srehmat02

Thanks. I will definately shoot him over a PM.

TheWeez

I'd guess it's just a matter of build and tune? Even putting 2 identical cars that rolled off the line one after another with 2 equal drivers at the same weight will yeild different results. I had a '93 SHO that was the fastest automatic in stock form ever. 14.89 when others couldn't break 15.5 from the factory no matter how much they tried.

sgmotoring

With those mods, both your HP should be about equal. You shift 3 times and he only had to shift twice to 100mph. If an auto jump on you in 1st gear, it is hard to chase an auto down even with manual trans. Who called the start? Did you have a passenger and full tank of gas? If you were head to head in first gear and the auto pulled on you in second or third then I will inspect the car. If he pulled away everytime you shift, then you need to shift faster. If he jumped on you in first then RE-RACE!

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

I'll save you the trouble and just reply to your post Just let me know when. I only have school Tuesday through Thursday but its 16 units in those three days Not bad though I get afour day weekend.

Hopefully i'll be installing my supercharger kit when I get mine and the parts to make it complete.

srehmat02

Thanks alot. I am going to go for a new clutch before I install the supercharger, so it will be in a couple of weeks, when will you be getting yours?

aznboi2424

iTrader: (10)

i bet your exhaust sounds better and your getting better mileage now that you fixed your piping problem too.

srehmat02

It sounds much better... love EVOII tone.. turns alot of heads from Z and G owners, they never expect a CL. My gas mileage has also improved, but I have yet to measure it.

Accord_V6_400m

iTrader: (1)

We'll see, i'll probably just install the kit to ensure completeness and then possibly sell it to help out my family if they really need it by then. Still waiting for it to get here from NY.

I'll be using my stock clutch for now though, although I would probably get a stage 3/4 kit with their flywheel.

SuperTrooper169

iTrader: (2)

Another obvious question but you never know. Are you using premium or regular gas? Can obviously make a huge difference. Also I know a lot of people run Seafoam through their IM and it seems to work good. I don't have any personal experience with it but might be worth a shot.

srehmat02

I know this may be a dumb question.. but is a clutch job any harder once the supercharger is in? I already will install that torque damper before the supercharger goes in, but what about the clutch?

edawg036spd

I've heard the Comptech headers add 34 hp at the wheels is that true

VWNOWHONDA

you may have a bad coil pack. Pull that spark plug if it is covered in carbon and real wet your coil is not sparking hot enuff and could be bad....

srehmat02

Yeah, I am still throwing the P0172 rich code. I am replacing the spark plugs, so I guess I can replace the coil packs as well. I will inspect them first. Where is the best place to buy coil packs?

VWNOWHONDA

If it is giving the bank 1 code. it should only be the number coil pack that is bad. The best place for these are the stealership for the part.

subbuzz

stock for stock(my friends cl-s6 vs cl-s auto)both know their car's and both can drive.
https://acurazine.com/forums/showthread.php?t=178208

i raced the cl-s auto in my tl-s(auto) and it wasn't pretty.(beat him by about 3 lengths)

srehmat02

Hey guys,
I noticed one thing wrong when I am under WOT.
My RPMs seem to rise inconsistently, not smoothly, but stop and go stop and go Under VTEC, I can feel it pulling then stopping then pulling and stopping (happens very fast)
Could this be a sign of my clutch slipping or misfiring?

nbennettksu

iTrader: (2)

engine misfire.

NightRider

Take the car to redline, and don't question doing it. Even though you could be making less peak HP at 6800 than at 6100, the difference in max HP gain is what counts if you have headers on a high rev'er like ours. The headers also help straighten out the drop in both HP and TQ near redline. If between those rpms the WHP drops 10, yet you gain 30, aren't you still +20?

To answer that question yes comptech dynos have shown 25-30 WHP gain from headers.

