Coilovers for best ride...
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i can't imagine you getting a better ride quality out of coilovers rather than the comptech springs. if bouncing around is your concern, you need new struts. if you want more performance, height adjustability and (most likely) a stiffer ride, get coilovers.
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Originally posted by mattg
i can't imagine you getting a better ride quality out of coilovers rather than the comptech springs. if bouncing around is your concern, you need new struts. if you want more performance, height adjustability and (most likely) a stiffer ride, get coilovers.
i can't imagine you getting a better ride quality out of coilovers rather than the comptech springs. if bouncing around is your concern, you need new struts. if you want more performance, height adjustability and (most likely) a stiffer ride, get coilovers.
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Originally posted by mattg
i can't imagine you getting a better ride quality out of coilovers rather than the comptech springs. if bouncing around is your concern, you need new struts. if you want more performance, height adjustability and (most likely) a stiffer ride, get coilovers.
i can't imagine you getting a better ride quality out of coilovers rather than the comptech springs. if bouncing around is your concern, you need new struts. if you want more performance, height adjustability and (most likely) a stiffer ride, get coilovers.
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i talked to a guy at a local shop and he told me that the stock honda struts were some of the worst. combine that w/ a drop and they wear out quick. so i decided to get struts before wheels. putting the koni sports (yellows) in tomorrow. lower perch mount in the front.
btw, that local shop wanted $808 for the struts, i got them from www.autocarparts.com for $583 shipped.
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btw, that local shop wanted $808 for the struts, i got them from www.autocarparts.com for $583 shipped.
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Originally posted by Austin519
mattg:
You may as well have gotten adjustable Zex's or something for that price.
Webtoker:
The teins will ride softer than the CT's on the softest setting.
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mattg:
You may as well have gotten adjustable Zex's or something for that price.
Webtoker:
The teins will ride softer than the CT's on the softest setting.
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Originally posted by Titand19
How are Zex Coilovers? Will the ones from the Accord fit our car? What can be adjusted on them? I really don't know much about them at all. Help.
How are Zex Coilovers? Will the ones from the Accord fit our car? What can be adjusted on them? I really don't know much about them at all. Help.
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Originally posted by Austin519
mattg:
You may as well have gotten adjustable Zex's or something for that price.
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mattg:
You may as well have gotten adjustable Zex's or something for that price.
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CL Type Slim:
How stiff are they, do you regret getting them? How much did you pay for them? I'm having a hard time deciding if i should get springs or coilovers.
How stiff are they, do you regret getting them? How much did you pay for them? I'm having a hard time deciding if i should get springs or coilovers.
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I believe the coilovers you guys are referring to are called NEX Street Spec.
I am probably going to purchase a set on my next pay check. They run $650 + s/h from this place out in Kent, WA.
JRock currently is running a set with a 2.5" drop. His remarks about them so far have been pretty positive.
http://forum.dtmpower.net/showthread...641#post334641
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...&highlight=nex
or simply do a search for NEX, Apexi, Tein, Zeal
I am probably going to purchase a set on my next pay check. They run $650 + s/h from this place out in Kent, WA.
JRock currently is running a set with a 2.5" drop. His remarks about them so far have been pretty positive.
http://forum.dtmpower.net/showthread...641#post334641
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showt...&highlight=nex
or simply do a search for NEX, Apexi, Tein, Zeal
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Why don't you guys find out the spring rates of these setups? That will tell you how soft/firm the ride is instead of having to rely on other peoples' experiences.
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Originally posted by Titand19
CL Type Slim:
How stiff are they, do you regret getting them? How much did you pay for them? I'm having a hard time deciding if i should get springs or coilovers.
CL Type Slim:
How stiff are they, do you regret getting them? How much did you pay for them? I'm having a hard time deciding if i should get springs or coilovers.
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Originally posted by CL Type Slim
The ride is not bad but I used to have a lower civic with Tokico and H&R Sports Springs, my current ride is a little more stiffer than that ride. I am getting a little older therefore I like the stock ride. I got a great deal from Moomaster, I can't tell you the price but a price that no one can beat. If you have the dough and I mean some major dough, you should get the top of the line tein where you adjust height and spring rate.
The ride is not bad but I used to have a lower civic with Tokico and H&R Sports Springs, my current ride is a little more stiffer than that ride. I am getting a little older therefore I like the stock ride. I got a great deal from Moomaster, I can't tell you the price but a price that no one can beat. If you have the dough and I mean some major dough, you should get the top of the line tein where you adjust height and spring rate.
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#18
Originally posted by EricS
Can't believe you guys don't replace your dampeners when you change out your springs. That's a no-no.
Can't believe you guys don't replace your dampeners when you change out your springs. That's a no-no.
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I totally agree...it isn't a no-no..psssh. It will only cause problems if you drop your car more than 2" or so...per Jens' (works at park ave acura) comment a long time ago. And besides...if you did...why the hell wouldn't you just pay the extra bill or two and get coilovers???
