ChucksCL-S

SSR Comps weigh 15.7 lbs each 17 X 8 if I remember right, or close to it.

Jacobpockros

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Is this your timeslip?

http://www.dragtimes.com/Acura-CL-Timeslip-7142.html

AARONSredTYPE-S

FOUND THE WEIGHT OF THE STOCK WHEELS AND TIRES.
50LBS FOR STOCK WHEEL/TIRE
26LBS FOR STOCK WHEEL ONLY.
I wonder how much of a difference would be to have 20-21 lb wheels would be?
anyways, thanks for the comments and brainstorming guys

here is the wheels i found locally for 400 with 215/45/18 hancook tires
20.8lbs a piece
http://www.fastwrx.com/rotatorque.html

gnuts

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I just read something on unsprung weight. I think it said every 5 pounds you shed on the rims is like 20lbs on the entire car.

JBlueCLS6

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Those would weigh 14.3 pounds.

I had 17 x 8.5 (SSR Comps) and they weighed exactly 15 pounds.

Here's a comprehensive list of several wheels

http://www.wheelweights.net/

Its an excel spreadsheet

Also increasing the diameter of the wheel will also have a negative effect fyi. Maybe not enough to outweigh several pounds of shed weight, but your best best is running a 17" wheel that is wider to fit a wider tire.

AARONSredTYPE-S

[quote=JBlueCLS6;12910956]Those would weigh 14.3 pounds.

I had 17 x 8.5 (SSR Comps) and they weighed exactly 15 pounds.

Here's a comprehensive list of several wheels

http://www.wheelweights.net/

Its an excel spreadsheet

Also increasing the diameter of the wheel will also have a negative effect fyi. Maybe not enough to outweigh several pounds of shed weight, but your best best is running a 17" wheel that is wider to fit a wider tire.[/quote]

thats what i thought...thanks for your input.
the guy sold the rotas before i could drive up to tampa today, so im still on the lookout

Joe5.0

Nope, not mine. I never have added it to dragtimes.

AARONSredTYPE-S

crazy that you basically had a stock car with drag radials and run waaaay better times than me with my mods.
What drag radials did you use on the stock wheels?

Joe5.0

My best time came with 225/45/17 BFG drag radials on lightweight centerline storm wheels. Thats how I ran my 13.9. The shorter diameter I am sure helped acceleration too, as even on the street it seemed to rev faster. I ended up going into 4th sooner which was nice, because with the stock tires you have to shift out of 3rd just a hair before the line.

Also I would always try to go when it was in the 60's or 70's and low humidity. Going when its 90* and humid does no real good.

I also almost always used the 'no lift shift' method, which can cut a tenth or two off the times.

AARONSredTYPE-S

thanks for the info, i appreciate it.

oh, but going when its not hot and humid in florida is like saying dont play in the snow in alaska...lol

Joe5.0

Just out of curiosity why do you run narrower tires in the rear?

AARONSredTYPE-S

well, the 215/50 were stock size, and i replaced those first, then i went to a 225/45 front cause i got a good deal on them. plus, the rear sits up higher, so the back ratio is a little bigger than the front..lol
i really want 235 or even 245 all around

AARONSredTYPE-S

going again soon..still hoping for that 13.9

Jacobpockros

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please shift at 7200 this time lol. A 14.1 isn't bad for shifting as low as you did, that's actually impressive

typeR

not trying to be a jerk but fuel cut is set at 7100... have always wanted to find a way to tricking the computer to letting it go to 7500 though

AARONSredTYPE-S

okay, 7100rpm then...lol..
anybody think i should run better than a 14?

civicdrivr

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You should. The bigger question is if you could.

AARONSredTYPE-S

lol, okay..
it will happen.. my 60ft needs to be a 1.9-2.0 to be in the 13's, so i am not far off with a 2.1..

Jacobpockros

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I've said this a few times, but I'll say it again just in case

You should lower your front psi to 24lbs

civicdrivr

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Honestly, with a 2.1 60ft you should be there already. The FL heat is killing your times.

Jacobpockros

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You can't always judge it by 60ft times. I ran a 2.3 60ft time when i ran my 9.3 1/8th stock, but have seen runs on other stock 6-speeds where they were getting 2.1 60fts in 1/8th passes that were slower than mine

CH46ESeaKnight

I know there is no clearance under the hood but if he has a long wait in staging area (Like we always did in Colorado) he could throw a bag of ice on the intake while in line with the hood up. I did that on my VW and it helped a lot. I also would stop by the water hose after a run on the way back to the line and water down the intercooler. Heat soak was a prob for me, and like you said, that heat is killing him.

I also had to drop my tires to 15 psi to get a 1.8-1.9 60 ft. Did not seem to effect my trap speed.




Civic before you reply to you know who, just remember your signiture! HAHAH lol

civicdrivr

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Im not even going to bother replying to his post because I dont think he understood where I was coming from.

You get it though.

CH46ESeaKnight

Im tracking!


Also to arron if you really want to get that extra tenth or so you could also take your power steering belt off. I know it seems a bit much but I've cheated that way before just to get that tenth with other cars. Of course none of them needed a motor mount undone to get if off either. But if you really want a 13.9 give it a shot.

