed when using a piggy back IIRC.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 04:45 PM
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Yeah that's what Paul told me when I talked to him about it. Take out the esm, f it works let me know! Also I remember reading somewhere on here about doing something f you're running HBP. I can't remember exactly but someone posted about avoiding engine damage. I'll try to find it.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 05:42 PM
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Mike this gonna be your biggest problem...management. It all sucks with these cars. I wouldn't put the hbp on till you figure stuff out. If your insistent though, i'd get a wideband first along with a walbro 255, better afpr and start playing with your fuel pressure
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Old May 22, 2012 | 06:30 PM
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Originally Posted by AnthraciteTypeS
Mike this gonna be your biggest problem...management. It all sucks with these cars. I wouldn't put the hbp on till you figure stuff out. If your insistent though, i'd get a wideband first along with a walbro 255, better afpr and start playing with your fuel pressure
Already got the wide band,255 walbro an the afpr that came with the supercharger. Thats what they told me to get it on the dyno an mess with the fuel pressure. I just got it put my boost gauge an fuel pressure regulator gauge. I just don't wanna blow up, that's my only concern.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 06:45 PM
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Jesus, "tuning" with an FPR is from the early 90s. To this day, Im still shocked a company like CT would recommend that on a $5k supercharger kit.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 06:56 PM
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Can anyone send me a link of the fuel management an the boomslang that i would need. Thanks.
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Old May 22, 2012 | 07:15 PM
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even with low boost pulley you have to go to the dyno and try your best to adjust fpr to run too rich or lean... i ran too rich on lbp and too lean on hbp couldnt do anything about it... my point is i do not regret anything... its was worth it... forget about running it without wideband

fpr must be adjusted right... mine could be faulty or something
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Old May 22, 2012 | 07:22 PM
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The emanage blue is universal made by Greddy.
http://www.boomslang.us/e-manage-blu...5&trans=Manual
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Old May 23, 2012 | 12:06 AM
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i'm running the CT HBP now, and would not even think about putting it on without any management system. But if you really want to try and only adjust fuel pressure, you need to ditch the CT fuel regulator and go with a 1.1 regulator. The rising rate one CT use's isn't consistent enough for the HBP. I played with it for a while and thought i had it set with just fuel pressure, but on a few pulls the thing would go way lean. I'm now running the AEM FIC6 and running strong and consistent numbers for A/F.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:34 AM
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Originally Posted by WBA-01
i'm running the CT HBP now, and would not even think about putting it on without any management system. But if you really want to try and only adjust fuel pressure, you need to ditch the CT fuel regulator and go with a 1.1 regulator. The rising rate one CT use's isn't consistent enough for the HBP. I played with it for a while and thought i had it set with just fuel pressure, but on a few pulls the thing would go way lean. I'm now running the AEM FIC6 and running strong and consistent numbers for A/F.
Do you have an Accord or a 3G TL?
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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:36 AM
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^Really good point.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:59 AM
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IIRC arent you supposed to disconnect the imrc when running the high boost pulley too ?
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Old May 23, 2012 | 10:23 AM
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^ not if you tuned to account for the IMRC opening up.
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Old May 23, 2012 | 09:28 PM
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Originally Posted by civicdrivr
Do you have an Accord or a 3G TL?
I have a 2G TL-P (auto), But about 1/2 of the way done with my 3.6 build.

Originally Posted by vip_inspire
IIRC arent you supposed to disconnect the imrc when running the high boost pulley too ?
it depends on management and how it's setup. If he leaves the imrc controlled by the factory ecu it will have problems as the ecu takes multiple factors into opening the valve ( coolant temp, rpm, eld, & calculated load). so you could try tuning for it to be opened and the factory ecu decides to keep it shut. The best way around it is to intercept the signal with the piggyback and set it up to open with a map signal or straight rpm based cutoff.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 12:16 AM
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[QUOTE=WBA-01;13795703]I have a 2G TL-P (auto), But about 1/2 of the way done with my 3.6 build.


Do you plan on adding the S/C to the 3.6 ?
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Old May 24, 2012 | 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by WBA-01
I have a 2G TL-P (auto), But about 1/2 of the way done with my 3.6 build.
This doesn't help us 6 speeds though. Seems all success stories are autos
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Old May 24, 2012 | 09:48 AM
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Originally Posted by WBA-01
i'm running the CT HBP now, and would not even think about putting it on without any management system. But if you really want to try and only adjust fuel pressure, you need to ditch the CT fuel regulator and go with a 1.1 regulator. The rising rate one CT use's isn't consistent enough for the HBP. I played with it for a while and thought i had it set with just fuel pressure, but on a few pulls the thing would go way lean. I'm now running the AEM FIC6 and running strong and consistent numbers for A/F.
what harness are you using ?
aem,booms,is it stock or did you have to re-pin any wires ?
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Old May 24, 2012 | 02:12 PM
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decided not to do go with the hbp to complicated, so as soon I get it it will be on the market if anyone wants it pm”d me. Thanks for all the help
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Old May 24, 2012 | 10:17 PM
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Originally Posted by rush
Do you plan on adding the S/C to the 3.6 ?
Short anwser, yes. I will start with just the 3.6 swap, then add the SC back on then finally upgrade to the M90. I know everyone will jump all over me that the M62 is to small for the 3.6, but i still don't see how it could hurt the numbers since i all ready own it. So i will try it first to see what kind of numbers i can get out of it.

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This doesn't help us 6 speeds though. Seems all success stories are autos
I really isn't that much different, the main difference is the crank signal. The 6 speeds have a hall sensor vs the AT's mag sensor. So you just have to make sure you use the correct input to the FIC.

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what harness are you using ?
aem,booms,is it stock or did you have to re-pin any wires ?
I got the AEM extension harness, and wired it myself. I didn't re-pin any wires, the stock harness is untouched, but i am running a type s ecu as well. I had an mdx ecu trying to get more fuel, but that was before setting up FIC.
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Old May 24, 2012 | 10:37 PM
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The M62 on the 3.6l will struggle to make 3psi if you're running the HBP. The power gained will just offset the weight added.

/obligatory stroker+CT s/c'er wont work comment
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Old May 25, 2012 | 08:56 AM
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whatever happened with the post I saw where someone said that someone was working on installing the aem stand alone on the manual motor?
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Old May 25, 2012 | 10:28 AM
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IIRC I heard that they were waiting for AEM to get back to them with a configuration update. Dont quote me though.








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Old May 25, 2012 | 04:38 PM
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Im interested in the pulley check your IM box thanks
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