I just got back from getting my car dynoed before i get the intake and headers on tomm or the next day. I was pulling 207hp @7100rpms(3rd gear) Not bad i guess. Torque was only at 187. U guys shold have been there, when the hood was open. When V-Tech kicked in at like 130, LOUD AS HELL! also sounded good when it was red lined in 3rd gear. Thats all.

Nick

 

how much was it

 

You have got one fast CL-S. Stock Dyno I saw are at 197-198 HP and almost same torque.

You are lucky. with headers you would be 229 easily. I guess wth CAI, you 5HP accross the board.

Keep us informed.


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Black, Ebony, 3.2 CL Type-S.
- Acura NAV.
- 3M clear bra (full front bumper, and side mirros)
- Wheels locks.
- Mooonroof visor
- Splash guards,
- Winter mats,
- Trunk liner,
- Acura Spoiler.
- Valentine V1 Radar Locator.
- PIAA 19169 road lamps.

 

Pretty good. That makes only 20-21% loss to the wheels. Not bad.

 

It only set me back $45 dollars. Thats what people have been telling me, that I have one of those FAST CLS's. I will be very curious to see exactly how much more power i get w/ both new items!!!!

Nick

 

Now do you believe what I was saying yesterday. About how some cars come faster from the factory than others?

 

I guess, I have not seen any others post there stock dyno results. But if people say mines faster, then thats way tight.

Nick

 

Nice! Yours is far and away the strongest dyno we've seen yet.

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2001 Satin Silver Cl Type S.
Comptech:Headers, Springs & Sways
AEM CAI
Muds
Wheel locks
35% Llumar metallic tint
My Car

 

Shit dude, I need to dyno mine and see if its a fast or a slow one ;0



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2001 Acura 3.2 CL Type-S
Comptech Springs
Apexi V-AFC
AEM CAI

 

Any1 have results from headers and intake dyno?

Nick

 

Are you going to post your dyno. I talked to a guy in the valley that would charge $50 and $10 a pull (after the 1st), but was booked up for 2 weeks and then moving to Reseda. Geez, lots of car hot rodding going on.

The guy said they could print out a dyno graph (WinPep) and also the values in table form.

That run is amazing, since the stock Comptech dyno run has the car making somewhere around 200 hp at 6800.

Are your rims stock?
How many miles on the engine and what motor oil are you using?


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2001 Satin Silver Cl-S w/ NAVI

• Mud Guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1S Proxies on Stock 17" CLS wheels
• Gtech 1/8th tank 40F ~=6.1
• Zaino magic
• 14.8lb 17x8" SSR Competition rims on the way
• Sways, headers, CAI comming soon

 

I am running stock rims and tires. The only thing i have changed is the oil, I have mobil 1 5-30. I have 4000 miles. Also, i beat the shit out of it durring the break in period.

Nick

 

When (at what mileage) did you dump the Acura break-in oil and go to the Mobil 1 (my favorite oil)?

Thanks in advance

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2001 Satin Silver Cl-S w/ NAVI

• Mud Guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1S Proxies on Stock 17" CLS wheels
• Gtech 1/8th tank 40F ~=6.1
• Zaino magic
• 14.8lb 17x8" SSR Competition rims on the way
• Sways, headers, CAI comming soon

[This message has been edited by EricL (edited 03-13-2001).]

 

I hope I've got that rabbit rather than the turtle one...

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Silver 01' Type-S w/all the trimmins
Acura loyalty
retired a 2000 TL and a 94' Acura Legend Coupe
Comptech Springs, axle-back exhaust,headers
AEM CAI
yellow bumper (fog lights) bulbs
Clear Headlights

 

I put the oil in only 2 days ago. And i just got a spoiler which looks way tight.

Nick

 

SOO? is there any1 out there w/ dyno results w/ intake and headers????

Nick

 

Ah, that's why huh? damn it ! you cheated with your faster car.

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2001 Acura CL Type-S. Blk/Blk w/Navi, Spoiler, AEM Cold Air Intake, All Season Floor Mats, Mahogany Shift Knob, Mud Guards, PIAA Super Plasma High Beams, PIAA 19169 Platinum Super White Wedge Bulbs, 10%/5% Tints.


[This message has been edited by rurofan (edited 03-14-2001).]

 

Search for " BeatYaAll dyno" It was one of the few first post on this site.

