deadlyCL-S

ok guys, yeah even better,

our CL-S also beats an S500

oh boy.

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Acura 2001 CL Type S, (black on black)
Acura 1996 CL (bronze on stove)

mrdeeno

pgatour1,

i agree with you 100%...it's neither one or the other, but both and even that's a guesstimate.

certain car's on deadly's list will beat us 90% of the time with drivers who SUCK, but unless he's raced every single one of those cars like 5 times each for statistical accuracy (including every v8 mercedes has to offer), then it's as bad as basing which car is going to win directly out of your monthly motortrend/car&driver/etc.

Red Rider

Wrong on the 328 auto.Motor Trend had it at 7.1 compared to the CL-S at 6.4.A previous test in the september issue of the $42,230 328i sport was 6.9
i KNOW,more mag racing,but these are numbers from the same magazine.If you're gonna compare you've at least got to go with the same source.
I'll be more concerned with the 330.

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pgatour1

Thank you, And that is the point everyone is missing. That is the only way we can compare cars. And it is pretty accurate. More accurate than the various varities of drivers you will find on the road.

H@mmerm@n

Hey, Glenn...what are you doing sitting at home magazine racing when you could be out driving? j/k

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Mike
2001 Satin Silver CL-S
Comptech headers, exhaust, sways
AEM CAI (Red)
PIAA 19169 road lamps
Member of NO SCRATCHED RIMS club!

"Never underestimate the power of a dark CLown!" - Darph Bobo

pgatour1

Yeah I have read those numbers too. I was giving Bimmer drivers the benefit of the doubt. The absolute Best a 328 manual can do is 6.7 and that still doesn't come close to our average. the 330 the only one I would be scared of is a manual Ci which has been clocking in between 5.8-6.1
Put headers on your CL-S and you'll be right along side of him till about 100 I would say.

mrdeeno

this is what i know...i know i had a full tank in my cl-s, i know my cousin was pushing it (he was in auto and so was i w/ vsa on), i know the car didn't have any winter tires in the trunk, and i know he's about 10 lbs lighter than me, and it was from a stop (on a 35mph bridge, but everyone drives 60mph+...shawn S, you probably know what i'm talking about: 378N-hill to hill bridge i think it's called), and i let off at 70ish and so did he. so i can say up to 70ish i'm a head by like a foot or so...that's what happened. as for mag racing, motortrend's time for the '00 s500 is 6.5 and the cl-s 6.4...oh shit, real life experience concurs with what a magazine says!

but we all know that even if experience concurs with recorded data, none of this can stand up to deadly's,
"a STOCK CL-S will NOT beat the following cars:
Type R - borderline
Mustang GT/Cobra
V8 Camaros, V8 Firebirds
ANY BMW 540
Porshce boxter S
ANY v8 Mercedes
manual bmw 328--borderline
bmw 330"



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fast_daddy_car

I toasted a nsx !!!. I pulled out of park ave acura, spinning my tires down the street, must have had 6 car lengths on it by the time I hit 2nd, left it sitting in the showroom


With all the stat racing going on here, we don't even have to race anyone on the street. Keep a file folder next to you. At a light if someone wants to race, just hand them a stat sheet showing they don't have a chance, flash your hazards, and go merily on your way.

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No Navi, PIAA 19169, Comptech Sways, Century Childseat, Mudguards.

Red Rider

Hey Mike,at least i can't be ticketed if it's mag racing only!!

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uu

race, race, race... can all the cars just get along, and make the world a better place????!!!!

nahhhhhhhh... I freaking almost lost to a modded VW Jetta VR6 (i posted the story before)...

now I am waiting to race with my friends' cars on race track, not on streets: 3000GT(hmmm, not sure), 330ci(might lose), 325xi(hmmm... should be easy), S4(forget about it)

gotta say, our 4th gear is just useless...

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Scrached three rims.

both

I have taken 2 E430s, one from 10-60, the other from 40-90. I can pull with a stick 330i from 60-100, but below or above the 330i pulls me badly. A S4 blew me away on the fwy, from 60 up.

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doc majic

I got a good one. CL-S vs 5.9 limited grand cherokee (6.8 0-60 motortrend)(KN FIPK takes off about .3 sec) I'll race my girlfriend once in my jeep and then we'll switch cars. Then well go up to the Catskills and see which car can run the trails better. hehehe

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98 5.9 limited Grand Cherokee K&N gen 2 FIPK
2001 CL-S (w/nav) girlfriends but its as good as mine

pgatour1

The 5.9 is nothing to mess with. Granted we would still beat a stock one that thing is a beast. My mom had one about 3 years ago. Man 0-30 I believe was 2.0 secs. Whatever it was it nailed you to your seats it snapped your neck back when you floored it. What a great car. Too bad they didn't make a new beast like that with all the new interior features and look of the 2000 and 2001.
How much did the K&N FIPK cost.

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sigs21

Hey you forgot the S-4 Audi....


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kastegir

Gonna try to make it. Looks like I'll still have the Spyder as well. No luck dealing n the CL-S at the moment, so I might just wait for the 2002 and enjoy the ragtop for the summer. It's bone stock, so you should run pretty close to even, unless you're modded.

scalbert

Very.. VERY incorrect...

I own both and have raced them from both sides a number of times. The CL comes ahead everytime. In truth, the 328i doesn't come close without a good launch. At speed I easily pull away.

It comes down to their specific intentions. The 328i manual w/ sport susp. outright handles much better. But the CL-S is quicker. Both brake about the same.

scalbert

Actually no. I've clocked 6.3's in cold conditions. I can normally lay down mid 6.5's in the summer.

Conditions vary and so do drivers.

scalbert

Drivers do constitute a variable. But so do the testing conditions. All mags do not test cars in the same ambient conditions. Most of the major sources are from Detriot where the temps can vary 70 - 80 degrees depending on the time of the year.

So, concurrent testing is the only valuable source. Testing two cars on different days yields nothing for comparison sake.

aeon

This thread was a really dumb idea. I think we've done this about ten times this month already, you guys not tired of it yet? Posted to start sh!t, nothing else. Anyone here get anything useful out of this? Didn't think so....