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Old 05-21-2007, 10:36 PM
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Originally Posted by CLS6SpeedNupe
The guy that was running 13.8 wit the maxima is now running 13.4. I dont know what he got done now, but i know he is N/A. There is now another guy running 13.8. Neither of them are running on street tires. I believe they are on 16 inch leight weights wit drag tires.
i was gonna get on you for bumping an old thread, but since it's your thread, i guess i can't really say too much to harass you. Well, other than the fact that i remember reading this one last yr when you originally posted it

That guy you know must have some internals done or some other trick up his sleave. I haven't played around much on maxima.org in a while (since i no longer own a max), but it sounds like he was pretty well maxed out on bolt ons. You've definitely got me curious though...any chance of you meeting up with this guy and seeing what all he has?
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Originally Posted by CLS6SpeedNupe
The guy that was running 13.8 wit the maxima is now running 13.4. I dont know what he got done now, but i know he is N/A. There is now another guy running 13.8. Neither of them are running on street tires. I believe they are on 16 inch leight weights wit drag tires.
drag radials ftw.
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Originally Posted by 03silvertypeS
i was gonna get on you for bumping an old thread, but since it's your thread, i guess i can't really say too much to harass you. Well, other than the fact that i remember reading this one last yr when you originally posted it

That guy you know must have some internals done or some other trick up his sleave. I haven't played around much on maxima.org in a while (since i no longer own a max), but it sounds like he was pretty well maxed out on bolt ons. You've definitely got me curious though...any chance of you meeting up with this guy and seeing what all he has?
yea i seen under his hood, from what i could see all he has is intake header and full exhaust. I dont know what other little power mods are out for those cars, I KNOW he has more because his engine looks the same from the previous year when his best was a 13.4
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i raced a what appeared to be a Stock 3.5 maxipad 2003+ against my CL-S auto with intake on the highway and i easily walked him... i guess our J32 motors are good for something.. high end powa FTW! our cars arent really track cars..... so why beat it up at the track!...
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Originally Posted by Dirty Type-S
i raced a what appeared to be a Stock 3.5 maxipad 2003+ against my CL-S auto with intake on the highway and i easily walked him... i guess our J32 motors are good for something.. high end powa FTW! our cars arent really track cars..... so why beat it up at the track!...


I totally concur.
I rather have top end than low end any day.
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As one who had an 02 Maxima SE and now has an 07 Accord V6, I would rather have the low end. Hard 0-60mph sprints (Maxima) wont necessarily garner any traffic citations but 130 mph+ runs (Accord) will pretty much guarantee it.

Sidenote: My Maxima (4AT) was governed @ 130mph so, top end contests were rather moot.
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
I believe the local guy with the red cl w/ carbon fiber hood/trunk ran a high 13 prior to putting nitrous on his car and like a 14.1 with just the cold air intake.
I think he is supercharged. I got a 13.8 with an auto last year.
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I think he is supercharged. I got a 13.8 with an auto last year.