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CL-S
White/Ebony/Navi/Spoiler/Visor/Full Bra/Mud Guards/Cargo Net/Acura Car Cover/Tint 20%,35%,5% on Sun Roof, Rockford 250a2 Amp w/JL10w6 / K&N Drop in Filter. Comptech Springs. Polarg m-6.
Comptech Headers, Comptech Sways, Eurolite Xenon Crystal high beams.
AEM CAI once they decide to make the dame thing.
235/40/17's or 225/45/17's once I found out which one works for me.

gtech 0-60 6.03 w/ 438 pound load. preheader.

 

Some people say that a car will be faster if it is broken in that way. Drive fast during the break in and she'll be faster, I don't know why. Could be an urban tale?

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2001 Silver 3.2CLS
-Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Prolarg M-6 lamps
Planning: Comptech Headers, Sways, CAI

 

I'm on my 3rd CL-S demo, and I can tell you , there is a difference between them from the factory. All are fast, but I could tell the difference between them. I'm due for a new demo soon and will be taking a TL-S just for the comparison. Should be interesting!

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Wayne Gruen
Service Manager
Park Ave Acura

 

[quote]I was pulling 207hp @7100rpms(3rd gear) Not bad i guess. Torque was only at 187[/quote


Isn't Fuel cutoff 7000?

 

nope i get mine wayyyy past the redline before the fuel cuts off not that often though...

[quote]<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by F=ma:

Quote:

I was pulling 207hp @7100rpms(3rd gear) Not bad i guess. Torque was only at 187[/quote


Isn't Fuel cutoff 7000?

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Black 2001 Type S
*Xephyr Cold Air Intake
*PIAA 19169 Road Lamps
*Acura Winter Mats
*Mudguards
*Mobile 1 Synthetic
*Rockford 500a2
*Pioneer 12" @ 400w (x2)
---Still 2 rims not scratched---

 

NO one has mentioned 'which' tachometer they are using when they say "fuel cutoff is at 7300 rpm". Presumably it is always the one in the car.

I doubt the one in the car is real accurate. A 3% error at 7000 is 210 rpm either way.
My tach shows 72/7300 rpm when she starts stuttering.

Our tach 'appliques' could have the same 'position' issues that the speedo appliques did/do have. I'm sure some of the old timers here will remember the early forums (eg. h-a.net) where there was so much talk regarding the speedo's accuracy.

Mine shows about 1 mph slow consistently across the board. The applique looks to be about '1 mph' off (if you think of it as a clock/wheel face) when you check how parallel the upper edge of the odo/trip numbers 'window' on the applique is to the actual numbers that show when the key is on. My 'edge' dips a bit on the left end.

The actual odo miles seem accurate (based on mile markers on the interstate) but NO one around here will admit to a true MEASURED mile being anywhere.

I'd like to see a PRECISION tach reading from a dyno run. A statement from Acura on the accuracy of the tach would be a bonus as well.

 

Well, the fuel cutoff is supposed to be 7300 rpm, but a more interesting question is the stock type S is supposed to have peak hp at 6600rpm. WHy would his peak be at 7100rpm? Or does hp peak at different levels depending on whether or not you dyno at the crank or wheels??

Hey Nick.... any chance you can scan that dyno so we can have a look-see???

 

I think all of this could get cleared up with a picture of the dyno graph. The Comptech dyno shows the stock peak being at a lower RPM, but the HP (from Comptech at that lower speed is 208HP @ (6000 and 6200 rpm). They stop their dyno at 6800 where the hp looks to level out at 200 hp.

While the 207 is great news, it is with in 5% of the Comptech reading.

Another thought, was the result SAE corrected? Even if it wasn't, I think our computer's do a bit of adjusting. Witness Mikes dyno runs, where even WITH a SAE correction the car made more power with every run.

A thought here (just some conjecture, before I get killed): One would think that a thinner oil/hotter oil would reduce oil pumping and "shear" losses. At the same time if the engine was hot, but the air it was getting (enough fans or cold air) at front of car in dyno setting, could alter settings.

(Sorry, I should compose that a bit better.)

Finally, that old story about breaking in cars hard and fast. I know people who say that is what they do and always have a fast car. But don't forget, there will always be a trade off between a "loose" engine that doesn't last too long and a "tight" engine that looses a few ponies and lasts a very long time. Perhaps, some middle ground is possible.


