Give me some reasons NOT to buy an 03 CLS 6-Speed
12-07-2004, 12:42 PM
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Originally Posted by Chaptorial
It's not an auto.
Other then that its a great car.
Other then that its a great car.
one day chap, you will need to learn to drive "standard" (damn I hate to call it like that when it was "optional" in the CL)
12-07-2004, 03:18 PM
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CLS 6MT Navi
A few things my Legends had that I miss. The electronic/memory for steering wheel adjustments with tilt away, seat belt presenters, automatic door closers.
I don't like how you can not see the clock when the car is off. In my legend you could just push a button near the clock when the car was off and the clock display would light up. In my CL Navi dash, you can't see the clock til you turn on the car and wait for the Navi start up to cycle.
Picky yes, but convenience is great.
I don't like how you can not see the clock when the car is off. In my legend you could just push a button near the clock when the car was off and the clock display would light up. In my CL Navi dash, you can't see the clock til you turn on the car and wait for the Navi start up to cycle.
Picky yes, but convenience is great.
12-07-2004, 03:41 PM
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Can't really think of a good reason not to buy an 03 CLS 6MT. But I can tell you I still love driving my car after nearly 2 years; especially with all the CT goodies installed, etc...
Here are a few links to help you decide...
New pics of my 03 CLS (Anthracite) in motion
New pics (PART 2) of my 03 CLS (Anthracite) in motion
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Supercharger Dyno - CLS 6speed with CT I/SC/H/BP/E
Here are a few links to help you decide...
New pics of my 03 CLS (Anthracite) in motion
New pics (PART 2) of my 03 CLS (Anthracite) in motion
More Pics...
Supercharger Dyno - CLS 6speed with CT I/SC/H/BP/E
12-08-2004, 08:29 AM
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Originally Posted by SMR Type S
1. There are not many around, so people ask a lot of questions, like What kind of of car is that? Is it expensive?
2. It has a tendency to attract speeding tickets.
3. It looks so good, that it is a target for careless people, whether parked, or on the highway.
4. It is much quicker than it looks, so many other drivers get pissed, when you leave them in the dust at a traffic light.
5. Lead-footed drivers will have big bills for replacement tires, as the tires have a tendency to go up in smoke. (ther may be a recalll for smoking tires, I am not sure).
6. It is a very long walk to the shopping mall from the only safe parking spot.
7. People who spent much more money on a Mercedes or BMW will hate you. ( refer to answer #4).
8. Last, but not least, some CL owners, have experienced a rare and serious medical condition, called modificationaddiction, fortunately for me I have not experienced this problem.
I could go on and on, but I love my car, so I don't want to badmouth it.
BUY ONE!
2. It has a tendency to attract speeding tickets.
3. It looks so good, that it is a target for careless people, whether parked, or on the highway.
4. It is much quicker than it looks, so many other drivers get pissed, when you leave them in the dust at a traffic light.
5. Lead-footed drivers will have big bills for replacement tires, as the tires have a tendency to go up in smoke. (ther may be a recalll for smoking tires, I am not sure).
6. It is a very long walk to the shopping mall from the only safe parking spot.
7. People who spent much more money on a Mercedes or BMW will hate you. ( refer to answer #4).
8. Last, but not least, some CL owners, have experienced a rare and serious medical condition, called modificationaddiction, fortunately for me I have not experienced this problem.
I could go on and on, but I love my car, so I don't want to badmouth it.
BUY ONE!
Well, thanks again everyone. This is all great info. Since I live in a snowy climate I may wait until spring to buy (dont feel like shelling out for snow tires just yet) - but, I will post up if I pick one up, the CL-S is definately the way I'm leaning.
12-08-2004, 12:44 PM
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It's seems hit or miss sometimes as far as build quality is concerned...This car could be sweet, but the poor build quiality can kill things, you will notice new rattles and sqeeks everyday, more so in cold weather as everything contracts...Expect a lot of stuff to just plain break, bought the car new and the onstar did'nt work, and like the second time I used the lumbar support the handle just freaking broke off...Stock the handling is avg at best, stock tires are tough (can handle a beating and keep ticking) but not the greatest performance wise but good enough for normal driving, snow / wet tracktion is decent. As a used car for 19K or less I would go for it....Beware though the paint is lame, will scratch and chip easily, and becarefull where you park, car attracts dings and dents...
