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12-14-2004, 08:30 PM
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You know the guy who is having his Accord built at Garage Kwai (9.0:1 pistons, blower, IC, etc) is having custom axles installed as well. I don't know how much or even if they could work with the CL-S6 but if they have the contacts to have the axles made it is a start. 700-800 hp is ALOT.
12-14-2004, 08:46 PM
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Originally Posted by darrinb
u cant even get traction with your current set up, i would figure that part out before you move on
Under daily driving conditions it might have about 50-80 more hp... its the potential that I care more about.
12-14-2004, 09:42 PM
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800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
12-14-2004, 09:49 PM
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Yes, its rear wheel drive with monster meats on the back. Capable of up to 1000hp @ 35-40 poumds of boost but the motor does not like the abuse. Its a closed deck block and the turbo is actually too large, switched to a smaller one in that pic and made better "managable" power.
12-14-2004, 09:54 PM
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What's the displacement? Did you blow up a block at 1000hp? Do you know any further details such as the compression ratio, bore, stroke, type of pistons, rods etc.?
12-14-2004, 10:03 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
12-14-2004, 10:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
Um yea...
12-14-2004, 10:26 PM
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9.0:1 should be about right for 15-20 psi. 9.5:1 might be pushing it. So somewhere in that range i'd think would be optimal. I think the head gasket is the weak link when you start bumping the boost beyond 10psi. Hard to hold all that boost in an engine designed for a 10.5:1 CR without boost.
12-14-2004, 10:43 PM
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The factory gasket will hold 15psi or even 20psi as long as everything is assembled properly. Remember that 9.0:1 static compression reduces cylinder-pressure somewhat but the boost will keep the air flowing quite well.
A well-built 9.0:1 motor will handle 15psi on a daily-basis even on 91-octane. That could translate to about 500whp on a stroker motor.
A well-built 9.0:1 motor will handle 15psi on a daily-basis even on 91-octane. That could translate to about 500whp on a stroker motor.
12-14-2004, 10:47 PM
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Just picture the Supra TT... those things can put 800whp on the factory motor! Then take all the EVO's out there... several of them (2.0L, mind you) are making 500hp very easily. So... what would a J37A2 make w/ VTEC
12-14-2004, 11:07 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
12-15-2004, 04:47 AM
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Originally Posted by mrsteve
You know the guy who is having his Accord built at Garage Kwai (9.0:1 pistons, blower, IC, etc) is having custom axles installed as well. I don't know how much or even if they could work with the CL-S6 but if they have the contacts to have the axles made it is a start. 700-800 hp is ALOT.
12-15-2004, 04:52 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
800 hp is possible out of a Acura CL-S 3.2L motor. But your gonna' need a monster turbo and a real transmission and ditch the whole front wheel-drive idea.
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
Were testing ours right now.
http://home.earthlink.net/~twc9376675059/
http://briefcase.yahoo.com/trlloyd4444
12-15-2004, 09:09 AM
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The engine was built for us from a reputable engine builder in Indiana who has built several Gran-National motors in the past for Pro-Stock cars. The stroke is stock but the block was sleeved and decked. The turbo was built & modified by Turbonetics (dont remember the size). Running JE pistons 89mm bore, Crowler forged rods and "Big-Stuff" stand-alone fuel management. Beleive it or not, it still has the stock cams in it as well. It doesnt like the 30+ pounds of boost but were working on that. Last time out we burnt a hole in a piston the size of a silver dollar due to boost pressure and heat. New motor is in and should be back on the dyno late January.
This project is being done by Honda of America up here in Anna, Ohio. We started a drag-team this year and are attempting to get this monster to the track this year coming up.
Sorry if Im not too detaield on particular items but I cant release too much info at this time.
Hope you guys enjoyed the pics.
Oh...
The aluminum riser in the pic underneith the intake manifold is to get the throttle body (which is in the back) aimed up high enough to get to the heat-exchanger in the car which is positioned beside the drivers seat. (gets pretty warm in there).
This project is being done by Honda of America up here in Anna, Ohio. We started a drag-team this year and are attempting to get this monster to the track this year coming up.
