Nashua_Night_Hawk

Not good news, Through June 01,
CL sales:
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AMERICAN HONDA VEHICLE SALES FOR JUNE, 2001

Month-to-Date Year-to-Date
June June DSR** June June DSR**
2001 2000 % Chg. 2001 2000 % Chg.

AMERICAN HONDA TTL 112,120 104,818 7.0% 603,926 576,392 4.8%
Total Car Sales 85,652 79,612 7.6% 454,438 437,828 3.8%
Total Truck Sales 26,468 25,206 5.0% 149,488 138,564 7.9%
IMPORT CAR SALES 10,845 15,114 -28.2% 71,258 79,906 -10.8%
Honda Division 7,018 11,246 -37.6% 54,016 58,100 -7.0%
Acura Division 3,827 3,868 -1.1% 17,242 21,806 -20.9%
IMPORT TRUCK SALES 10,153 10,929 -7.1% 54,852 61,456 -10.7%
Honda Division 10,153 10,914 -7.0% 54,852 61,270 -10.5%
Acura Division 0 15 0 186
DOMESTIC CAR SALES* 74,807 64,498 16.0% 383,180 357,922 7.1%
Honda Division 66,474 55,808 19.1% 337,041 312,196 8.0%
Acura Division 8,333 8,690 -4.1% 46,139 45,726 0.9%
DOMESTIC TRUCK SALES* 16,315 14,277 14.3% 94,636 77,108 22.7%
Honda Division 13,014 14,277 -8.8% 73,107 77,108 -5.2%
Acura Division 3,301 0 21,529 0

MODEL BREAKOUTS BY DIVISION

Honda Division Total 96,659 92,245 4.8% 519,016 508,674 2.0%
Accord* 37,546 34,298 9.5% 216,156 192,620 12.2%
Civic* 33,776 30,890 9.3% 161,685 167,574 -3.5%
Prelude 773 988 -21.8% 4,254 4,724 -9.9%
S2000 958 465 106.0% 5,989 3,830 56.4%
Insight 439 412 6.6% 2,973 1,546 92.3%
EV-Plus 1 2
Odyssey *11,455 12,223 -6.3% 64,816 66,717 -2.8%
Passport* 1,559 2,063 -24.4% 8,296 10,406 -20.3%
CR-V 10,153 10,905 -6.9% 54,847 61,255 -10.5%
*Domestic Vehicle
Ttl 79,488 70,085 13.4% 410,148 389,304 5.4%
Accord 34,929 26,807 30.3% 185,276 155,231 19.4%
Civic 31,545 29,001 8.8% 151,765 156,965 -3.3%
Passport 1,559 2,063 -24.4% 8,296 10,406 -20.3%
Odyssey 11,455 12,214 -6.2% 64,811 66,702 -2.8%

Acura Division Total 15,461 12,573 23.0% 84,910 67,718 25.4%
Integra 2,637 2,619 0.7% 11,638 14,342 -18.9%
RSX 253 253
CL* 1,717 2,726 -37.0% 10,064 11,487 -12.4%
TL* 6,616 5,964 10.9% 36,075 34,239 5.4%
RL 924 1,232 -25.0% 5,256 7,329 -28.3
NSX 13 17 -23.5% 95 135 -29.6%
MDX* 3,301 21,529
SLX 0 15 0 186
Selling Days 26 26 154 154
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BNut

Go Accords go! Up over 12% from last year sales.

I can see the new Civic's aren't as popular, and no wonder they canned the Prelude. They are selling more S2000's than Preludes... hahaha

davo-cls

So what do you think it is? Economy or marketing? June 2000's economy was much more bright than June 2001's. Also, I think Acura has one of the worst marketing dept. in all of the industry. I'm curious to see what the RSX sells like. I still haven't seen one on the road yet.

TypeSKid

I think the reason they sold so many more S2000's is because they are much easier to get now than they were last year.

Also, what happens if the CL sales stay at this level? they won't bag it will they?

amir was here

i also havent seen 1 RSX on the road...

Infamuz

Amir, you are right, I still havent seen any RSXs. Whats goign on here?

amir was here

i dont know, but i am laughing at my dealership,..

when i went for service they played this hard to get game with me, i asked to test drive it right away, and they said they are sold out of ALL RSX's for a month...so i just walked away.

Then the guy, came up to me and says, you know, i just found out we have 1 for a test drive..it was a type S, and red..then i said forget it, i hate red cars...and i said i didnt want to test drive it, not waste my time...then he jumped and said, wait i think we could get our hands a on a silver one too...then i said i want blue, and they had it..HAHA, they told me they were sold out for a month, and they had 3 Type S's ONLY Type S's for sale... fucking liars.

e1828

I saw an RSX in a parking lot here in downtown SF.. but it was a nonType S one.. who the heck would buy a non-TypeS one? I guess they have no need for speed? Or they just just want an auto.

SchwartzSM

Besides the obvious difference in the economy June 01 vs. June 00, I think the figures through about August '00 will be artificially high because of the "new model" factor. Now, people see CLs everyday on the road and they aren't the cool new thing anymore, even though they aren't dime-a-dozen like 3 series (silver, of course). I doubt it's as much of a slow down as it seems...I think sales just leveled off after several months of new model introduction sales, and now they're a little low because of the economy, pending '02 models, etc. They'll pick up again, but not to June '00 levels barring a significant redesign.

SmoothJyzz

I agree with the synopsis so far. Also, look at the increase of the TL-S sales. I do think that some of those people wanted the CL (P or S), but then when the four-door was available (and the TL was already wildly popular) why shouldn't they have opted for that model. Seems reasonable.

Basically, I think Acura shot the CL in the foot when they came out with the TL-S.

dee

juniorbean

iTrader: (5)

The CL was a new model this time last year, so of course this years sales are lower. Plus with the introduction of the TL-S and the 2002 CL a month or two away, it's no shock that they have fallen.

As for the RSX... I've seen 3 on the road (all Type-S', all black) and 1 red one in my office parking lot. Not too bad considering it just came out. My dealer literally had zero on the lot and said there's a one month wait time, which I believe. Even the one on the showroom floor was sold (I would never leave it on the showroom floor if I bought it).....

WebToker

Means I don't have to see a CL on every corner which is why I got this car. Ya it may hurt us in after market but shit it wasn't going to get any better if they only
sold a few more thousand cars.

Huffster

I've seen several RSX's on the road already. Saw two on the way home from work last Friday in fact. I must admit that they look much better driving than they did at the LA Auto Show. I hated them then, but actually like them now. Still not sure it's worth that kind of money.

In answer to the "Why CL sales are down"...I have two theories...One is that as much as the politicians want to say there is no recession, there is. When people do not have jobs or extra spending money, they are not going to buy more expensive cars. My second theory (and don't hate me for it) is that the new CL's look too much like the Ford Taurus or a few other cars with that same basic design. I constantly get close to what I think is a CL only to realize it's something else. When cars all start looking aloike, I think sale will go down a bit. At least the 1st Gen Cl's looked unique.

e1828

That so true I cannot remember how many times I hear people mistake a Solara for out CL from faraway and vice versa.