Got beat by a Legend, WTF???
08-02-2001, 08:15 PM
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Got beat by a Legend, WTF???
I raced a Legend sedan yesterday. He had me about 1/2 a car length and he got me off the line. I caught up at one point but he started pulling ahead. I thought the legend was under 220 horseys???
08-02-2001, 10:38 PM
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a) heavily moddified Legend
b) 6spd Type II Engine Legend.. capable of high 14's stock.. and way more torque than you can imagine..
look for pimp on this forum.. he has both the 6spd Legend and the CL-S .. he can tell you the difference Night and Day..
I will tell you this.. he won't race me with the CL-S .. but he will race me with the Legend.. that has to tell you something..
a) heavily moddified Legend
b) 6spd Type II Engine Legend.. capable of high 14's stock.. and way more torque than you can imagine..
look for pimp on this forum.. he has both the 6spd Legend and the CL-S .. he can tell you the difference Night and Day..
I will tell you this.. he won't race me with the CL-S .. but he will race me with the Legend.. that has to tell you something..
08-03-2001, 12:47 AM
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If it was a sedan, chances are it was modified. There wasn't a 6-speed manual available for the sedan Legend, only the coupe (I may stand corrected). Torque was roughly 220-230lb-ft. What does "gobs" of torque mean??
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.
08-03-2001, 01:17 AM
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i said more than he would imagine.. being that it wasn't the typical no torque honda engine.. which means it has highway pull..
Originally posted by TL_Type_S:
<STRONG>If it was a sedan, chances are it was modified. There wasn't a 6-speed manual available for the sedan Legend, only the coupe (I may stand corrected). Torque was roughly 220-230lb-ft. What does "gobs" of torque mean??
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.</STRONG>
<STRONG>If it was a sedan, chances are it was modified. There wasn't a 6-speed manual available for the sedan Legend, only the coupe (I may stand corrected). Torque was roughly 220-230lb-ft. What does "gobs" of torque mean??
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.</STRONG>
08-03-2001, 10:06 AM
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Originally posted by TL_Type_S:
<STRONG>If it was a sedan, chances are it was modified. There wasn't a 6-speed manual available for the sedan Legend, only the coupe (I may stand corrected). Torque was roughly 220-230lb-ft. What does "gobs" of torque mean??
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.</STRONG>
<STRONG>If it was a sedan, chances are it was modified. There wasn't a 6-speed manual available for the sedan Legend, only the coupe (I may stand corrected). Torque was roughly 220-230lb-ft. What does "gobs" of torque mean??
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.</STRONG>
08-04-2001, 02:44 AM
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Originally posted by TL_Type_S:
<STRONG>If it was a sedan, chances are it was modified. There wasn't a 6-speed manual available for the sedan Legend, only the coupe (I may stand corrected). Torque was roughly 220-230lb-ft. What does "gobs" of torque mean??
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.</STRONG>
<STRONG>If it was a sedan, chances are it was modified. There wasn't a 6-speed manual available for the sedan Legend, only the coupe (I may stand corrected). Torque was roughly 220-230lb-ft. What does "gobs" of torque mean??
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.</STRONG>
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Originally posted by doug:
<STRONG>i said more than he would imagine.. being that it wasn't the typical no torque honda engine.. which means it has highway pull..
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<STRONG>i said more than he would imagine.. being that it wasn't the typical no torque honda engine.. which means it has highway pull..
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08-04-2001, 01:03 PM
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then my you my friend don't have a typical honda engine...
anyway.. your CL-S doesn't have more torque than MY maxima.. it has more torque than a stock max..
and what is the dyno on a CL-S anyway? lets talk wheel hp and tq now.. not crank..
anyway.. your CL-S doesn't have more torque than MY maxima.. it has more torque than a stock max..
and what is the dyno on a CL-S anyway? lets talk wheel hp and tq now.. not crank..
Originally posted by moomaster_99:
<STRONG>I hate to be the one to tell you this doug...but our CL has a lot of torque and a lot more than your Max and at more useable rpms...(232lbs./ft @3500-4500 rpms)</STRONG>
<STRONG>I hate to be the one to tell you this doug...but our CL has a lot of torque and a lot more than your Max and at more useable rpms...(232lbs./ft @3500-4500 rpms)</STRONG>
08-06-2001, 06:45 PM
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Originally posted by TL_Type_S:
<STRONG>If it was a sedan, chances are it was modified. There wasn't a 6-speed manual available for the sedan Legend, only the coupe (I may stand corrected). Torque was roughly 220-230lb-ft. What does "gobs" of torque mean??
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.</STRONG>
<STRONG>If it was a sedan, chances are it was modified. There wasn't a 6-speed manual available for the sedan Legend, only the coupe (I may stand corrected). Torque was roughly 220-230lb-ft. What does "gobs" of torque mean??
I heard those 6sp gearboxes were crap.</STRONG>
Type I 200Hp/210Tq
Type II 230Hp/206Tq
6-Speeds in both coupe and sedan, only a small percentage though.
Dyno runs have around 180-185 HP to the wheels w/ the Type II, thats not much less than the CL-S/TL-S. Its concievable for the Legend to have won, driver dependant.
08-06-2001, 09:52 PM
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Originally posted by doug:
<STRONG>then my you my friend don't have a typical honda engine...
anyway.. your CL-S doesn't have more torque than MY maxima.. it has more torque than a stock max..
and what is the dyno on a CL-S anyway? lets talk wheel hp and tq now.. not crank..