Sorry if Im not too detaield on particular items but I cant release too much info at this time.
Hope you guys enjoyed the pics.
Oh...
The aluminum riser in the pic underneith the intake manifold is to get the throttle body (which is in the back) aimed up high enough to get to the heat-exchanger in the car which is positioned beside the drivers seat. (gets pretty warm in there).
12-15-2004, 09:46 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
Its a Honda Civic fiberglass body, 3.2L CL-S motor turned 90° and rear-wheel-drive.
Wow. Where there's a will, there's a way.
12-15-2004, 09:49 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
This project is being done by Honda of America up here in Anna, Ohio. We started a drag-team this year and are attempting to get this monster to the track this year coming up.
quiet possibly the most important information you could've given............
HAC/AAC doing the R&D on possible turbo application for the the Acura line?
12-15-2004, 10:09 AM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
No. This turbo-setup is for racing only. All parts for the turbo are from outside companies made specificaly for racing.
sure.....but still
cool factor
12-15-2004, 10:30 AM
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With that much money into the race-car I can't imagine why you wouldn't thermo-coat the piston (some kind of thermal barrier coating) which is a very common practice now.
Anyways... very nice car and good project - I see a belt-driven oil-pump up there, correct?
Building a custom-car gives a lot of freedom... sticking to a street-driven full-chassis car with A/C, Nav, Airbags, leather, etc. is a different type of a challenge.
Anyways... very nice car and good project - I see a belt-driven oil-pump up there, correct?
Building a custom-car gives a lot of freedom... sticking to a street-driven full-chassis car with A/C, Nav, Airbags, leather, etc. is a different type of a challenge.
12-15-2004, 10:37 AM
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Originally Posted by kHmER Co
wow. ram can't touch that. and out of nowhere
Any information about any racecar is most welcome here, IMO; and its not a competition. It that individual wanted to build a street-car, I am sure he would. If I wanted to build a racecar, I would do that quite well actually!
12-15-2004, 12:51 PM
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Originally Posted by BlueByYou
The engine was built for us from a reputable engine builder in Indiana who has built several Gran-National motors in the past for Pro-Stock cars. The stroke is stock but the block was sleeved and decked. The turbo was built & modified by Turbonetics (dont remember the size). Running JE pistons 89mm bore, Crowler forged rods and "Big-Stuff" stand-alone fuel management. Beleive it or not, it still has the stock cams in it as well. It doesnt like the 30+ pounds of boost but were working on that. Last time out we burnt a hole in a piston the size of a silver dollar due to boost pressure and heat. New motor is in and should be back on the dyno late January.
This project is being done by Honda of America up here in Anna, Ohio. We started a drag-team this year and are attempting to get this monster to the track this year coming up.
Sorry if Im not too detaield on particular items but I cant release too much info at this time.
Hope you guys enjoyed the pics.
Oh...
The aluminum riser in the pic underneith the intake manifold is to get the throttle body (which is in the back) aimed up high enough to get to the heat-exchanger in the car which is positioned beside the drivers seat. (gets pretty warm in there).
This project is being done by Honda of America up here in Anna, Ohio. We started a drag-team this year and are attempting to get this monster to the track this year coming up.
Sorry if Im not too detaield on particular items but I cant release too much info at this time.
Hope you guys enjoyed the pics.
Oh...
The aluminum riser in the pic underneith the intake manifold is to get the throttle body (which is in the back) aimed up high enough to get to the heat-exchanger in the car which is positioned beside the drivers seat. (gets pretty warm in there).
12-15-2004, 01:36 PM
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COME AT ME BRO!
damm that motor is sick. what pulleys are those in the pics. and how hard was it to get a tranny to mate up with the engine sideways?
12-15-2004, 03:27 PM
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How did you modify the oil pick-up because with the motor now torquing from the front to the back... and the factory pick-up is up front (near the pulleys), the motor might starve for oil. Custom oil-pan and pick-up?
12-15-2004, 03:50 PM
#79
COME AT ME BRO!
it had to be. i think just about everything on that motor is custom. just like yours ram. i hate all 3 of you guys (allmotor blue cls6 and bluebyyou) . damm turbo cl-ses..