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Old 03-15-2007, 07:46 AM
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CLs v RSX typeS

Heading west yesterday on the Sawgrass expressway a silver RSX typeS passed me just past the toll booths. I sped up and hung with him until we hit a nice open stretch. I passed him at full throttle and he came after me but was then blocked off by another car. When he got free he started pulling on me strongly. Seems like I hit a brick wall at 110 with the automatic.

We both got off on the Commercial exit and I slowed down to about 20mph on Commercial so we could go at it. He nailed it just before I did and started pulling right away. As the Vtec engaged I narrowed the gap slightly but by the time I hit 85 or so he had a couple of cars on me and to add insult to injury pulled partly in my lane and then slowed and exited left at the next light.

Sounded like he had an intake and exhaust even though he appeared stock. I did not think the RSX's were that quick they only do a 15.0 (stock) in the Qtr.

I wonder if I had been running premium instead of regular and had tried him from a dig that the result would have been different. I never have gate shifted on any of my encounters does it make a difference?

Might be time for headers...
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I'd definitely suggest starting with some premium fuel and then invest in some headers and an intake if you don't already have one. Our 4th gear sucks so that's why he pulled at 100+. The RSX-S K20A2's love aftermarket bolt-ons so it doesn't take much to make them much quicker than a stock 15 flat.
Old 03-15-2007, 02:04 PM
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Please start by using premium fuel, it'll make a world of differences and your car will like you a lot more.
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Higher octane fuel makes a world of difference in your car. You'll probably get better MPG too.
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If you read the owners manual it tell you to use an octane of 91 or higher. Using regular can cause clogged injectors. Should be able to take an rsx
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i raced a 06 RSX -S from a dig at a stop light.. had a car on him off the start and only kept pulling. he must of been modded a lot more then u thought...

the rsx i raced def had exhast.. and a HUGe stoc ASPEC wing and wheels..

i was stock then.
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I raced a RSX-S that had at least intake, Turbo ,and exhaust maybe more. He beat me by 2 in the 1/8. He had a better launch than me which killed me in the 1/8 mile. I was gaining at the end wish I had more road.
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Originally Posted by crippler22
I raced a RSX-S that had at least intake, Turbo ,and exhaust maybe more. He beat me by 2 in the 1/8. He had a better launch than me which killed me in the 1/8 mile. I was gaining at the end wish I had more road.
Are you sure he had a turbo, maybe more?

What the hell is gateshifting? I have never heard of this before; is this the same as powershifting/no lift shifting? Is it shifting an auto tranny using the 2 3 and 4 selectors etc?
Old 03-16-2007, 01:24 AM
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gate shifting is like :

if the tranny were an eye ball, u taking a metal spike and swirling into ur eyeball..

if gateshifting to u guys is what i know gateshifting as.
Old 03-16-2007, 04:40 AM
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awrite dude... first off, go premium, its worth the higher dollar, i put regular once, never again, and you shouldnt be losing to rsxS's non turbo period..... take care of your car and it will take care of you....
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lol, yea, all auto's need to learn to gateshift, that SS doesent cut it from 1 - 2
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Unless he had a turbo or Sc'er that makes no sense. An auto CLS should be clearly faster then the RSX-S, even if the RSX had a few bolt on's. I'd suspect your car was the problem. Your IMRC working? & yeah use 93 gas.
Old 03-16-2007, 02:32 PM
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regular gas ruined you... RSXs put up a good fight. get headers and always use permium you should always win against a mildly modded RSX.

if you get all bolt ons it'll frustrate the bolt on RSX drivers because no matter how hard they get on it you will always be slightly faster and ahead of them once you get up in speed.
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p.s. YAY HEADERS! they should be on there WAY!
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Originally Posted by Benb18a
Are you sure he had a turbo, maybe more?

What the hell is gateshifting? I have never heard of this before; is this the same as powershifting/no lift shifting? Is it shifting an auto tranny using the 2 3 and 4 selectors etc?
I know he had a turbo. He admitted to it after the race. He was also running DOT approved auto cross tires. Even with a bad launch my SS would beat a RSX-s with bolt on's and slicks. With a better launch I would have probably beat him or maybe tied.
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Originally Posted by fuzzy02CLS
Unless he had a turbo or Sc'er that makes no sense. An auto CLS should be clearly faster then the RSX-S, even if the RSX had a few bolt on's. I'd suspect your car was the problem. Your IMRC working? & yeah use 93 gas.
rsx-s with intake, race header, exhaust and kpro wont be beat by a naturally aspirated cl-s.
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Originally Posted by crippler22
I know he had a turbo. He admitted to it after the race. He was also running DOT approved auto cross tires. Even with a bad launch my SS would beat a RSX-s with bolt on's and slicks. With a better launch I would have probably beat him or maybe tied.
an rsx with the cheapest turbo kit should be running at least 250 whp. which should be capable of running low 13s in the 1/4. a N/A cl-s doesnt run that.