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2001 Satin Silver Cl-S w/ NAVI

• Mud Guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1S Proxies on Stock 17" CLS wheels
• Gtech 1/8th tank 40F ~=6.1
• Zaino magic
• 14.8lb 17x8" SSR Competition rims on the way
• Sways, headers, CAI comming soon

 

Have you ever seen the way these cars are driven? I knew a car dealer owner and they used to call their "demos", "demolish-straight-ors"

I asked the Acura dealer why there were selling cars "as new", that were being driven around "as demos". The salesperson, said, "As long as we don't put more than xxx miles on them, they are considered new". (Sorry, I forgot the # of miles, but one of the cars they tried to sell me as new, had more than 300 miles on it.)

Needless to say, I got mine "off the truck", with 6 miles on it.




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2001 Satin Silver Cl-S w/ NAVI

• Mud Guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1S Proxies on Stock 17" CLS wheels
• Gtech 1/8th tank 40F ~=6.1
• Zaino magic
• 14.8lb 17x8" SSR Competition rims on the way
• Sways, headers, CAI comming soon

 

20% loss in power from crank to wheels in auto trans form, 18% power loss for a manual, FYI..
Ed

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'99 TL Satin Silver/Ebony, Non/Nav, Comptech lowered, Comptech Air Filter Element, Inspire Tails, AEM Brake Pads all around, Comptech Axle Back Exhaust, "Guy Smiley" doll on the dash as my Co-driver... Pics of my TL
Pics of my Miata! Wadya think?

 

Sorry guys, I realized that it did peak at around 6800 not 7100(very sorry) What i ment to say was that I had the guy take it to 7100. But even at 7100 it was 198hp or 200hp, not bad i guess? Sorry for the confussion. This is my first time owning a car and dealing w/ hp. Before this all I owned was a truck, and my main concern then was how high can i lift it. Still getting used to the car scene.

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Nick
01' Cl-S Silver/ Black W/ Navi
V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, and AEM CAI
I've got one of CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot

 

Hey, we are all human. Anyway, let us know if you do get the print out. It would be nice to have one more for reference purposes.



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2001 Satin Silver Cl-S w/ NAVI

• Mud Guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1S Proxies on Stock 17" CLS wheels
• Gtech 1/8th tank 40F ~=6.1
• Zaino magic
• 14.8lb 17x8" SSR Competition rims on the way
• Sways, headers, CAI comming soon

 

Well your 20% observation seems to match the Acura and Computech data:

260HP - (260HP * .20) = 208 HP



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2001 Satin Silver Cl-S w/ NAVI

• Mud Guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1S Proxies on Stock 17" CLS wheels
• Gtech 1/8th tank 40F ~=6.1
• Zaino magic
• 14.8lb 17x8" SSR Competition rims on the way
• Sways, headers, CAI comming soon

 

208@ the wheels is really not that bad at all.
Does anybody know what the Nissan Maxima and IS300 numbers are at the wheels?

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2001 CL-S
Black/Black
Moonroof Visor
35% Tint All Around
Black Wood Dash Kit
Currently on TL rims with Nokian Winter Tires
My Bitch

 

Wow, good dyno Another question though, is what gear is other people dynoing their cars? Many other cars are dynoed in 4th gear as standard.

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Chris K.

 

If you are asking, "what gear are other people using to dyno their Acura Cl Type S", then I beleive the answer is 3rd gear. I can't guarantee that every one used 3rd gear, but the DynoJet dynos I know of have been done in 3rd gear.

I don't know what gear is used in the case of the Lexus and the Nissan. Perhaps, one the members in those forums whould be happy to assist.



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2001 Satin Silver Cl-S w/ NAVI

• Mud Guards
• Wheel locks
• Toyo 235/45ZR17-97W* T1S Proxies on Stock 17" CLS wheels
• Gtech 1/8th tank 40F ~=6.1
• Zaino magic
• 14.8lb 17x8" SSR Competition rims on the way
• Sways, headers, CAI comming soon

 

I had no car in particualr in mind. I just keep hearing other so called car gurus like the Camaro, Mustang, Corvette guys, and some other import guys say they dyno in 4th, as that is suppossed to be a more standard "rule" sort of speak.
I guess the theory is that most people drive in 4th, rather then 3rd gear most of the time, so they want to see what power they make there. I was just curious to know, that's all.


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Chris K.

 

Wayne any idea why? Are you treating them the same as concerns fuel and such. Just looking for an inch.

Btw I'm all for breaking them in fast. Did it with most of my sports cars and I never had a problem keeping up with or beating other same model cars. But I've only been doing this since the 70's.



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"01" CL Type-S
White\Black
Comptech Springs
Comptech Sways
Navigation System
Burlwood Shifter
Guards+Fenderwell Trim
PIAA16969
Smokers Package
My Car