No he is not superchared, i know him. Hey man I heard about you and the blue 6 Speed Maxima (Jaypee).....thats not good, we need to talk
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Originally Posted by CLS6SpeedNupe
How do these two cars compare performance wise. Which one is faster over all. I got a buddy wit the 02 3.6 speed with bolt ons, he says his best 1/4 time is 13.6 and I saw him go 13.8 today. I havent seen anyone in my area with a fully modded bolt on 6 speed CL at the track so I was wondering how the both cars compare stock and modded. I have read the articles on each but im intrested in know what they have been known to do, not what a company supposedly tested.
here is my 2 cents from watching stock-->modded 02/03 max 6spds at the track. Stock vs stock they should be dead even. May be a tenth seperates each car at the end of the day 14.6 vs 14.5 but its negligable when drag racing because it gets canceled out by reaction times, who ever gets the jump gets the win. Intake, headers, exhaust, again the same results low-mid 14's depending on the weather, dead even seperated maybe by an insignificant tenth or two. Now the reason why those maxima's are dippin' into the 13's with more mods, is because there are simply more mods available for the VQ35, thanks to the research done on the 350Z. The maxima can get: cams, plenum, Y-pipe, ecu's, etc. To keep up with all those toys the CLS can get an MDX block, bringing its displacement to 3.5 liters, and I think that the guys who did that on this forums ran a 13.3, with full bolt ons.
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Thats MDX block sounds a lot easier and cheaper said and done.
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Originally Posted by tommyguy2
here is my 2 cents from watching stock-->modded 02/03 max 6spds at the track. Stock vs stock they should be dead even. May be a tenth seperates each car at the end of the day 14.6 vs 14.5 but its negligable when drag racing because it gets canceled out by reaction times, who ever gets the jump gets the win. Intake, headers, exhaust, again the same results low-mid 14's depending on the weather, dead even seperated maybe by an insignificant tenth or two. Now the reason why those maxima's are dippin' into the 13's with more mods, is because there are simply more mods available for the VQ35, thanks to the research done on the 350Z. The maxima can get: cams, plenum, Y-pipe, ecu's, etc. To keep up with all those toys the CLS can get an MDX block, bringing its displacement to 3.5 liters, and I think that the guys who did that on this forums ran a 13.3, with full bolt ons.
Generally correct, although plenum spacers are only compatable with the VQ35DE for the FM models (M35, FX35, G35, Z) not the FFL/A33 models (Maxima, Altima, Quest, Murano, I35).
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Originally Posted by CLS6SpeedNupe
Thats MDX block sounds a lot easier and cheaper said and done.
If you're interested in cost, etc, talk to TypeR or CleanCL. They've both got 3.5L CLs.
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i have a vendetta out against maximas...i got beat by a 02 mt max with intake headers exhaust and safc or neo (dunno which on he had) im comin for him tho...i got some goodies in teh house waitin to b put on and i thnk he will b surprised at the power comin from the whip!
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Originally Posted by L's TL
i have a vendetta out against maximas...i got beat by a 02 mt max with intake headers exhaust and safc or neo (dunno which on he had) im comin for him tho...i got some goodies in teh house waitin to b put on and i thnk he will b surprised at the power comin from the whip!

LMAO...let me gues, that Maxima was blue. Join the club, thats actually the maxima that this tread is about, lol. So whatever you got planned, now you know what he runs and what your up againts. I have known this guy for years so i will admit that he is one hell of a racer and it wont be so easy for you or me to mod our cars and beat him N/A.
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na i know who ur tlkin about tho...his max is sick...this max was silver tho...they r boys
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na i know who ur tlkin about tho...his max is sick...this max was silver tho...they r boys

Yea I know him to, they were both running 13s at the track the last time I was with them. You must got some heavy stuff in the house if you gonna mess with that. I was actually wat Fridays last week and they showed up so i warned the dude with the silver one that in a couple weeks im coming to get him, and i dont plan on lossing, lol
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yea put it this way...ima be pumpin out an xtra 40whp and it aint FI lol...last time i went to the track i ran a 14.1 ao with the newly acquired toys ill easily b in mid to high 13s...more mids tho
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Im scared of you.......
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Here you guys go

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ive driven an auto 02 maxima se and an auto 07 maxima se and i personally like the cl better all around.

everything in the maximas felt kinda loose and cheap. and i was just completly confused driving the 07 because u cant feel or hear it shift. and it refused to up shift a few times when i floored it, it just got stuck at the top of second gear until i let off the gas. (and no, it wasnt in tip tronic.i know som1 would probly suspect that, because if youve driven one it does tend to kind of just slip over there when in d5 )
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yea that 07 Maxima got the CVT? or something that makes you not tell when its shifts. quiet and stuff. According to what i saw on TV
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yea im def gona get lower than 13.7 in 2 weeks...and i dnt even have a stick!
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13.7???? I'm hoping for a 14.7
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yea im def gona get lower than 13.7 in 2 weeks...and i dnt even have a stick!

