Has anyone actually used the M-105 filter?
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Has anyone actually used the M-105 filter?
Anyone used the oversized Mobil1 M-105??
I know that one Oil Review sounded like it worked fine. Just wanna make sure before I slap it on.
The threads seem to be the same size but the gasket is a lil off from the M-104
I also picked up a Fram Surevalve.
I know that one Oil Review sounded like it worked fine. Just wanna make sure before I slap it on.
The threads seem to be the same size but the gasket is a lil off from the M-104
I also picked up a Fram Surevalve.
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i'm curious about the surevalve, keep us informed.
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i got a surevalve but the damn cap wont thread all the way on. i just got it on enough to cover up the nozzle area. hopefully this wont cause a problem. i think i may have screwed up the outer thread when u dropped it at the autoparts place cuz i needed a damn 22mm socket to get it on right.
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Heres a quote I saved from ATL.com:
I got an email from Bill Miles at maxima.org in regard to my results posted above. He also has some interesting info with regard to 5w/20 vs. 5w30. Hopefully this won't be too long.
...your wear levels are pretty typical for the V6 Hondas, so you have nothing to really worry about. The Universal Averages are what is expected for your type engine after a certain number of miles (Blackstone usually tells you in their comments). Following the tips below will help keep your oil in good condition and improve those wear level values a bit.
Regarding the oil filter: I am now recommending an oversized oil filter for the TL and Odysseys: the STP S3985. It's a great price ($3) and an excellent design and will really help filter good, especially given you are still breaking both vehicles in (well, sorta). However, be warned that I'm not positive it will fit in the Odyssey. I can tell you for sure it will fit in the TL fine (I use one in my dad's 99 TL), but not the Odyssey.
Should the Odyssey need a "shorter" filter, then the STP S3950 will work as well. It's about an inch shorter than the other one, so it has slightly less filtering area. It's still a step above the standard filter volume on the Honda filters and the Mobil 1 M1-104. The S3950 is the same size as the M1-105, which is the oversized application for the M1-104. Several TL and CL guys are already using the M1-105. The Mobil1 filters (usually $12) are just too pricey to not just buy 2 STP ones over the same drain interval and yet protect as good or better than Mobil 1 when using it over an entire interval. Oil filtration seems to be the key with these Honda VTEC V6 engines.
I asked him for a review of the STP filter:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
They allude to the Mobil 1 M1-105 oversized filter (wider than the M1-104) that they installed on a Prelude, which is a direct cross reference to the STP S3950 (Prelude guys briefly mention this one fitting fine as well) I mentioned in my previous e-mail. In addition, the STP S3985 filter I mentioned to you is a longer (about an inch) version of the STP S3950. Another benefit of these filters is the top bypass valve design (at the inlet). As the Prelude guys explain about the M1-105/S3985/S3950 advantage: "This one, however, has a unique bypass valve integrated into the outlet. When pressure is high enough, the oil forces the valve open and should travel right from the inlet, through the valve, and out the outlet (very short path)." Since the STP ones are about $3/each, changing them more often makes sense for extending your oil life without increasing your cost since the Mobil 1 filters are around $12 each.
Another important item: change your air filter every 6 months. Disregard what Acura recommends in this manner. This will help keep your silicon (i.e. dirt) level down in both vehicles.
For the elevated copper levels, he had this to say:
Copper just tends to run higher on the Honda V6s (as do chromium, lead, aluminum, iron), but yours are fairly out of range at your respective mileage points. Since you went synthetic so relatively early in both vehicles, it has taken your engines a longer time to truly break in and why you are still showing such wear. In addition, from my experience with these lab results, filters are stressed a lot in Honda engines. In my dad's TL I am using Amsoil Series 2000 0W/30 for a year with oil changes every 4 months (similar driving conditions to your Odyssey) with an oversized oil filter.
...your wear levels are pretty typical for the V6 Hondas, so you have nothing to really worry about. The Universal Averages are what is expected for your type engine after a certain number of miles (Blackstone usually tells you in their comments). Following the tips below will help keep your oil in good condition and improve those wear level values a bit.
Regarding the oil filter: I am now recommending an oversized oil filter for the TL and Odysseys: the STP S3985. It's a great price ($3) and an excellent design and will really help filter good, especially given you are still breaking both vehicles in (well, sorta). However, be warned that I'm not positive it will fit in the Odyssey. I can tell you for sure it will fit in the TL fine (I use one in my dad's 99 TL), but not the Odyssey.
Should the Odyssey need a "shorter" filter, then the STP S3950 will work as well. It's about an inch shorter than the other one, so it has slightly less filtering area. It's still a step above the standard filter volume on the Honda filters and the Mobil 1 M1-104. The S3950 is the same size as the M1-105, which is the oversized application for the M1-104. Several TL and CL guys are already using the M1-105. The Mobil1 filters (usually $12) are just too pricey to not just buy 2 STP ones over the same drain interval and yet protect as good or better than Mobil 1 when using it over an entire interval. Oil filtration seems to be the key with these Honda VTEC V6 engines.
I asked him for a review of the STP filter:
http://www.ntpog.org/reviews/filters/filters.shtml
They allude to the Mobil 1 M1-105 oversized filter (wider than the M1-104) that they installed on a Prelude, which is a direct cross reference to the STP S3950 (Prelude guys briefly mention this one fitting fine as well) I mentioned in my previous e-mail. In addition, the STP S3985 filter I mentioned to you is a longer (about an inch) version of the STP S3950. Another benefit of these filters is the top bypass valve design (at the inlet). As the Prelude guys explain about the M1-105/S3985/S3950 advantage: "This one, however, has a unique bypass valve integrated into the outlet. When pressure is high enough, the oil forces the valve open and should travel right from the inlet, through the valve, and out the outlet (very short path)." Since the STP ones are about $3/each, changing them more often makes sense for extending your oil life without increasing your cost since the Mobil 1 filters are around $12 each.
Another important item: change your air filter every 6 months. Disregard what Acura recommends in this manner. This will help keep your silicon (i.e. dirt) level down in both vehicles.
For the elevated copper levels, he had this to say:
Copper just tends to run higher on the Honda V6s (as do chromium, lead, aluminum, iron), but yours are fairly out of range at your respective mileage points. Since you went synthetic so relatively early in both vehicles, it has taken your engines a longer time to truly break in and why you are still showing such wear. In addition, from my experience with these lab results, filters are stressed a lot in Honda engines. In my dad's TL I am using Amsoil Series 2000 0W/30 for a year with oil changes every 4 months (similar driving conditions to your Odyssey) with an oversized oil filter.
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Originally posted by mattg
i'm curious about the surevalve, keep us informed.
i'm curious about the surevalve, keep us informed.
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Is that their drain valve deal? These are the best Fuomoto Valve They also do discounts. If someone buys one they will send you a code you can give your friends to get a discount. I've got one on the wife's Jetta. Just changed the oil today. All I had to do was hold a jug under the valve and open it. I always somehow manage to spill oil some other way though but this makes draining a breeze.
Is that their drain valve deal? These are the best Fuomoto Valve They also do discounts. If someone buys one they will send you a code you can give your friends to get a discount. I've got one on the wife's Jetta. Just changed the oil today. All I had to do was hold a jug under the valve and open it. I always somehow manage to spill oil some other way though but this makes draining a breeze.
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
It's convenient, but is it really needed? if you are changing the oil, I expect you to get your hand dirty!
It's convenient, but is it really needed? if you are changing the oil, I expect you to get your hand dirty!
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