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I totally agree...it isn't a no-no..psssh. It will only cause problems if you drop your car more than 2" or so...per Jens' (works at park ave acura) comment a long time ago. And besides...if you did...why the hell wouldn't you just pay the extra bill or two and get coilovers???
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Originally posted by Austin519
JRock:
And besides...if you did...why the hell wouldn't you just pay the extra bill or two and get coilovers???
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JRock:
And besides...if you did...why the hell wouldn't you just pay the extra bill or two and get coilovers???
Austin519
#21
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Originally posted by JRock
Whatever man, my stock shocks/struts/dampeners did just fine with my Comptech springs for the ~14k the Comptechs were in there.
Whatever man, my stock shocks/struts/dampeners did just fine with my Comptech springs for the ~14k the Comptechs were in there.
Just like I didn't need an alignment after installing comptech springs/sways even though you insist you need one (it is you that insists that, isn't it?).
And besides...if you did...why the hell wouldn't you just pay the extra bill or two and get coilovers???
If you get springs & dampeners at the same time you only have to spend your time/money installing things once. There should not be any extra labor cost in doing dampeners at the same time as springs.
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This is actually true...stock dampeners should last 100k...that is the standard for most hydraulic devices on vehicles. Alignment might not be required, but it never hurts to have it...and if you think $40 is too much...then you are in for a world of pain for how much tires are gonna cost you.
As for ride quality, all depends on what you want...some people do prefer a stiffer ride, I for one do...and with coilovers.....the manufacturer is trying to give you the best of both worlds by matching their dampening with the spring rate, an opinion yes...but for most people its good enough....and with dampening adjustable coilovers...best of both worlds.
As for ride quality, all depends on what you want...some people do prefer a stiffer ride, I for one do...and with coilovers.....the manufacturer is trying to give you the best of both worlds by matching their dampening with the spring rate, an opinion yes...but for most people its good enough....and with dampening adjustable coilovers...best of both worlds.
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"ride quality, usually coilovers are alot stiffer (unless you get some pansy spring rate ). plus it is more expensive.
If you get springs & dampeners at the same time you only have to spend your time/money installing things once. There should not be any extra labor cost in doing dampeners at the same time as springs."
Nah I disagree...coilovers are not always a lot stiffer than other aftermarket springs...take the H&R Race versus the tein coilovers...the teins can drop just as low while still being softer. That's why I want adjustable coilovers for myself![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
And it's not more expensive. Getting a good set of springs/shocks, versus getting a set of coilovers (the Zex for instance are $600) is about the same price.
And you wouldn't have to worry about the cost of install at all if you did what I did and installed it yourself! :P
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"ride quality, usually coilovers are alot stiffer (unless you get some pansy spring rate ). plus it is more expensive.
If you get springs & dampeners at the same time you only have to spend your time/money installing things once. There should not be any extra labor cost in doing dampeners at the same time as springs."
Nah I disagree...coilovers are not always a lot stiffer than other aftermarket springs...take the H&R Race versus the tein coilovers...the teins can drop just as low while still being softer. That's why I want adjustable coilovers for myself
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And it's not more expensive. Getting a good set of springs/shocks, versus getting a set of coilovers (the Zex for instance are $600) is about the same price.
And you wouldn't have to worry about the cost of install at all if you did what I did and installed it yourself! :P
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Originally posted by mattg
i'm happy w/ my decision. my car will perform as well as coilovers with a better ride quality. plus the firmness is completely adjustable and the perch height is also adjustable.
i'm happy w/ my decision. my car will perform as well as coilovers with a better ride quality. plus the firmness is completely adjustable and the perch height is also adjustable.
No no no. The konis are not height adjustable if you are using lowering springs. Plus, I don't think the clearence is there anyways to use the lower perch without modifying the surrounding structure. Didn't you read your instructions?
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Remember, u get what u pay for. if u gonna just buy springs and not replace ur shocks, that's a dumb move. the suspencion is the most important part of ur car. spend the extra $$$ and get the shock and springs. I just bought the Tein and orderd the Camber kits. lots of $$, but i'm sure i'll be happy with the results. gonna put them in this weekend.
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Originally posted by JZ
No no no. The konis are not height adjustable if you are using lowering springs. Plus, I don't think the clearence is there anyways to use the lower perch without modifying the surrounding structure. Didn't you read your instructions?
No no no. The konis are not height adjustable if you are using lowering springs. Plus, I don't think the clearence is there anyways to use the lower perch without modifying the surrounding structure. Didn't you read your instructions?
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Originally posted by Austin519
Nah I disagree...coilovers are not always a lot stiffer than other aftermarket springs...take the H&R Race versus the tein coilovers...the teins can drop just as low while still being softer. That's why I want adjustable coilovers for myself![Smile](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/smile.gif)
And it's not more expensive. Getting a good set of springs/shocks, versus getting a set of coilovers (the Zex for instance are $600) is about the same price.
And you wouldn't have to worry about the cost of install at all if you did what I did and installed it yourself! :P
Austin519
Nah I disagree...coilovers are not always a lot stiffer than other aftermarket springs...take the H&R Race versus the tein coilovers...the teins can drop just as low while still being softer. That's why I want adjustable coilovers for myself
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And it's not more expensive. Getting a good set of springs/shocks, versus getting a set of coilovers (the Zex for instance are $600) is about the same price.
