Comptech SuperCharger From SEMA and other INFO
10-31-2001, 12:43 PM
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Originally posted by TheModMole
Uhhmnnnn....
See any similarities to the ohhh lets say whipple?
Uhhmnnnn....
See any similarities to the ohhh lets say whipple?
Then in further review of the pics the case body is pratically identical to the Eaton Gen IV. With the exception if a single mounting post the bodies have the same line, ridges and mounts. Even the bypass is located correctly.
10-31-2001, 01:13 PM
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Scalbert:
You being the seasoned veteran I have much respect for your opinion. If you say it is a roots type I would believe you if had i not confirmed twice from within comptech that it is indeed a twin-screw .. however it is not utilizing the manifold replacement as in the NSX S.C. But non the less, I do see the case that your referring to and it does look quite a bit like the eaton... but again my info came from inside comptech .. unless my man is focking with me... LOL
btw they'll be using their FPR in the kit....
You being the seasoned veteran I have much respect for your opinion. If you say it is a roots type I would believe you if had i not confirmed twice from within comptech that it is indeed a twin-screw .. however it is not utilizing the manifold replacement as in the NSX S.C. But non the less, I do see the case that your referring to and it does look quite a bit like the eaton... but again my info came from inside comptech .. unless my man is focking with me... LOL
btw they'll be using their FPR in the kit....
10-31-2001, 01:16 PM
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Well, Mike B said it was an Eaton unit. Eaton = Roots....but I would be even happier if it was a twin screw unit....that would be well worth the $4500....seeing as how similar units are priced accordingly...I think Comptech is being very competitive this time.
10-31-2001, 01:21 PM
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Originally posted by TheModMole
Scalbert:
If you say it is a roots type I would believe you if had i not confirmed twice from within comptech that it is indeed a twin-screw
btw they'll be using their FPR in the kit....
Scalbert:
If you say it is a roots type I would believe you if had i not confirmed twice from within comptech that it is indeed a twin-screw
btw they'll be using their FPR in the kit....
Having been to the Eaton factory several times and having hand ported a previous Gen Eaton blower I feel somewhat 'connected' to their physical aspects.
But either way it is nice to see w SC system nearing release for these cars.
I assume that FPR is a rising rate unit?? If so I wonder what the ratio is and if it is adjustable and not just the pressure?? We'll see soon enough.
10-31-2001, 01:24 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
Well, Mike B said it was an Eaton unit. Eaton = Roots....but I would be even happier if it was a twin screw unit....
Well, Mike B said it was an Eaton unit. Eaton = Roots....but I would be even happier if it was a twin screw unit....
From Magnuson's website:
"The MP series 4th Generation superchargers are the result of hundreds of hours of flow bench research and test stand evaluation added to years of experience manufacturing in excess of 1,000,000 superchargers. This research has resulted in inlet and outlet configurations that bring the volumetric efficiency into the mid 90% range. Adiabatic efficiency, delta temperature, and power requirements have also been dramatically improved."
10-31-2001, 01:26 PM
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I stand corrected!!!
Ah who cares!!! It won't be available until January earliest!! And then I have to wait and see some real world testing on it from Astro...
Because he has all the money and won't be hurting if his tranny goes...
Ah who cares!!! It won't be available until January earliest!! And then I have to wait and see some real world testing on it from Astro...
Because he has all the money and won't be hurting if his tranny goes...
10-31-2001, 03:33 PM
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Originally posted by amirsafdari
there will always be disbelievers.
Even during the time of Jesus, nobody believed him.
See you in Hell.
there will always be disbelievers.
Even during the time of Jesus, nobody believed him.
See you in Hell.
Writing BS like "even in the time of jesus" won't get us believing. Do you think you are on the level of Jesus you dumb cunt?
10-31-2001, 03:35 PM
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Originally posted by tuRb0mikEy
What kinda BS post is that, if you had one you would actually post how you got it and all the specs etc etc.
Writing BS like "even in the time of jesus" won't get us believing. Do you think you are on the level of Jesus you dumb cunt?
What kinda BS post is that, if you had one you would actually post how you got it and all the specs etc etc.
Writing BS like "even in the time of jesus" won't get us believing. Do you think you are on the level of Jesus you dumb cunt?
10-31-2001, 03:36 PM
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Originally posted by tuRb0mikEy
What kinda BS post is that, if you had one you would actually post how you got it and all the specs etc etc.
Writing BS like "even in the time of jesus" won't get us believing. Do you think you are on the level of Jesus you dumb cunt?
What kinda BS post is that, if you had one you would actually post how you got it and all the specs etc etc.
Writing BS like "even in the time of jesus" won't get us believing. Do you think you are on the level of Jesus you dumb cunt?
10-31-2001, 03:37 PM
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Originally posted by tuRb0mikEy
What kinda BS post is that, if you had one you would actually post how you got it and all the specs etc etc.
Writing BS like "even in the time of jesus" won't get us believing. Do you think you are on the level of Jesus you dumb cunt?