I used to try all kinds of shit to pick up time. When i had nothing else to do.

I really wish we had a 1/4 track around here! Really miss it. Nothing but 1/8ths around here.

CH46ESeaKnight

Don't know if any of you guys have tried this or not.

https://www.pricechemical.com/Super_Street.html

You PC's IE may not like thier certificate. Just "Continue anyways" It safe I swear.

I have used it a few times for dyno days and dragstrip. It got my 2 tenths and 4 mph. They have some stronger stuff to if you are boosted.

The super street got me the 2 tenths and 4 mph in my big ass Chevy Tahoe with a built motor. IIRC i took the comp from 9.4 to 10.5. Also picked up 31 hp with it and 104 octane fuel. Here is a link to some photos of the engine work. Don't know if they are all still there or not.

http://chevytruckworld.tenmagazines....p?AlbumID=3154 Seems like all the comments are gone as well as the specs for teh parts.

If you run the Super Street make sure to get quality premium fuel. 93 is fine, but get it from a good station in your area.

It will really help with the heat also.


Man now I really want to go race! Damn you guys!

AARONSredTYPE-S

in regards to doing what it takes to gain a tenth at the track is not what im looking to do.
i am looking to perfect my driving in THIS car, and to keep it as i would be driving around town.
hell, i could just slap some race fuel in there and i would probably be there with ease too, but not what im trying to do...
super street is what i want, but not a race additive to my fuel...lol..
thanks very much though...everyone has been very informative

StreetKA

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I used the 100 or more octane fuel at the race track it did not make any differance.

CH46ESeaKnight

Likely would not on a otherwise stock NA with bolt ons engine with oem ecu maps.

It would be a good fuel to add that super street to as it oxygenates teh fuel.

Aaron, I hear ya. I was not sure what your actuall intentions were. I had already felt i knew what i could do anytime anywhere with my DD, and just started tinkering to see what I could squeeze out of it. Just something do do I guess.

AARONSredTYPE-S

true, thanks man

AARONSredTYPE-S

waiting till this Sunday. It wont be very nice outside, but a lot of cars go to the track on Sundays, so i will go for fun to see what other kills i can add to the belt...lol

AARONSredTYPE-S

didnt go Sunday, but i am for sure going tomorrow night.
Its gonna be around 75 and about 75% humidity..
wish me luck...

AARONSredTYPE-S

so it sucked at the track tonight. hot as hell even at 8pm it was 86 degrees.
well, i still cant beat a 14.2 and my mph is still very low, wtf can it be?
tires? mine are 225/45 falken ziex 912

my 60ft sucks ass, and i have major torque steer in 2nd and 3rd...
im really just at my last nerve with this. i put new exhaust on because i thought it was choking, but that didnt help a bit. also did the coolant bypass, and painted my inake with high temp paint.

98.7mph is as fast as it will go and i dont know why?
maybe i will get it dynoed to see if my car even has the right numbers unless somebody has an idea of whaat the problem is?

civicdrivr

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I said it before.

HEAT.

fuzzy02CLS

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Yes heat. My times suck too. And when it was actually in the 60's one time I had zero traction because the tires don't like to be cold.

I stopped going. I got fed up too. This isn't a track car. I wasn't going to kill it trying to get good 1/4 miles times with the FL weather the way it is. You need RWD & traction + power to get good times in this climate.
You got a 14.2, be happy with that.

richardparker

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Take off door panels,remove passenger seat,both rear seat cushions and center box,and go with less than a quarter of a tank on a cooler day and with "luck" maybe 14 flat. Still most likely 14.1
The weather is going to be horrible all weekend in the south.

AARONSredTYPE-S

yeah, i hear you guys.
my 60ft were horrible last night too.
i can tell my car has pretty good power, but it was upsetting to watch all the 13 second cars and then me still at 14.2...i mean, people have ran that in our cars in stock form, and i have headers, spacers, full exhaust, intake..but whatever

richardparker

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Might be selling my nitrous kit soon.
So I can buy some more engine goodies.
That would surely have you in the 13's. no problem

AARONSredTYPE-S

nah, id still probably run a 14.1 cause id be blowing the flippin tires off more than i do now....lol

lightweight wheels and good tires really needs to be my next mod, i just cant decide yet on what i want..17's or 18's..
then if i still have this car before the end of the year, i reeeeeally want a 3.5 swap.
with that, i know id be in the low 13's for sure because im confident in my driving...thanks man

richardparker

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I don't think you will get low 13's with a 3.5 build.
What's a 3.5's gain over 3.2 ? Maybe I'm wrong but I think it's around 30-40hp .
I know that's not going to equal a full second off your low 14 1/4 passes.

AARONSredTYPE-S

30 40 hp yes, and the same for torque as well which is a big thing. i have a cls, so with the 3.5 upgrade should be wonderful.
i wish someone like civic would go to the track so we can see some numbers..plus good wheels and tires have been proven to lower 2/3 tenths even on a stock car, which would have me in the 13's even a a hot humid day like i have here most of the time...