Well, I was about to explain everything in detail, but it got all erased while I was talking on ventrillo. So I'll deal with it later.

Went from a 3rd gear roll at around 5100 rpms (on the bottle and 114 octane as usual). He gave me the headstart and went at it as my rear bumper passed his front bumper. Unfortunately for him, he never pulled on me, and I ended up 2 1/2 cars in front of him. We went at it again, and he gave me the go again with a car headstart for whatever reason. This time I was about 2 cars in front of him by the end of 4th gear.

I had a long story about what I thought happened, but it was erased, and I am not going to retype that tonight. Honestly, the numbers don't make sense to me, and I'm thinking about meeting him again next week to see what the hell happened. (it was a local meet, and he stated he was going to be there again next wednesday). He's pushing 300whp with a jdm b16 @ 16psi (didn't ask for the details of the engine). His car was stripped like mine, and he had open exhaust as well, which is always nice to hear.

 

I've managed to beat a D16 (EK chassis) running 14psi Looking foward to those lost details.

 

Long story short, my theory is he:

A. Made 300whp on race gas and was not at 16psi tonight due to lack of race gas (my guess for this was that he insisted we ran next week instead of tonight)

or

B. My gearing and where I was in the rpm band gave me a great advantage. My only guess is that he was in 4th gear at the speed we took off at and dealt with turbo lag due to lack of brake boosting.

Another thing that popped in my head was, he most likely had the b16 tranny, which is not ideal for boost. He's best bet would be to go with the ls tranny due to longer gearing. But I can only predict what went wrong for him. I won't know for sure untill I meet him next week. Hell, for all I know, maybe he did give it all he had, and I just simply won fair and square. ???

 

Maybe hes not even tuned right, running really rich, and is only guessing hat hes making that much power, he also has a really small turbo I bet

 

Yea, I have no idea what it could be. By far, the closest race I've had on the bottle.

 

if he isnt tuned right, then how would he make 300whp?

 

all motor FTW!

 

I just said that he was guessing how much power he had

 

just bustin your balls. did you ask him why he lost?

 

use smileys next time
He lost because its a civic

 

It was towards the end of the night, so by that time we were all heading home. I plan on stopping by this up coming wednesday to ask him what happened. Hopefully, it was a legit win

 

kid would be better off with a Type-R trans. i know this one kid with a turbo B16 EK with a type-r trans and it runs 11's.

 

i thought your car wasnt running right, or compression was bad along with ecu issues?

if you got it back we should race, what meet was it?

 

Yea, I still have a loss of compression in cylinder 5 and 6. Cylinder 3 and 4 are ehh. I'll get around to fixing it.

 

 

Comparing Max HP between 2 cars is not an exact science. There are a lot of factors that make that meaning less. I see folks making comments about how I or someone else couldn't have beaten this or that car because the have 10, 15, 20 or more HP. This is an incorrect assumption to make. Some of the primary factors that come in to play are as you mentioned, gearing, and both the tranny and axel gearing play a roll. Changing tire sizes, powerband, torque, driver, actual weight are some others. The problem with dynos are that they are not an exact science. There are too many variables, so I've always used a +or- 10% fudge factor when comparing results. I've also remind folks that 0-60 times are not a guarantee of outcome. I'll run any car with a 0-60 time of a half a second better than what my TLS is rated at, and I will bet I win most of those. Not bragging here, just based on results. Some of the local DFW guys have riden with me and understant now that driving an auto is just punching it.



Ruf

 

its called torque.

and all the theories you provided also.