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Ok. My best friend has a '01 330i. We ran about 12 times, same road, same conditions(about 80 degrees.) i drove his car half the time, he drove my car half the time, so i know it wasnt bad starts or whatever and that it wasnt the driver. Every single damn time, the 330i won. Redicuiously. I mean, c'mon i have AEM CAI and i figured that would make me pull on him, but nope, i see my car start to trail every time. Maybe i have one CL-S from the slow batch or something, but i figured i would win at least once.
we both have 18 inch wheels so i know that wouldnt be a factor. His car is just so quick off the line its not funny, so much more traction. Where in my case i would peel out like a bitch. I even tried to gradually punch it so it wouldnt peel out. The best race we had was when i was driving his car and he was using SS and VSA. I guess he got quicker off the line or something. All in all, im just disappointed in my car ![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/frown.gif)
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I hear ya.
Glad to see a realistic CL-S owner.
I don't believe all these insane stories of 330/M3/Audi S4 kills, makes no sense.
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Glad to see a realistic CL-S owner.
I don't believe all these insane stories of 330/M3/Audi S4 kills, makes no sense.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by Crippen:
I hear ya.
Glad to see a realistic CL-S owner.
I don't believe all these insane stories of 330/M3/Audi S4 kills, makes no sense.
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I hear ya.
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I don't believe all these insane stories of 330/M3/Audi S4 kills, makes no sense.
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I test drove a 330i before i bought my CL-S. I was impressed but I wouldn't consider it that much of an improvement. With the options that I wanted (all standard on the Acura) the car came out to over $42,000. And it still didn't have Xenon lights... What a joke! (Although I almost dished out 52K for an M3)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by eclipse23:
Now it was a street race so factor in all the variables you like but I beat on 2X light from light. (330 that is) S4 and M3 kills are a whole other can of worms.
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Now it was a street race so factor in all the variables you like but I beat on 2X light from light. (330 that is) S4 and M3 kills are a whole other can of worms.
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But light->light you beat him? I'm a bit surprised as they have much better take-off and more power to the wheels than our car. Anything is possible though.
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Well.
I cant say Ive ran against a 330 yet... but I dunno...
I kinda do find it a bit hard to believe a CL-S/w CAI losing by much to a 330i
Have you ever checked that your 2nd stage intake valve thingy is working properly?
Other then that. I just dont know.... and Id be dissapointed to.
Im sure he had the sport package... why dont you invest in some grippy tires for traction? I mean... im sure he invested in some tires for the winter, no?
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I cant say Ive ran against a 330 yet... but I dunno...
I kinda do find it a bit hard to believe a CL-S/w CAI losing by much to a 330i
Have you ever checked that your 2nd stage intake valve thingy is working properly?
Other then that. I just dont know.... and Id be dissapointed to.
Im sure he had the sport package... why dont you invest in some grippy tires for traction? I mean... im sure he invested in some tires for the winter, no?
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Well then eclipse, you tell me how i was beat everytime then. If you can beat the 330's with just your xypher cai. I dunno if it was his better gear ratios or what because i noticed when his car changed gears, mine was still climbing towards red line...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
why dont you invest in some grippy tires for traction? I mean... im sure he invested in some tires for the winter, no?
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why dont you invest in some grippy tires for traction? I mean... im sure he invested in some tires for the winter, no?
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he didnt have sport package, but i think he has the other one. I didnt loose by bad , maybe a car length or two, but c'mon. Thats still pretty bad considering i have 45 more HP or something, ven though my car is heavier, but still...
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jdtypeS:
Well then eclipse, you tell me how i was beat everytime then. If you can beat the 330's with just your xypher cai. I dunno if it was his better gear ratios or what because i noticed when his car changed gears, mine was still climbing towards red line...
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Well then eclipse, you tell me how i was beat everytime then. If you can beat the 330's with just your xypher cai. I dunno if it was his better gear ratios or what because i noticed when his car changed gears, mine was still climbing towards red line...
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Damn. That would give me a lot of doubt about our cars.
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Yup, he had automatic with SS. He used Automatic most of the time though.
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This is a joke right?
Auto 330-sedan w/o sport package???
