Dyno: Be Afraid, Very Afraid!

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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 06:39 PM
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Dyno: Be Afraid, Very Afraid!

You get a cookie if you can tell me which car this dyno came from.
1) The car is stock.
2) It has a 5spd transmission.
3) Its a 2001 model year.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 06:45 PM
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Is it euro, japanese, or american car?
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 06:46 PM
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It's a 3 series BMW right
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 06:47 PM
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i wouldn't be surprised if it was a stock type s.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 06:49 PM
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I clicked the pic properties and it came from e46fanatics sites..
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 07:04 PM
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Originally posted by 4thGSi
I clicked the pic properties and it came from e46fanatics sites..
Hehe, somebody was smart!

Yea its a 3 series BMW.
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 07:07 PM
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Originally posted by BNut

Hehe, somebody was smart!

Yea its a 3 series BMW.
330i manual....Give me my cookie
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Old Apr 30, 2002 | 09:46 PM
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Soooo.... why should we be afraid?? Same HP, and a little more Torque than an A5 CL-S???

Wait until we see a 6 speed dyno... you should compare Manual vs. Manual right??

I'm not afraid!
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Old May 1, 2002 | 07:28 AM
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Damn, I was gonna guess the altima.

It's a nice curve, though. Does look an awful lot like ours.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 07:57 AM
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I've always been impressed with the transmission efficiency on BMW 328/330s. The ZF unit is very good.

This car has a 11.3% hp loss and only a 6% torque loss to the wheels. Not bad. I wonder if a UUC flywheel would improve that
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Old May 1, 2002 | 09:53 AM
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It has at least 15 lbft of more torque but the redline is lower than Type-S, So, if we add a only RES-like mod.... we will look better

But add CAI, RES and Headers we would look way better
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Old May 1, 2002 | 09:54 AM
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Originally posted by Nashua_Night_Hawk
It has at least 15 lbft of more torque but the redline is lower than Type-S, So, if we add a only RES-like mod.... we will look better

But add CAI, RES and Headers we would look way better
True.. but that dyno is for stock, so we should be comparing stock... we need to do manual vs. manual though
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Old May 1, 2002 | 10:19 AM
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Is the transmission really that efficient or could it be that BMW is under rating their engines?

Take the S2000 for example. Is their ANY reason why Honda would put a crappy manual in that car? When is the last time you saw a stock S2000 dyno 210hp at the wheels? The stock S2000 dyno charts (dyno jet) I remember seeing were b/w 195-205hp.

I just find it amazing that an engine rated for 225 is putting down right at 200hp at the wheels.

Now lets get some 6spd CL-S's dyno'd so we can have a good comparison!
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Old May 1, 2002 | 10:45 AM
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Originally posted by BNut
Is the transmission really that efficient or could it be that BMW is under rating their engines?

The motors are either all underrated, or the trasmissions really are that efficient. Some have speculated that they are underrated, they do all feel very strong.

Take this for example:



This is a 2000 328Ci, top line is CAI, bottom is stock. The 328s have the same transmission as 330s.

Stock, this car has a loss of 10.3% hp and 8.7% torque. Not bad at all.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 03:44 PM
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Wow... that's pretty nice for a 328!

I wonder what is happening at 4,000 rpms in the BMW engine.

I've notice that dip occurs about the same RPM on both the 330 and the 328.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 04:51 PM
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Originally posted by BNut
Wow... that's pretty nice for a 328!

I wonder what is happening at 4,000 rpms in the BMW engine.

I've notice that dip occurs about the same RPM on both the 330 and the 328.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 05:39 PM
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Wow... that's pretty nice for a 328!

I wonder what is happening at 4,000 rpms in the BMW engine.

I've notice that dip occurs about the same RPM on both the 330 and the 328.
I hear that the software retards timing at 4K because the California emissions test is at 4K rpms...

But, the 2.8L and 3L BMW I-6s are very torquey and have a very smooth powerband.
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Old May 1, 2002 | 06:11 PM
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Eh, 3-series BMW's do nothing for me. They're too small, but they're damn quick, no doubt.

I sort of wish Acura made an I-6.
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Old May 2, 2002 | 08:42 AM
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Originally posted by someguy
I hear that the software retards timing at 4K because the California emissions test is at 4K rpms...

But, the 2.8L and 3L BMW I-6s are very torquey and have a very smooth powerband.
I wouldn't be suprised. My cousins husband is a motorcyle nut and he was showing me a spread from some sports bike magazine that had dyno's of about 20-30 different bikes. EVERY bike had this funky dip in the dyno curve at the same RPM so I was asking him about it, and he explained that was the RPM at which the bikes were tested at for emissions.

Go figure...
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