And you wouldn't have to worry about the cost of install at all if you did what I did and installed it yourself! :P
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Originally posted by evolaerok
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Originally posted by EricS
Don't you realize that 14k for stock dampeners is horrible! Those bad boys should easily last 50k...
Don't you realize that 14k for stock dampeners is horrible! Those bad boys should easily last 50k...
ride quality, usually coilovers are alot stiffer (unless you get some pansy spring rate :P ). plus it is more expensive.
If you get springs & dampeners at the same time you only have to spend your time/money installing things once.
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Originally posted by JRock
My coilovers were $650 shipped.....So for me I was getting three things for the price of one thing: shocks, springs, and adjustable height&ride all for the same price a set of Konis would have cost me.
My coilovers were $650 shipped.....So for me I was getting three things for the price of one thing: shocks, springs, and adjustable height&ride all for the same price a set of Konis would have cost me.
What's adjustable with the NEX coilovers, height and spring rates? Where did you get them for $650 shipped? And how's the ride, is it that much worse/stiffer than the Comptechs? I'm also thinking about changing out my Comptechs for coilovers, but am still undecided. I'll wait to see how the rims I'm getting will look with the Comptechs.
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Originally posted by soopa
JRock hasnt had his coil-overs long enough to fairly judge the ride quality.
they all start off nice... within 6mo turn into shit.
JRock hasnt had his coil-overs long enough to fairly judge the ride quality.
they all start off nice... within 6mo turn into shit.
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Originally posted by soopa
JRock hasnt had his coil-overs long enough to fairly judge the ride quality.
they all start off nice... within 6mo turn into shit.
JRock hasnt had his coil-overs long enough to fairly judge the ride quality.
they all start off nice... within 6mo turn into shit.
#36
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Originally posted by JRock
They weren't worn out, my comptech springs were only in there 14k before I bought my coilovers. Try to pay attention.
They weren't worn out, my comptech springs were only in there 14k before I bought my coilovers. Try to pay attention.
My coilovers were $650 shipped. I'd love to see you get Comptech springs and Koni yellows for much better than that. Last time I checked, a full set of Koni yellows alone from ACP would have cost me as much as these coilovers did. So for me I was getting three things for the price of one thing: shocks, springs, and adjustable height&ride all for the same price a set of Konis would have cost me.
Then when I realized I wanted to drop the car a lot more, it was a good thing I hadn't wasted money on Koni yellows since my coilovers replace all of that.
BTW, I'm not arguing the economics of buying separates vs. coilovers. That wasn't the intent of the original post. Just saying, if you guys are so worried about performance and ride quality, you should've gotten performance dampeners the same time as performance springs.
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Originally posted by EricS
What I'm saying is who's to know they wouldn't go out at 15k? Just cause you had them on there for 14k doesn't mean they'd last 50 or more.
What I'm saying is who's to know they wouldn't go out at 15k? Just cause you had them on there for 14k doesn't mean they'd last 50 or more.
Here, let's start from the beginning:
You: Can't believe you guys don't replace your dampeners when you change out your springs. That's a no-no.
Me: Whatever man, my stock shocks/struts/dampeners did just fine with my Comptech springs for the ~14k the Comptechs were in there. (I had the stock struts in a total of 24000 miles. I still have them, they're not on my car, but they're still just fine.)
Here's you starting to go off-topic: Don't you realize that 14k for stock dampeners is horrible! Those bad boys should easily last 50k...
Here's me trying to stick to the topic: They weren't worn out, my comptech springs were only in there 14k before I bought my coilovers. Try to pay attention.
Here's you off in Neverneverland: What I'm saying is who's to know they wouldn't go out at 15k? Just cause you had them on there for 14k doesn't mean they'd last 50 or more.
The statement was "I can't believe you guys don't replace your shocks when you replace your springs." I said, "I don't see why it's such a big deal - my stock shocks worked fine with my Comptech springs."
End of story. Go take your mileage issues elsewhere.
As for this crap:
way to compare the best/most expensive dampeners with
the cheapest coilover setup.
the cheapest coilover setup.
#39
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heh, i don't care no more, there's no use with you. Hope you enjoyed the toed-out-bouncy ride while you had it.
Others are smart enough to see my point that its a good idea to replace the stock dampeners with performance ones when you switch to a higher spring rate/lower height spring. Same with getting an alignment
Others are smart enough to see my point that its a good idea to replace the stock dampeners with performance ones when you switch to a higher spring rate/lower height spring. Same with getting an alignment
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Originally posted by EricS
heh, i don't care no more, there's no use with you.
heh, i don't care no more, there's no use with you.
Hope you enjoyed the toed-out-bouncy ride while you had it.
Others are smart enough to see my point that its a good idea to replace the stock dampeners with performance ones when you switch to a higher spring rate/lower height spring.
Same with getting an alignment
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