C'mon... your pullin our chain! stop it!![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/wink.gif)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jdtypeS:
Ok. My best friend has a '01 330i. We ran about 12 times, same road, same conditions(about 80 degrees.) i drove his car half the time, he drove my car half the time, so i know it wasnt bad starts or whatever and that it wasnt the driver. Every single damn time, the 330i won. Redicuiously. I mean, c'mon i have AEM CAI and i figured that would make me pull on him, but nope, i see my car start to trail every time. Maybe i have one CL-S from the slow batch or something, but i figured i would win at least once.
we both have 18 inch wheels so i know that wouldnt be a factor. His car is just so quick off the line its not funny, so much more traction. Where in my case i would peel out like a bitch. I even tried to gradually punch it so it wouldnt peel out. The best race we had was when i was driving his car and he was using SS and VSA. I guess he got quicker off the line or something. All in all, im just disappointed in my car ![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/frown.gif)
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Ok. My best friend has a '01 330i. We ran about 12 times, same road, same conditions(about 80 degrees.) i drove his car half the time, he drove my car half the time, so i know it wasnt bad starts or whatever and that it wasnt the driver. Every single damn time, the 330i won. Redicuiously. I mean, c'mon i have AEM CAI and i figured that would make me pull on him, but nope, i see my car start to trail every time. Maybe i have one CL-S from the slow batch or something, but i figured i would win at least once.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
Well.
I cant say Ive ran against a 330 yet... but I dunno...
I kinda do find it a bit hard to believe a CL-S/w CAI losing by much to a 330i
Have you ever checked that your 2nd stage intake valve thingy is working properly?
Other then that. I just dont know.... and Id be dissapointed to.
Im sure he had the sport package... why dont you invest in some grippy tires for traction? I mean... im sure he invested in some tires for the winter, no?
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Well.
I cant say Ive ran against a 330 yet... but I dunno...
I kinda do find it a bit hard to believe a CL-S/w CAI losing by much to a 330i
Have you ever checked that your 2nd stage intake valve thingy is working properly?
Other then that. I just dont know.... and Id be dissapointed to.
Im sure he had the sport package... why dont you invest in some grippy tires for traction? I mean... im sure he invested in some tires for the winter, no?
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by soopa:
He had an automatic? And he whooped you?
Damn. That would give me a lot of doubt about our cars.</font>
He had an automatic? And he whooped you?
Damn. That would give me a lot of doubt about our cars.</font>
Our cars are not that fast. They need way more power for the weight of the car. I still love the looks of it and the comfort but I wish it had more power.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by WebToker:
Our cars are not that fast. They need way more power for the weight of the car. I still love the looks of it and the comfort but I wish it had more power.
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Our cars are not that fast. They need way more power for the weight of the car. I still love the looks of it and the comfort but I wish it had more power.
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My best friend got a 2000 328 is and i take hime till about 100 then he flys by me, and he also wins at the twisties.
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Maybe it's the blue bulbs?!? :-)
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dude, you said that your doing alot of spinning even with good rubber? what if you guys did a slow rolling start would he still beat you???
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not sure with a slow rolling start. Probably though, i mean with the way his car responds and reacts its still quicker. by the time i floor it, my car will be gathering its torque, etc.. and he will be gone, i dunno, i guess ill just have to try tHAT TOMARROW or later tonight... OH ya, it might be the blue bulbs ![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/smile.gif)
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how much gas is in the tank? If you have 18" rims with good tires, and you are still squealing, it means there is not enough weight over the back tires to plant the rubber...
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Beating a m3 is a can of worms??? WTF!!!
Next time I'll try to get it on film of me graddually pulling away from my buddies m3. If its auto a type S w/ headers WILL pull on it. no joke. manual diff story.
Also if the 330 was a manual it can drop the gear at a higher rpm than our type S starting at 1000.
the only thing im dissapointed in my type S is the MUTHA F@#$@ken paint!!
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Next time I'll try to get it on film of me graddually pulling away from my buddies m3. If its auto a type S w/ headers WILL pull on it. no joke. manual diff story.
Also if the 330 was a manual it can drop the gear at a higher rpm than our type S starting at 1000.
the only thing im dissapointed in my type S is the MUTHA F@#$@ken paint!!
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I drove both cars, and we both had about a qtr tank.
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Hey jdtypeS, is this your friend?
http://www.bimmer.org/3series/messag...ges/91356.html
http://www.bimmer.org/3series/messag...ges/91355.html
http://www.bimmer.org/3series/messag...ges/91351.html
(Yes, he posted the same thing three times. Why is he calling himself "arrogantBMWdriver"???
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I thought the difference here would be that the 330 achieved its peak torque at lower RPM's, but after doing a comparison (www.edmunds.com) the bimmer achievs 214 ft-lbs @ 3500 while the CL does 232 ft-lbs @ 3500 RPM's. The only other thing I can think of is that the 330 is about 400lbs lighter.
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If it was me I'd go find and race on a road that the CL could hook up on. If the CL could hook up I'll bet it would be a different story.