12-08-2004, 12:59 PM
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CLS 6MT Navi
I've had 2 03 CLS 6 speeds, build quality has been good to excellent. My 2nd car's sunroof glass squeaked and dealer but some tape on the surround, fixed it ok. I think the 01s squeaked more than the 03's, hasn't bee much of a problem for me. Brakes and paint could be better, not up to the overall quality of the car IMO.
12-08-2004, 01:11 PM
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stock height is way too high, wheel gap is enormous
sunroof barely slides back..it should go further
no fog lights
brakes could be better
my only gripes with the car..otherwise its almost perfect to me. Very fun and comfortable call overall.
Comfort=9.5 (and i am 6'2 tall)
Looks=8 (stock)
Performace=9
Value=10
stock height is way too high, wheel gap is enormous
sunroof barely slides back..it should go further
no fog lights
brakes could be better
my only gripes with the car..otherwise its almost perfect to me. Very fun and comfortable call overall.
Comfort=9.5 (and i am 6'2 tall)
Looks=8 (stock)
Performace=9
Value=10
12-08-2004, 06:00 PM
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you'll find that the quality of the car is VERY low by honda standards. i bought mine new and have been very disappointed. lots of anoying little things. they all add up. the paint is very poor. the engine seems fine, the clutch is a little quirky, lots of torque steer, the suspension is too stiff for me.
but like you i couldn't find any reasonable alternatives in the coupe market. this or the accord. the new accord just isn't as nice as the last generation. so i also ended up w/ the 6-speed. i'm just hoping it holds up until i can move on to a better quality car.
good luck.
but like you i couldn't find any reasonable alternatives in the coupe market. this or the accord. the new accord just isn't as nice as the last generation. so i also ended up w/ the 6-speed. i'm just hoping it holds up until i can move on to a better quality car.
good luck.
12-08-2004, 06:57 PM
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don't buy one. they suck!!! everything 
sorry
I just like to be "one of the few" if everyone else had my girlfriend, I just wouldn't like/appreciate her as much either....
12-08-2004, 11:01 PM
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Originally Posted by GreenMonster
That's the sport suspension. Maybe the CLP would be more to your liking. A CLS (the S stands for Sport) is not gonna ride like you mama's Camry 
12-09-2004, 12:36 AM
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Originally Posted by carquest
the engine seems fine, the clutch is a little quirky, lots of torque steer, the suspension is too stiff for me.
12-09-2004, 12:45 AM
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Originally Posted by carquest
you'll find that the quality of the car is VERY low by honda standards. i bought mine new and have been very disappointed. lots of anoying little things. they all add up. the paint is very poor. the engine seems fine, the clutch is a little quirky, lots of torque steer, the suspension is too stiff for me.
but like you i couldn't find any reasonable alternatives in the coupe market. this or the accord. the new accord just isn't as nice as the last generation. so i also ended up w/ the 6-speed. i'm just hoping it holds up until i can move on to a better quality car.
good luck.
but like you i couldn't find any reasonable alternatives in the coupe market. this or the accord. the new accord just isn't as nice as the last generation. so i also ended up w/ the 6-speed. i'm just hoping it holds up until i can move on to a better quality car.
good luck.
12-09-2004, 12:46 AM
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Originally Posted by mt6forlife
I think you're mistaking the LSD, which cancels out a lot of understeer, for torque steer. Suspension too stiff? Try even a moderatly lowered car (like the 04 TL with A Spec shocks & springs) or one with bigger wheels. The CL-S is hardly stiff by comparison. Maybe you need a Lincoln or Caddy.
Or a Lexus!
12-09-2004, 07:35 AM
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Originally Posted by Michiraces2much
Yeah I know, if I'm going to buy something that is supposed to be pretty much on luxury car standards, I want it to feel that way. Not like I'm riding in a go kart
I think a stock CLS isn't that bad, and it really is a happy mediium. Lowering it would probably make it more like a go cart (I'm still stock, but have been thinking about lowering).
I don't like the "floaty" feeling of some luxury cars, and the CLS actually does feel floaty at times, but not enough to bother me...
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