Im serious my girl even said (just between me and you)looks better than my you know what. Damn I am impressed and I usually don't give props to other name cars pro-Acura you know what Im saying. Let me know when you heading to E-town cause Im going March 8 don't worry we wont race I just want to see that beast in person. You never know I might just stray a little. Nice ride tho I was expecting somethin different like more plain I like the contrast cause no other car except Porsche does interior contrast leather. oh maybe the M3

 

actually i did mean it when i said the car has a soft pannels and bumpers. i washed both my dads Z and my cl-s today and there is a noticable difference between the 2 cars. my cl-s felt a lot more solid and didnt feel flimsy when i was wiping the car. the Z felt like everytime i put any pressure on the body, it would cave in.

also this pro paint and body guy told me that both honda and nissian uses pretty soft urethane material that it is why they chip and peel so easily. He said the paint does not stick well on our cars and nissians were the worst! reason is because to reduce weight and cost.

i have noticed that most of the bigger chips are located right under the headlight...

sidemarker

 

Why is it that some of you act like that the few of us that have gone the way of the Z never even owned a CL? I did, for two years. You know what I remember about my CL-S's interior... oh, that's right, I've COMPLETELY forgotten about my CL-S because of my Z.

An interior is an interior. Some may be better designed than others, but it's all the same PLASTIC. I guarantee from personal experience the my Acura leather was MUCH cheaper compared to my still inferior (read: non-German) Z leather.

If you get your kicks from telling yourself how wonderful and luxurious your $32K interior is, then fine. You will NEVER know the thrill of kicking your tail-end out in a full-on powerslide like I will in my Z. THAT is what makes me forget about even owning the CL-S.

This bitch has a presence that my CL-S NEVER had, even in the killer, Sundance Gold (that I still love) paint job.

 

i bet if you get back into your cl-s you will miss the following:

seats
ride quality
stereo
quiet cabin

i just got back from SA to Austin in my cl-s and eventhough i drove the Z this weekend i realize that both cl-s and Z are completely different cars!!!! they are both worth the price and bottom line you get what you pay for!

performance=Z

touch of everything=CL-S

sidemarker

 

29k for a g35c with brembo brakes???

show me where and i will sign the paper work!

the cheapest ive seen it was 36k!!!!!!

sidemarker

 

1. Seats - Nope. Z seats are tighter than the CL-S.
2. Ride Quality - You mean "floaty". Yeah, I miss that. I'm going even STIFFER with a full NISMO S-Tune suspension kit w/sways.
3. Stereo - OK, I'll give you that. The stereo "upgrade" I paid for is a pathetic piece of shit. I'm still fighting Nissan on that one.
4. Quiet cabin - Who gives a fuck? It's a SPORTS car. The CL-S was no Lexus LS430.

"touch of everything=CL-S" except for RWD and actual track proven performance, huh?

 

LMAO....a G35C 6spd for 29k...lol yea i woudnt buy a Z either

Now why would anyone listen to what you say now after saying a G35C 6pd w/ brembo is 29k

 

You really can't compare appples and oranges directly. I think Sidemarker's point (not that I agree with everything he said) was the CLS had some very comfortable aspects that you would be hard pressed to find in a sports car like the Z. As for the seats, the side bolstering wasn't as good for holding you in as the Z's, but was definitely more comfortable than the Z IMO, along with having an adjustable lumbar. The stock suspension is softer on the CLS, and therefore the Z is louder inside ( also due to the 18's)and has a rougher ride. I would say the CLS is a more comfortable commuter car, and the Z is a better sports car but to compare each directly and say that one is 'better' than the other is impossible; they're two diff. cars designed with 2 different purposes in mind. The Z is a purpose built sports car, while the CL is a more comfortable every day driver/touring coupe with some respectable performance aspects built in. Both cars have trade offs due to their intended purpose. I was looking for a pure sports car, and that's what I got with the Z.

 

The base Z is $26,809 MSRP. Other than leather, the interior does not get any better than a 27k car. What do you people expect? The last gen NA Z cost more than that 7 years ago. Let alone the 42k twin turbo. At MSRP the 350Z is a great deal. IMHO the touring is overpriced, to close to a g35c.

 

Ummm. I've had a 96 240SX and now a 03 G35c. Let me count the problems I've had....

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My wife's 99 Honda, on the other hand, has already cost us about 1,000 extra dollars for a bad ABS and bad gas gauge.

But I'm sure I'm the exception, right? That tranny problem of Honda's is just a fluke, right?

I'm not saying Honda's are garbage, but come on, are they that far above any auto maker in terms of quality at this point?

 

Sorry but it was 29k for the one I saw at the dealer. It had everything. That was the asking price.

Were you there? didn't think so.

The Z doesn't have any more power than the G35 does. Dyno Proven.

 

I am not kidding man. Me and my friend looked at the cars in the parking lot walking around and this one was labeled that.

Even the dealer said the 6spd 4 door would be 28k.

www.gunnauto.com under Infiniti. They are the ones who sell them here.

 

1) I sat in the Z, and hte CL-S seats are more supportive. I doubt a manufacutre can beat Recaro seats that are stock in the CL-S.

 

Like I said, call the dealer.

www.gunnauto.com

This was 2-3 months ago it was marked for that.

Even though they are out of coupes again, but the lowest sedan is 30k.