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It's your rubber. You may think Toyo is a good tire (which it may be), but it's not going to compare to the Pirelli P-Zero tires. P-Zero's compete with Pilot Sports and Pole Positions. My TL-S with Headers and intake doesn't even peel out, with STOCK tires.
That and aren't your wheels 18" chrome? Geez... talk about weight. While he's running Momo race inspired wheels you're running show wheels. Your wheels/tire combo alone probably lost your .2-.3 off your 60 ft.
That and aren't your wheels 18" chrome? Geez... talk about weight. While he's running Momo race inspired wheels you're running show wheels. Your wheels/tire combo alone probably lost your .2-.3 off your 60 ft.
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Take the car over 130 mph..topspeed on the 330 is 128mph.. you'll get him at 130 for sure.. haha.
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* wheel locks, full front mask
* fenderwell and door trim
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yup, thats his post
oh well. maybe it is the tires, if i get new ones, i dont have to get 4 new ones do i? Just the front ones, right? cuz there like brand new, well about a month or so.
He calls himself arrograntBMWdriver i guess because he is spoiled, and whenever we play half life he uses that name haha. prob. couldnt think of anything else
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He calls himself arrograntBMWdriver i guess because he is spoiled, and whenever we play half life he uses that name haha. prob. couldnt think of anything else
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Ride: Silver '01 CL-S
Mods: springs, AEM CAI (Red)
Exterior: 18'' Giovanna's wearing Toyo T1-s 225/40/18 - PIAA 169's - Platinum Plus Tint
Interior: Blue Bulbs (doors, dome light)
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Try driving a 3" bodydropped 1990 Toyota single cab everyday....it makes the CL experience 100 times more enjoyable.
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2001 CL-P, new project undergoing complete reconstruction. As of now: Custom CAI fabricated by SRD, Polarg M6 bulbs, 4 ProHopper Chrome hydraulic pumps with whammy tanks, 4 ProHopper dumps, 4 Optima marine deep-cycle batteries, 4 switches. Much much more to come...
1997 Accord coupe EX-L. Chrome suspension, Chrome motor, every bolt-on imaginable. One pump, 8 dump hydraulics with accumulators. Leather, Billet grills, 18" Neeper Shadows...etc..etc http://www.artofnoize.com/Cars/aaron.htm
1990 Toyota standard cab. Bodydropped 3". 17" KMC Nemesis', extensive suspension work. 4 wheel airbags.
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jdtypeS:
yup, thats his post
oh well. maybe it is the tires, if i get new ones, i dont have to get 4 new ones do i? Just the front ones, right? cuz there like brand new, well about a month or so.
He calls himself arrograntBMWdriver i guess because he is spoiled, and whenever we play half life he uses that name haha. prob. couldnt think of anything else</font>
yup, thats his post
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He calls himself arrograntBMWdriver i guess because he is spoiled, and whenever we play half life he uses that name haha. prob. couldnt think of anything else</font>
Get ssr comp's with better tires....
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Muds, Spoiler, Hardwire 8500, Polarg M-6 lamps, K&N filter #33-2178,
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As most have correctly said, its the weight. Along with the 400lb weight difference (as someone pointed out) your 18" rims (are they chrome) do not help getting up to speed. Imagine your launching with two 200lb folks in your car along with a very large Labrador (to account for your Giovanna's). I know when I have two average sized people in my ride the car is not at all peppy. Ask your friend for another go. Then have two or three Russian grandmothers hop into his car. Remove about 1/2 your gasoline. Take out your seats except the driver and I'll put lots o money on you. Then arrogant BMWowner will be nicked as pissedonBMWowner.
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I think the Rear Wheels help Quite a Bit, IMHO
<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jdtypeS:
Ok. My best friend has a '01 330i. We ran about 12 times, same road, same conditions(about 80 degrees.) i drove his car half the time, he drove my car half the time, so i know it wasnt bad starts or whatever and that it wasnt the driver. Every single damn time, the 330i won. Redicuiously. I mean, c'mon i have AEM CAI and i figured that would make me pull on him, but nope, i see my car start to trail every time. Maybe i have one CL-S from the slow batch or something, but i figured i would win at least once.
we both have 18 inch wheels so i know that wouldnt be a factor. His car is just so quick off the line its not funny, so much more traction. Where in my case i would peel out like a bitch. I even tried to gradually punch it so it wouldnt peel out. The best race we had was when i was driving his car and he was using SS and VSA. I guess he got quicker off the line or something. All in all, im just disappointed in my car ![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/frown.gif)
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Ok. My best friend has a '01 330i. We ran about 12 times, same road, same conditions(about 80 degrees.) i drove his car half the time, he drove my car half the time, so i know it wasnt bad starts or whatever and that it wasnt the driver. Every single damn time, the 330i won. Redicuiously. I mean, c'mon i have AEM CAI and i figured that would make me pull on him, but nope, i see my car start to trail every time. Maybe i have one CL-S from the slow batch or something, but i figured i would win at least once.