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<STRONG>then my you my friend don't have a typical honda engine...
anyway.. your CL-S doesn't have more torque than MY maxima.. it has more torque than a stock max..
and what is the dyno on a CL-S anyway? lets talk wheel hp and tq now.. not crank..
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08-07-2001, 02:12 AM
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the dyno doesn't take into acct the lighter weight wheels.
i ran a 14.302 @98.69 w/just bolt ons and ssr wheels and a ton of wheel hop.
i ran a 14.422 a couple of weeks ago but it was much hotter and much more humid. I'll hit 14.1s once I get the launch down.
[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: Mike ]
i ran a 14.302 @98.69 w/just bolt ons and ssr wheels and a ton of wheel hop.
i ran a 14.422 a couple of weeks ago but it was much hotter and much more humid. I'll hit 14.1s once I get the launch down.
[ 08-07-2001: Message edited by: Mike ]
08-07-2001, 02:44 AM
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you're referring to your s2000 or the lude? Before my friend bought his SC for his s2k i beat him 3 out of 4 races. He's a decent driver but from what he tells me the s2k can be tough to launch. 
08-07-2001, 10:02 AM
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ok first when the S2k came out.. car and driver gave it 13.9 .. the S2k owners and mag racers rode it all the way to the bank..
now C&D ran again and its now 14.4 .. no one isn't talking anymore ....
oh moon.. i still have more tq than mike does..
now C&D ran again and its now 14.4
.. no one isn't talking anymore ....oh moon.. i still have more tq than mike does..
08-07-2001, 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by doug:
<STRONG>ok first when the S2k came out.. car and driver gave it 13.9 .. the S2k owners and mag racers rode it all the way to the bank..
now C&D ran again and its now 14.4 .. no one isn't talking anymore ....
oh moon.. i still have more tq than mike does..</STRONG>
<STRONG>ok first when the S2k came out.. car and driver gave it 13.9 .. the S2k owners and mag racers rode it all the way to the bank..
now C&D ran again and its now 14.4
.. no one isn't talking anymore ....oh moon.. i still have more tq than mike does..</STRONG>
how about some dynos or time slips or even a list of what you have done to your mighty, mighty maxima. (gotta love that maxima aftermarket)
08-07-2001, 01:05 PM
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ah why yes
mods: basic bolt-on's .. nothing special :o
mods: basic bolt-on's .. nothing special :o
Originally posted by tankmonkey:
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you certainly *talk* more than mike does...
how about some dynos or time slips or even a list of what you have done to your mighty, mighty maxima. (gotta love that maxima aftermarket)</STRONG>
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you certainly *talk* more than mike does...
how about some dynos or time slips or even a list of what you have done to your mighty, mighty maxima. (gotta love that maxima aftermarket)</STRONG>
08-07-2001, 01:20 PM
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Originally posted by doug:
<STRONG>ah why yes
mods: basic bolt-on's .. nothing special :o </STRONG>
<STRONG>ah why yes
mods: basic bolt-on's .. nothing special :o </STRONG>
I asked for your dyno and timeslips.
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08-07-2001, 04:16 PM
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Originally posted by doug:
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it is real</STRONG>
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it is real
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what really cracks me up is that the graph shows only 60hp at 40mph and 700hp at 110mph... kinda peaky, eh?
:p
08-07-2001, 04:19 PM
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Originally posted by doug:
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traction problems.. torque steer is a bitch</STRONG>
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traction problems.. torque steer is a bitch</STRONG>
08-07-2001, 05:41 PM
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Originally posted by tankmonkey:
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I think graphing the dyno curve as hp/torque over mph is a nice touch. most of the rest of the world graphs the hp/torque as a function of the engine speed (rpms) rather than vehicle speed (mph).
what really cracks me up is that the graph shows only 60hp at 40mph and 700hp at 110mph... kinda peaky, eh? :p</STRONG>
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I think graphing the dyno curve as hp/torque over mph is a nice touch. most of the rest of the world graphs the hp/torque as a function of the engine speed (rpms) rather than vehicle speed (mph).
what really cracks me up is that the graph shows only 60hp at 40mph and 700hp at 110mph... kinda peaky, eh?
:p</STRONG>
08-07-2001, 05:42 PM
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no as soon as i hit 60 mph all hell breaks loose
Originally posted by tankmonkey:
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with only 60hp at 40mph, narcolepsy would seem to be the bigger problem...</STRONG>
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with only 60hp at 40mph, narcolepsy would seem to be the bigger problem...</STRONG>
08-07-2001, 06:10 PM
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Originally posted by doug:
<STRONG>no as soon as i hit 60 mph all hell breaks loose
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<STRONG>no as soon as i hit 60 mph all hell breaks loose
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Originally posted by tankmonkey:
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you should really try the kevlar-reinforced powerband for that...</STRONG>
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you should really try the kevlar-reinforced powerband for that...</STRONG>
All you really need are titanium muffler bearings, SE rated headlight fluid and RT level lugnut fluid and you can put any car in the 12s...
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Originally posted by doug:
<STRONG>ah why yes
mods: basic bolt-on's .. nothing special :o </STRONG>
<STRONG>ah why yes
mods: basic bolt-on's .. nothing special :o </STRONG>
. Come on do you beleave that you could trick someone with this fake pic that you made in 5 seconds. And if it was real what bolt ons are you using , a jet engine .
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