 

Lets see here. There are MANY build quality problems since 1995 that Nissan got cheap on. Too many to list on every car. So I won't. The G35 has cheap materials compared to its competition. It may not have problems right now, but its not built with the best quality stuff.

 

Recaros, huh? I guess I didn't get those in my '01. Do you have a brain tumor, or do you always pull shit out of your ass? You haven't changed a bit.

 

The CL-S is a comfortable commuter/traveling car, I'll give it that, but to say that it is a better overall car (as some of our a-cl brethren like to contend) with a few tradeoffs is horseshit. No matter how fast you can make it via FI, it will still be a FWD GT coupe masquerading as a sports car.

I suspect you switched for the exact reasons I did. You got tired of playing "sports car" in the CL instead of actually owning one.

 

All TYPE-S CL-S, RSX, S2000, seats are made by Recaro.

I pull facts dumbass newbie. Look under your seat on the rails. It says Recaro, oh but you don;'t have the car thats right. Then leave Troll.

 

Lets see here...

CL-S has nav, heated seats, heated side mirrors, a rear seat and room for storage in the rear. Oh yeah, it seats them comfortably, and has better resale.

Z has only got better power by a hair, and defintely better handling. But thats all its got over the CL-S. The CL-S handles and has awesome power with all the other features included. Overall its a better car for the consumer. The Z is a good car for the person looking only into performance.

 

Dumbass newbie? Look at my registration date, jackass. I bought my CL-S in April of 2000 and sold it two years later.

I don't know who says crazier shit, you or Mike Tyson? :P

 

If that’s true it news to me.
And I thought I knew my car pretty good.

Shawn S

 

I was looking at the other user. Sorry. Anyways, you are wrong about the seats.

 

Go look at some Recaro seats. You will see them designed VERY CLOSE to ours. If you don't feel like looking under your seat. They are made by Recaro. Do you know of any other seat that supports you as well as the factory ones on our car that aren't recaro? Not really.

 

Can I just call you "Crazy Eddie"? Better resale MY FUCKING ASS. Resale between the two cars will be about the same with an edge to the Z being easier to get out of. My $34K OTD '01 CL-S was worth $21K when I sold it with 28K miles.

The Z also has nav, heated seats and heated side mirrors, or did you miss that in your extensive research? Give up, clown.

 

No, Nissan/Infinitis have never had good resale. So get that through your thick head. The Acuras will always have better resale. I got 24k on my CL-S after 1 year and 14000 miles. And I bought it for 27k. 24k was trade in as well. I have owned many Nissans in the past, and The Maxima is the car that would be the most resale value in the line up to hold its value, and it loses 12k the 1st year off its PRICE!

34k for a CL-S, you got ripped my friend.

 

$34k? Got your ass handed to you...

 

Do you people know what the fuck OTD means? Out the door, as in including TT&L. Bought in April of 2000, ONE MONTH after they came out.

 

Out the DOOR for mine was 28k. Total.

So its still not 34k.

34k you got ripped off. Just admit it, you got screwed on the deal and you can't blame the car for resale when it was you that screwed up.

 

When did you buy your car? Month and year please. Notice that I said I bought mine in APRIL of 2000. Do you know when that was? Right when they started to hit the lots. I paid for the right to be an early adopter. I except that.

Don't even give me this bullshit about re-sale. Do a fucking search on re-sale going back to late 2000/early 2001 for ALL of the posts about shitty re-sale.

 

OK, not to add anymore fuel to the fire, but shouldn't resale be based on what the STICKER of the car was, not OTD or what you personally paid?

You have to keep things consistent; i.e. price, when talking about resale. Unless you want to add another resale category, that being "personal resale".

Unless to drive a fuggin' Ferrari, you're gonna take a hit in ANY car if you sell it in the first year or two. Bitchin about resale in a couple more years, when these cars have been around longer.

 

I am 6 foot tall and had no problem sitting in it, I thought it was comfortable. I love the way the seats feel and the shifter placement/shifting.

 

And weren't you driving an '02 SilverBullet where as droideka drove an '01. That would account for a difference in trade in price as well...

 

Oh, 2002 January.

And guess what, they have been selling them for 29k when new too. So whats the problem? 34k? hahahah I would never pay that.

Just admit, you got screwed.

You haven't seen bad resale till you try to sell your Nissan.

 

You are correct. I think mine stickered around $32,400.

I wasn't bitching about the re-sale on the CL-S considering what a notorious POS rep it had at the time with failing trannies. Rather I was just getting on Silverbullet's case about his bullshit rationale that the CL will have MUCH HIGHER re-sale than the Z.

People are foaming at the mouth to pick up a pre-owned Z. Can the same be said for a CL?

 

I know... I'm on your side.

My comment was directed more towards SB and his comment about you getting screwed.

 

:P

 

You bought your car in Jan 2002? Are you terminally stupid, or just incapable of logical thought? I bought in April of 2000, you goddamned dolt! When the CL-S came out in March 2000 there was NOT a lot of negotiation room if any.

Do a poll of members who bought at the same time I did and you will see that price range across the board.

 

 

Lets see here..

Maxima fully loaded, 27-28k, 1 year later worth 15k.

Altima 18k new 2001 version, 1 year later, 9k.

Sorry but Nissans Resale sucks and your Z will also. The CL has a better resale than Nissna period. It may not be the best on Acuras scale, but its still better.

 

resale value :whocares:

I bought my car to drive it, not sell it.