a high horsepower FWD car is not going to do that well in the 1/8 becuase they wont get traction untill the race is over.
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if it was an 05+ they're tuned differently stock and can pull a 14.9 stock....but thats only the 05-06.
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Good Run !!! Some RSX's can be pretty quick.
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Originally Posted by miker_types
lol, yea, all auto's need to learn to gateshift, that SS doesent cut it from 1 - 2
Please elaborate so we can learn
Old 05-08-2007, 09:01 AM
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Originally Posted by Dirty Type-S
p.s. YAY HEADERS! they should be on there WAY!
Since my defeat at the hands of the four banger I have added XS Headers and trimmed three tenths off my quarter mile time.
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Originally Posted by Presto
Please elaborate so we can learn
Instead of using the SS mode, where you slide the shifter over to the left into it's own little slot, just pull the shifter all the way to the bottom and then to the left where it's labeled D1 and manually shift it through the "gate" pattern: D1 -> D2 -> D3 -> D4 -> D5. It's a little weird at first to get used to because you have to remember left to right, then up, up again, etc instead of SS mode where it's just either up or down with the gear indicated on the digital dashboard read out. I used it in a few street encounters and it definitely felt like the car was quicker plus obviously you can choose when to shift from 1 to 2. In SS mode the car shifts from 1 to 2 automatically no matter what.
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ty super trooper, yea from a dig it makes a big difference, in SS you cant rev it all the way up, so other manual cars can get a big jump on you, well i used it but to each his own,
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Originally Posted by AznX TL
if it was an 05+ they're tuned differently stock and can pull a 14.9 stock....but thats only the 05-06.
All RSX-S can pull 14.9 stock. Its been done many times from 02-04. The 05-06 can pull 14.7 stock with a great driver. Ive seen it on clubrsx.com.
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now is there a lifting of the gas pedal when gate shifting? never thought this would be helpful.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
All RSX-S can pull 14.9 stock. Its been done many times from 02-04. The 05-06 can pull 14.7 stock with a great driver. Ive seen it on clubrsx.com.
No wonder I have beaten so many of them, lol
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
All RSX-S can pull 14.9 stock. Its been done many times from 02-04. The 05-06 can pull 14.7 stock with a great driver. Ive seen it on clubrsx.com.
Yea but the CL-S can pull a 14.7 continous with an average driver stock. Put a great driver in it and who know what it can pull down. With a rsx-s 0-60 of 7.2 sec at best compared to our 6.3 sec avg..there is no reason a stock rsx-s should beat a Cl-s as long at the CL-s is properly taken care of. I'm no expert driver but I've killed plenty of rsx-s's. Yea they are fast cars if driven properly but ours are just slightly faster. If you get beaten by a rsx-s chances are they are not stock sorry just my
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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
Yea but the CL-S can pull a 14.7 continous with an average driver stock. Put a great driver in it and who know what it can pull down. :
There is a great driver in mines and he got it down to 14.3, lol
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Originally Posted by CLS6SpeedNupe
There is a great driver in mines and he got it down to 14.3, lol
my point exactly ...ha ha.
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but seriously though...I give the car most of the credit, lol
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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
Yea but the CL-S can pull a 14.7 continous with an average driver stock. Put a great driver in it and who know what it can pull down. With a rsx-s 0-60 of 7.2 sec at best compared to our 6.3 sec avg..there is no reason a stock rsx-s should beat a Cl-s as long at the CL-s is properly taken care of. I'm no expert driver but I've killed plenty of rsx-s's. Yea they are fast cars if driven properly but ours are just slightly faster. If you get beaten by a rsx-s chances are they are not stock sorry just my
No one doubts that the CL-S is a fast car. Im letting you know what a stock RSX-S is capable of. Their 0-60 is around 6.6 seconds not 7.2 seconds. It is a drivers race still between the two cars depending on the driver of both. My cousin has a RSX-S with I/H/E so I am familiar with them.
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
No one doubts that the CL-S is a fast car. Im letting you know what a stock RSX-S is capable of. Their 0-60 is around 6.6 seconds not 7.2 seconds. It is a drivers race still between the two cars depending on the driver of both. My cousin has a RSX-S with I/H/E so I am familiar with them.
After review and a little research I realized I was incorrect. I did not realized they were that quick. Perhaps I was reflecting on my experiences with the TSX I use to drive (even they are ~6.9) Actually I looked on C&D and I know its just a magazine # but it quotes the 2005 rsx type S with a 0-60 of 6.2 sec (impressive ) I have a new respect for the brotha rsx...sucks they are in the same boat as us w/ discontinuation. I agee totally with Satin as it would be a drivers race. Ok cool your cousin has one....line it up with a CL-S with comparible equipment (I/H/E) and let us know who wins... best of three of course.
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Originally Posted by cbusAcuracls
After review and a little research I realized I was incorrect. I did not realized they were that quick. Perhaps I was reflecting on my experiences with the TSX I use to drive (even they are ~6.9) Actually I looked on C&D and I know its just a magazine # but it quotes the 2005 rsx type S with a 0-60 of 6.2 sec (impressive ) I have a new respect for the brotha rsx...sucks they are in the same boat as us w/ discontinuation. I agee totally with Satin as it would be a drivers race. Ok cool your cousin has one....line it up with a CL-S with comparible equipment (I/H/E) and let us know who wins... best of three of course.
rsx will win it responds to mods alot better
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Originally Posted by drewJ32A2
rsx will win it responds to mods alot better
I think you are full of ........a CL type S responds to mods very well..30 WHP from headers alone not to mention that those same headers move the HP peak 500rpm higher into the rpm range according to a dyno of a 01 CL type S by comptech.
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
I think you are full of ........a CL type S responds to mods very well..30 WHP from headers alone not to mention that those same headers move the HP peak 500rpm higher into the rpm range according to a dyno of a 01 CL type S by comptech.
comptech is full of **** with 30whp. A CL-S auto with I/H/E hauls ass. It will run low 14's. A RSX-S with I/H/E hauls ass and it will run low 14's. Again a drivers race!
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Originally Posted by drewJ32A2
rsx will win it responds to mods alot better
not true. they respond similarly. Both accept mods well. Great ECU's!
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Originally Posted by YeuEmMaiMai
I think you are full of ........a CL type S responds to mods very well..30 WHP from headers alone not to mention that those same headers move the HP peak 500rpm higher into the rpm range according to a dyno of a 01 CL type S by comptech.
and u know alot by believing a manufacturers claims. i bet you beleive aem rediculous claims with their intake.