What kinda BS post is that, if you had one you would actually post how you got it and all the specs etc etc.
Writing BS like "even in the time of jesus" won't get us believing. Do you think you are on the level of Jesus you dumb cunt?
10-31-2001, 03:58 PM
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Did Mike B say for sure it was an Eaton Roots Blower?
Could be a Lysholm Twin-Screw
perhaps?
Which would be much nicer, imo.
And are there no future options of intercooling of any sort? I'm trying to make sense out of that piping, but can't seem to find a clear path that the air flows through. Right now all that comes to mind is Alcohol injection.
Could be a Lysholm Twin-Screw
perhaps?Which would be much nicer, imo.
And are there no future options of intercooling of any sort? I'm trying to make sense out of that piping, but can't seem to find a clear path that the air flows through. Right now all that comes to mind is Alcohol injection.
10-31-2001, 04:04 PM
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Originally posted by F=ma
Did Mike B say for sure it was an Eaton Roots Blower?
Could be a Lysholm Twin-Screw perhaps?
Which would be much nicer, imo.
And are there no future options of intercooling of any sort? I'm trying to make sense out of that piping, but can't seem to find a clear path that the air flows through. Right now all that comes to mind is Alcohol injection.
Did Mike B say for sure it was an Eaton Roots Blower?
Could be a Lysholm Twin-Screw
perhaps?Which would be much nicer, imo.
And are there no future options of intercooling of any sort? I'm trying to make sense out of that piping, but can't seem to find a clear path that the air flows through. Right now all that comes to mind is Alcohol injection.
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...threadid=52252
10-31-2001, 04:34 PM
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So what exactly was the difference between the centrifugal and the roots. I remember there was one where people were actually getting upset because it benifited the CLP more than the CLS because it replaced the intake manifold. So is there really going to be a large difference between the gains of the SC on the CLP/CLS/Accord v6?
10-31-2001, 04:43 PM
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whether I can afford a tranny or not, I still won't get to test drive and review the supercharger until at least march prolly...that would be due to the snow we get up here...and the fact that my summer tires stay on all year long cuz nothing else fits over my brakes!
10-31-2001, 04:44 PM
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Battery and CAI
OK, after looking closer, I see the battery is still in the same place - it just looks lower!
I don't see why you couldn't use a CAI INSTEAD OF that "ice box" - it would look alot cooler, and can you imagine the sound!!!
Also, I wonder if the K&N drop-in fits in that "ice box" - if it's an oem spec filter - it's basically a stock type airbox, by the looks of it!
I don't see why you couldn't use a CAI INSTEAD OF that "ice box" - it would look alot cooler, and can you imagine the sound!!!
Also, I wonder if the K&N drop-in fits in that "ice box" - if it's an oem spec filter - it's basically a stock type airbox, by the looks of it!
10-31-2001, 05:10 PM
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Originally posted by AirC
So what exactly was the difference between the centrifugal and the roots. I remember there was one where people were actually getting upset because it benifited the CLP more than the CLS because it replaced the intake manifold. So is there really going to be a large difference between the gains of the SC on the CLP/CLS/Accord v6?
So what exactly was the difference between the centrifugal and the roots. I remember there was one where people were actually getting upset because it benifited the CLP more than the CLS because it replaced the intake manifold. So is there really going to be a large difference between the gains of the SC on the CLP/CLS/Accord v6?
In most instances, a Roots replaces the intake manifold....but on the CL-S they made it a priority to keep the intake manifold because it is key to much of the extra 35 hp that the Type-S has over the CL-P.
10-31-2001, 05:15 PM
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Originally posted by Astroboy
whether I can afford a tranny or not, I still won't get to test drive and review the supercharger until at least march prolly...that would be due to the snow we get up here...and the fact that my summer tires stay on all year long cuz nothing else fits over my brakes!
whether I can afford a tranny or not, I still won't get to test drive and review the supercharger until at least march prolly...that would be due to the snow we get up here...and the fact that my summer tires stay on all year long cuz nothing else fits over my brakes!
10-31-2001, 05:18 PM
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Moomaster, thx for clarifying. But if they are mainly tryign to keep the CLS intake manifold. Will the CLP and accord V6 even use the same supercharger? Or woudl we be required to get a completely different one?
10-31-2001, 05:22 PM
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Originally posted by AirC
Moomaster, thx for clarifying. But if they are mainly tryign to keep the CLS intake manifold. Will the CLP and accord V6 even use the same supercharger? Or woudl we be required to get a completely different one?
Moomaster, thx for clarifying. But if they are mainly tryign to keep the CLS intake manifold. Will the CLP and accord V6 even use the same supercharger? Or woudl we be required to get a completely different one?
10-31-2001, 05:42 PM
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That's the strangest reaction to a supercharger I've ever heard...
Originally posted by 4pumpedCL
WOW! that would look really cool chromed. Maybe I'll get one now...