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#36
i think its your heavy ass rims and maybe u dont know how to launch the car
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my old car www.hondatech.org/99acv6ic.html
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i think its my heavy ass rims. i know how to launch the car very well, i tried a couple different ways of launching, so i know it wasnt me.. oh well, guess ill have to put on the stock rims and then try...
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Damm...I need to race my friends M# and find out too. ![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/frown.gif)
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Spoiler, moonroof visor, 20% Tint,
PIAA 19173/19170
Mobil 1 Oil/Oil Filter
X-Pel/Upgrade Cup Holder
Clifford G4 Solaris Remote Start Car Alarm
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2001 CL-S Satin Silver/Ebnoy
Spoiler, moonroof visor, 20% Tint,
PIAA 19173/19170
Mobil 1 Oil/Oil Filter
X-Pel/Upgrade Cup Holder
Clifford G4 Solaris Remote Start Car Alarm
Just order: AEM CAI/Denso Iridium Spark Plugs
On its way: Comptech Sway Bar/Brake Line/WS Apexi Coilover
#39
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jdtypeS:
Ok. My best friend has a '01 330i. We ran about 12 times, same road, same conditions(about 80 degrees.) i drove his car half the time, he drove my car half the time, so i know it wasnt bad starts or whatever and that it wasnt the driver. Every single damn time, the 330i won. Redicuiously. I mean, c'mon i have AEM CAI and i figured that would make me pull on him, but nope, i see my car start to trail every time. Maybe i have one CL-S from the slow batch or something, but i figured i would win at least once.
we both have 18 inch wheels so i know that wouldnt be a factor. His car is just so quick off the line its not funny, so much more traction. Where in my case i would peel out like a bitch. I even tried to gradually punch it so it wouldnt peel out. The best race we had was when i was driving his car and he was using SS and VSA. I guess he got quicker off the line or something. All in all, im just disappointed in my car ![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/frown.gif)
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Ok. My best friend has a '01 330i. We ran about 12 times, same road, same conditions(about 80 degrees.) i drove his car half the time, he drove my car half the time, so i know it wasnt bad starts or whatever and that it wasnt the driver. Every single damn time, the 330i won. Redicuiously. I mean, c'mon i have AEM CAI and i figured that would make me pull on him, but nope, i see my car start to trail every time. Maybe i have one CL-S from the slow batch or something, but i figured i would win at least once.
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If you go to an 18" wheel, it needs to be about 3 lbs lighter than the stock 17" wheels to spin-up the same (have the same rotational inertia). (The 3 lbs is an approximation only -- OK)
If you go to a very light 17" rim or a very light 18" rim (I believe Astroboy comes to mind) you would probably be better off.
The Bimmer is lighter, has a manual, and in stock form beats the Acura. So, an AEM only gets you about 5HP and you may be losing the equivalent of 10HP in the wheels, so according to the car mags and tests, you SHOULD LOSE!!!
(This is just my opinion -- everything is a trade off.)
BTW -- I have to abuse the car to get a the tires to break loose on acceleration (and we talking about a little rub (no squeal) for such a short time, that I couldn't qualify how little it is...
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You're not launching correctly...a little peel and you should go....obviously you were giving full throttle at the launch. You should peel a bit and then you should hook up and spin it to redline....Hmmm...I think that perhaps the BMW takes less skill to drive...that would make some sense... ![](http://www.acura-cl.com/ubb/smile.gif)
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<font face="Verdana, Arial" size="2">Originally posted by jdtypeS:
he didnt have sport package, but i think he has the other one. I didnt loose by bad , maybe a car length or two, but c'mon. Thats still pretty bad considering i have 45 more HP or something, ven though my car is heavier, but still...
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he didnt have sport package, but i think he has the other one. I didnt loose by bad , maybe a car length or two, but c'mon. Thats still pretty bad considering i have 45 more HP or something, ven though my car is heavier, but still...
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2001 Cl-S Black on Black with Navigation
Black Tint all around (15%~45%)
Weapon-R Dragon Filter
Weapon-R Coil-Overs
Koni Adjustable Struts
Comptech Sway Bars
Comptech Headers (hehehe...I got something for you drchang!!)