Cl gets very little gains from exhaust and intake. i had a cl-s and put a CAI on and felt hardly anything
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Originally Posted by SatinSilverAV6
comptech is full of **** with 30whp. A CL-S auto with I/H/E hauls ass. It will run low 14's. A RSX-S with I/H/E hauls ass and it will run low 14's. Again a drivers race!

nope. an i/h/e rsx-s is good for 14.50ish. i raced an intake, race header, catless exhaust 04 rsx-s last week in my auto 03 cl-s from just about every speed and it's dead nuts even up till 110, and there is no way my STOCK auto cls is going low 14's. now i raced the same car but an 06 with those same mods and kpro and lost pretty good from a roll. that car would probably go high 13's@100ish. the 05-06's come with them hype-r cams
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Originally Posted by AnthraciteTypeS
nope. an i/h/e rsx-s is good for 14.50ish. i raced an intake, race header, catless exhaust 04 rsx-s last week in my auto 03 cl-s from just about every speed and it's dead nuts even up till 110, and there is no way my STOCK auto cls is going low 14's. now i raced the same car but an 06 with those same mods and kpro and lost pretty good from a roll. that car would probably go high 13's@100ish. the 05-06's come with them hype-r cams
Guys on clubrsx.com have ran 14.3@98MPH with I/H/E. They definantly average mid 14's but are capable of low 14's. I know a CL-S with I/H/E is also capable of 14.2-14.3 with those mods at best in auto form. You just had a race where the RSX guy didn't drive it to his full potential. Hondata is the only non- forced induction way of getting the RSX into the 13's.
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Originally Posted by Oakroadsteve
Heading west yesterday on the Sawgrass expressway a silver RSX typeS passed me just past the toll booths. I sped up and hung with him until we hit a nice open stretch. I passed him at full throttle and he came after me but was then blocked off by another car. When he got free he started pulling on me strongly. Seems like I hit a brick wall at 110 with the automatic.

We both got off on the Commercial exit and I slowed down to about 20mph on Commercial so we could go at it. He nailed it just before I did and started pulling right away. As the Vtec engaged I narrowed the gap slightly but by the time I hit 85 or so he had a couple of cars on me and to add insult to injury pulled partly in my lane and then slowed and exited left at the next light.

Sounded like he had an intake and exhaust even though he appeared stock. I did not think the RSX's were that quick they only do a 15.0 (stock) in the Qtr.

I wonder if I had been running premium instead of regular and had tried him from a dig that the result would have been different. I never have gate shifted on any of my encounters does it make a difference?

Might be time for headers...
This is why you stay in 3rd gear longer to up your RPMs before hitting 4th.


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