WOW! that would look really cool chromed. Maybe I'll get one now...
oh really
10-31-2001, 07:59 PM
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Correct me if I'm wrong. Since a Lysholm SC will compress air whenever it turns, parasitic drag at cruise or idle speeds can only be eliminated by stopping it via a mechanical clutch vs. a bypass valve on a roots type SC. This would make it harder to mount in our already tiny engine bay because of the space needed for the clutch right? Also, since Lysholm SCs have an internal compression ratio wouldn't they be better for high boost applications and not for the J32A2?
11-01-2001, 12:06 PM
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Once Comptech puts it up on the market, I'm gonan give them the benefit of the doubt and trust that they have tested this product. being the company they are I would hope they don't sell something that can be very damaging to our cars. To that extent I'm putting money in the piggy bank.!
11-01-2001, 12:11 PM
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Not on the car that I have right now. If i trade in what I have now for the 6speed/manny then MAAYBE. We'll have to see what Acura is cooking up for the redesign on next gen Cl by that time.
11-01-2001, 02:58 PM
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I'm putting my money where my mouth is. Hopefully by the time the SC is available for purchase I will have my WRX daily driver by then. 
This way I can let all those uppity Acura Type-S owners check out the 5 Type-S emblems on the back of my Accord that I jacked from their fellow Type-S owners.
You can have those emblems back.... if you can catch me! :P
This way I can let all those uppity Acura Type-S owners check out the 5 Type-S emblems on the back of my Accord that I jacked from their fellow Type-S owners.
You can have those emblems back.... if you can catch me! :P
11-01-2001, 03:06 PM
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I'm putting my money where my mouth is. Hopefully by the time the SC is available for purchase I will have my WRX daily driver by then.
This way I can let all those uppity Acura Type-S owners check out the 5 Type-S emblems on the back of my Accord that I jacked from their fellow Type-S owners.
You can have those emblems back.... if you can catch me! :P
I'm putting my money where my mouth is. Hopefully by the time the SC is available for purchase I will have my WRX daily driver by then.
This way I can let all those uppity Acura Type-S owners check out the 5 Type-S emblems on the back of my Accord that I jacked from their fellow Type-S owners.
You can have those emblems back.... if you can catch me! :P
BNUT, man, so it was you who stole my Type S badge. Lost it the day I saw you at the meet
11-01-2001, 03:19 PM
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Originally posted by moomaster_99
Well, Mike B said it was an Eaton unit. Eaton = Roots....but I would be even happier if it was a twin screw unit....that would be well worth the $4500....seeing as how similar units are priced accordingly...I think Comptech is being very competitive this time.
Well, Mike B said it was an Eaton unit. Eaton = Roots....but I would be even happier if it was a twin screw unit....that would be well worth the $4500....seeing as how similar units are priced accordingly...I think Comptech is being very competitive this time.
Its just that if their is disparity b/w the info coming from two people at Comptech and one is a general manager and the other is an engineer who built the prototype, who you gonna believe?
11-01-2001, 03:24 PM
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Originally posted by SilverKnight
I'm not gonna put anymore stress on the stock tranny.
BNUT, man, so it was you who stole my Type S badge. Lost it the day I saw you at the meet
I'm not gonna put anymore stress on the stock tranny.
BNUT, man, so it was you who stole my Type S badge. Lost it the day I saw you at the meet
Being single and have a good paying job is great... DISPOSABLE INCOME BABY!!! 
LOL, I didn't tell you I've been traveling the country jacking Type-S badges from TL-S and CL-S owners everywhere? Muahahaha...
11-01-2001, 03:39 PM
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The more I look at it the more I am convinced it is the Eaton Gen IV blower. Look at the following pic, the item in the red circle is the Bypass Valve Actuator for the Eaton blowers. It is even correctly positioned on the untis for the Gen IV units (second pic), the casing is identical, etc.
11-01-2001, 04:26 PM
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Originally posted by BNut
Not to dis MikeB in anyway, but he's a General Manager, NOT an engineer the built and prototyped the SC setup. If The Mole spoke with Shad (or whatever the engineer's name is) then I would believe his information before I believed MikeB. I'm not knocking MikeB in anway!!!
Its just that if their is disparity b/w the info coming from two people at Comptech and one is a general manager and the other is an engineer who built the prototype, who you gonna believe?
Not to dis MikeB in anyway, but he's a General Manager, NOT an engineer the built and prototyped the SC setup. If The Mole spoke with Shad (or whatever the engineer's name is) then I would believe his information before I believed MikeB. I'm not knocking MikeB in anway!!!
Its just that if their is disparity b/w the info coming from two people at Comptech and one is a general manager and the other is an engineer who built the prototype, who you gonna believe?
BTW, did they take the yellow NSX to SEMA? That thing is sweet!!!! It's got their widebody kit, a set of black and polished BBS rims (very wide), and the supercharger.... Talk about sweet.
11-01-2001, 04:33 PM
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I'd love to have it right away, but it's gonna have to be a package deal including install and tranny upgrade for peace of mind. That's gonna be close to 8k, and that's gonna take some time to put $$ aside. Then you'll need to upgrade the brakes to handle the speed, and............