If you do that I think you "might" have the fastest 3.2 auto TL-S N/A.
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Originally Posted by CLS6SpeedNupe
If you do that I think you "might" have the fastest 3.2 auto TL-S N/A.

that would b nice...im just waiting on the guy who owns this shop to get back from vacation...once i get with him ill b ready...ill prolly run between a 14.1-14.3 this week...we'll c tho..i wanna c how this cold air i made fairs on the track
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Honestly, how do you expect to drop in the mid 13s without using nitrous or something? You mentioned getting lower then 13.7 in a couple of weeks. I'm just curious in general.
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
Honestly, how do you expect to drop in the mid 13s without using nitrous or something? You mentioned getting lower then 13.7 in a couple of weeks. I'm just curious in general.

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You can drop it into the mid 13's with every single bolt on and DR's. Thats what Im going for now
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
Honestly, how do you expect to drop in the mid 13s without using nitrous or something? You mentioned getting lower then 13.7 in a couple of weeks. I'm just curious in general.
well........i didnt wana mention anything until i actually got it done but i purchased a unichip and a apexi neo and the guy who is gona tune it for me sed the combination of the two is gona pump out some serious HP...so im just waiting on him to get back from vacation so i can get all of this installed ...he sed he ran the same setup on an accord v6 and it took almost a whole second off the 1/4mile
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Our cars aren't really ideal for drag racing. It's a waste of time more or less. A 13 second car isn't even exciting.
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
You can drop it into the mid 13's with every single bolt on and DR's. Thats what Im going for now


But you have a j32a2 6 speed swap in your accord right? ...if so, its a different situation as he's an auto.
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Originally Posted by L's TL
well........i didnt wana mention anything until i actually got it done but i purchased a unichip and a apexi neo and the guy who is gona tune it for me sed the combination of the two is gona pump out some serious HP...so im just waiting on him to get back from vacation so i can get all of this installed ...he sed he ran the same setup on an accord v6 and it took almost a whole second off the 1/4mile


Ok cool, good luck.

Why did you get both the unichip and the neo? Don't both of them adjust fuel/etc? I would think they do the same or similar in functions....
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unichip was only $100 and the neo ive wanted for a while now...plus they are slightly diff...i was skeptic about getting boht at first until i saw that accord with both and saw the #'s he put down...thats all i needed to convince me...as well as a $100 unichip
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Headers came today. If I had already ran the car before stock and had a time i was happy with I would get them installed tomorrow so i could have them on the car for the track friday
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I beat one of those back in the day with my 3.0 on my 125 shot. Lost the first two runs against him since my tires were cold. But once my tires heated up and got sticky, I had traction, and beat him on the 3rd run. Hard car to beat at the time, nevertheless.
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yea they are respectable cars. The drivers that drive them though are cocky. lol
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Originally Posted by blk2001tlon19s
But you have a j32a2 6 speed swap in your accord right? ...if so, its a different situation as he's an auto.
In that case it will be hard

By the way does the Unichip mess with timing or anything else or does it merely change the A/F ratio like the VAFC NEO (excluding VTEC stuff)? Seems like a waste to combine the two.
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Originally Posted by Accord_V6_400m
In that case it will be hard

By the way does the Unichip mess with timing or anything else or does it merely change the A/F ratio like the VAFC NEO (excluding VTEC stuff)? Seems like a waste to combine the two.

changes ignition timing...basically acts as a piggy back for the oem ecu...and changes everything the ecu does...dont think it affects vtec but the neo does...BUT i will b swaping this shitty ass auto with the 6sp MT by then end of the summer..
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Originally Posted by L's TL
changes ignition timing...basically acts as a piggy back for the oem ecu...and changes everything the ecu does...dont think it affects vtec but the neo does...BUT i will b swaping this shitty ass auto with the 6sp MT by then end of the summer..
Good luck with the 6spd swap. are you keeping your Auto ECU? Whynot just get a Greddy Emanage or a similar piggy back? It can do everything te Unichip and Neo can.


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