AcuraCl1

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I just recently obtained a Comptech Supercharger. My question is what will I need in addition before I put it on the car. And is there any tips to help achieve more horsepower or make it run better. They guy that I bought it from told me that he didnt even hook up the fan shrout because he changed out his radiator with a polished one that was alot smaller in depth and changed out his fans with a dual fan by summit racing group. What do you all think. My mods are listed below.

Thanks for any input.
Scott

Smitty

51R Battery if you do not have 1 ....

rezurex

hey man... congrats. i would get the HBP, e-manage and if you want more power i would get scalbert's IC

enjoy!

BlueByYou

I would look into a set of headers as well.

blader

get headers asap, or you probably wont even see that much gain .. then a bpipe. and the 51r battery. and you'll probably want guages of some sort.

AcuraCl1

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I already have the battery, fogot to mention that. Which headers would you all recommend (alphawerks or comptech), Is the HBP the bpipe, I am going to get some gauges within a month, I am going to go with the ones that Mr Steve has. I need to find out which ones he has, because I like the glow effect at night. I actually got the supercharger for $1000, it has minimal damage, in which I talked to Comptech and they told me that it would cost me less than $500 to fix. They only thing wrong with it is, that I need a battery tray, a tensior pulley, and a fuel pump. It is for a 00 Accord, but Comptech said that they would convert it to a 02 Acura CLS for me included in the $500 price. The Supercharger has less than 100 miles on it. The person who sold it to me, totaled their car.

blader

sounds like a killer deal.

the HBP is the High Boost Pulley. the B-pipe is the pipe between the cat and the axle back mufflers.

as for headers, I have comptechs and I love them, I am biased toward comptech prudcts. Header brands are an age old question, and everyone has their own opinion. Havent read up on the alphawerks, search for the thread that was recently around.

If you can get a used set of comptech headers, definately jump on that. If not, if you dont want any problems and want the top quality set, buy comptech. If you want to take a chance on the alphawerks, read the thread and see how members have liked them and take a chance on them.

AcuraCl1

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Thanks, where do I get the the high boost pulley

AcuraCl1

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Thanks, where do I get the high boost pulley

mrsteve

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Contact velocity resources.


My gauges were purchased from Summit Racing. They are the autometer pro-comp electrical full swept gauges. Let me know if you have another other questions.

Chaptorial

Get the e-manage only if your sure your gonna be getting the IC. Getting it before would be a waste of money, especially if you then decide down the road your not gonna go with the Intercooler setup.

mrsteve

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Chap I'm sure gains are possible with the E-Manage even without the intercooler.

Chaptorial

But are they worth the price of admission? (then again this can vary for anyone considering some say the CT headers aren’t)

However from what i remember scalbert saying, using an e-manage on a CL running just the stock or HBP wouldn't net any significant gains. If it turns out it does then i stand corrected.

But I just wanted to save this guy from running out and buying a $300 item if he was unsure on whether or not it would be fully utilized.

SCTL-SS

[QUOTE=mrsteve]Contact velocity resources.


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Talk to Jason on this one - "Speed Distributors".

mrsteve

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[QUOTE=SCTL-SS]
I even ordered it from him and I called it VR still

mrsteve

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We shall soon see. Smitty and I might be recieving our E-Manage prior to the IC

ITL

What does e-manage do?

How much are you guys paying for ICs? What kind of improvements are they giving you?

How does e-manage help with IC setup?


With Comptech's SC for the new TL still in dev, I am trying to get some tips from you guys to ease the process when I purchase.

Smitty

i heard CT is having problems with the piggy back ECU for the 04 TL supercharger, something about the ECU resets itself and clears out all data of the piggy back unit..

I do not know if the IC will fit the 04 TL... you will need to find Scalbert and ask him.

http://www.hopesystemsinc.com/index.asp

scalbert

The E-Manage allows you to control the fuel and ignition retard based on RPM and boost.

The IC in conjunction with the E-Manage and more boost managed to give my CL-S6 369 WHP. See the below chart. As for price, it is $0 as I am not making anymore unless people can get five or more together.

scalbert

Hey Scott,

As we had discussed, you will ne headers. I would also go ahead and get the HBP and B-Pipe to get the most out of the car.

For gauges, get a fuel pressure gauge without a doubt.

ITL

Thanks for the info on the e-manage.

I understand the need for a groupbuy on an application like this. Once the CT SC is fully developed for the 3rd gen TL, I do not believe this would be an issue. I'm curious to know if you've had the opportunity to analyze the dimensions of the engine bay on the new TL.

What kind of gains are you seeing from the IC + e-manage package over the SC only? Obviously, cooler temps (from the IC) are going to contribute to extended reliability as well as the increased numbers on the charts.

I browsed around the CL forums for a few hours yesterday and noticed many threads about FPR issues. Can you give me an abridged version of any fuel pressure issues you may have run into?

Thanks,
Alan

scalbert

Yes, I have looked at the '04+ engine bay and the IC would not need much, if any, alterations to make it fit. That is if Comptech doesn't drastically change the SC mounting which I doubt they will. And IMO, you will have trouble getting enough people. The demand was much great for the IC when it was discussed as opposed to when it become available.

If you look at the red line in the plot, that was the SC kit with just the HBP. The base SC kit would have dyno'd about 295 WHP.

The problem with the FPR is the demands it is being asked. This car requires a significant increase in fuel pressure in order to get the fuel required for blown duty. We have seen several FPR fail to maintain the need gain rate required to get the needed fuel under boost. That is why we looked into lowering the fuel pressure and running the E-Manage to extend the factory pulse width directly.

Habib

Maybe we should start a thread to get enough people interested in buying it so scalbert can start making them again

MtBikR

Here is a list that I've been compiling of needed parts for a SC kit. Don't know if you have all of them or not. Hope it helps.


816-014 (FPR fuel inlet hose)
813-005 (for the fuel feed)
814-308 (hose-end for fuel return)
355-128 (p/s reservoir bracket)
901-152 (T/B gasket)
805-022 (cam seal o-ring)
355-137 (fan motor spacer)

901-158M (fan shroud)
355-155 (upper radiator hose)
360-010 (fuel pump)
360-020-7 (FPR)
355-135 (alt/blower 3.0" pulley)
355-112 (alt/blower mount)
354-116 (bypass valve vacuum barb fitting)
355-118 (blower support bracket)
355-111 (drive shaft mount)
355-110 (main mount)
355-122 (main mount adj. bobbin)

NSX-Tuner

If you use the ESM that comes with the CTSC kit, be sure to solder in the wire connections instead of using splices. Otherwise your car will probably develop mis-fire issues because of bad electrical connections.

babyblue

Isn't this thread mroe than 4 months old???

NighthawkBlack

Scalbert. you still on these boards? Are you still in GA? I still have my ride and wanted to try an IC, a different set up but wondering about the Emanage.

gnuts

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no he is not on here anymore. He used Emanage Blue, with a boomslang harness (for 6speed not auto) I believe. If you search his posts he had pictures and info on the top mount intercooler. Hopefully the pics still work.

You could also try a front mount air to air intercooler. Much cheaper and simpler. Look for posts by here by user Marcelechka .

Karanx7

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You're going to lose so much boost with a FMIC. The MP62 barely puts out 3psi max, and about 5psi max with the HBP. If you're running average 2-4psi boost, you would be better off without the FMIC.

I'm going to run a MP90, HBP on alternator, and Max boost pulley on S/C shaft. I have a Scalbert IC that I will have to use, or I would 100% blow the engine.

gnuts

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you have the scalbert IC? Sweet. that would be the dream setup for sure.