Check OBDII and clutch for sure. I know before I put a new clutch on my legend the rpms jumped up crazily and would catch/let loose/catch/let loose.

rp_guy

1 2 3 4 5 6
0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0 0.0
100 0.6 0.9 1.3 1.8 2.3 2.9
200 1.1 1.8 2.6 3.6 4.6 5.8
300 1.7 2.7 3.9 5.3 6.8 8.7
400 2.3 3.6 5.2 7.1 9.1 11.5
500 2.8 4.5 6.5 8.9 11.4 14.4
600 3.4 5.4 7.9 10.7 13.7 17.3
700 4.0 6.3 9.2 12.5 16.0 20.2
800 4.5 7.2 10.5 14.2 18.2 23.1
900 5.1 8.1 11.8 16.0 20.5 26.0
1000 5.7 9.0 13.1 17.8 22.8 28.9
1100 6.2 9.9 14.4 19.6 25.1 31.7
1200 6.8 10.8 15.7 21.4 27.4 34.6
1300 7.4 11.7 17.0 23.1 29.6 37.5
1400 7.9 12.6 18.3 24.9 31.9 40.4
1500 8.5 13.5 19.6 26.7 34.2 43.3
1600 9.1 14.4 20.9 28.5 36.5 46.2
1700 9.6 15.3 22.2 30.3 38.8 49.1
1800 10.2 16.2 23.6 32.0 41.0 51.9
1900 10.7 17.1 24.9 33.8 43.3 54.8
2000 11.3 18.0 26.2 35.6 45.6 57.7
2100 11.9 18.9 27.5 37.4 47.9 60.6
2200 12.4 19.8 28.8 39.2 50.1 63.5
2300 13.0 20.6 30.1 40.9 52.4 66.4
2400 13.6 21.5 31.4 42.7 54.7 69.3
2500 14.1 22.4 32.7 44.5 57.0 72.1
2600 14.7 23.3 34.0 46.3 59.3 75.0
2700 15.3 24.2 35.3 48.1 61.5 77.9
2800 15.8 25.1 36.6 49.8 63.8 80.8
2900 16.4 26.0 38.0 51.6 66.1 83.7
3000 17.0 26.9 39.3 53.4 68.4 86.6
3100 17.5 27.8 40.6 55.2 70.7 89.5
3200 18.1 28.7 41.9 57.0 72.9 92.3
3300 18.7 29.6 43.2 58.7 75.2 95.2
3400 19.2 30.5 44.5 60.5 77.5 98.1
3500 19.8 31.4 45.8 62.3 79.8 101.0
3600 20.4 32.3 47.1 64.1 82.1 103.9
3700 20.9 33.2 48.4 65.9 84.3 106.8
3800 21.5 34.1 49.7 67.6 86.6 109.7
3900 22.1 35.0 51.0 69.4 88.9 112.5
4000 22.6 35.9 52.3 71.2 91.2 115.4
4100 23.2 36.8 53.7 73.0 93.5 118.3
4200 23.8 37.7 55.0 74.8 95.7 121.2
4300 24.3 38.6 56.3 76.5 98.0 124.1
4400 24.9 39.5 57.6 78.3 100.3 127.0
4500 25.5 40.4 58.9 80.1 102.6 129.8
4600 26.0 41.3 60.2 81.9 104.9 132.7
4700 26.6 42.2 61.5 83.7 107.1 135.6
4800 27.2 43.1 62.8 85.4 109.4 138.5
4900 27.7 44.0 64.1 87.2 111.7 141.4
5000 28.3 44.9 65.4 89.0 114.0 144.3
5100 28.8 45.8 66.7 90.8 116.3 147.2
5200 29.4 46.7 68.1 92.5 118.5 150.0
5300 30.0 47.6 69.4 94.3 120.8 152.9
5400 30.5 48.5 70.7 96.1 123.1 155.8
5500 31.1 49.4 72.0 97.9 125.4 158.7
5600 31.7 50.3 73.3 99.7 127.6 161.6
5700 32.2 51.2 74.6 101.4 129.9 164.5
5800 32.8 52.1 75.9 103.2 132.2 167.4
5900 33.4 53.0 77.2 105.0 134.5 170.2
6000 33.9 53.9 78.5 106.8 136.8 173.1
6100 34.5 54.8 79.8 108.6 139.0 176.0
6200 35.1 55.7 81.1 110.3 141.3 178.9
6300 35.6 56.6 82.4 112.1 143.6 181.8
6400 36.2 57.5 83.8 113.9 145.9 184.7
6500 36.8 58.4 85.1 115.7 148.2 187.6
6600 37.3 59.3 86.4 117.5 150.4 190.4
6700 37.9 60.2 87.7 119.2 152.7 193.3
6800 38.5 61.1 89.0 121.0 155.0 196.2
6900 39.0 61.9 90.3 122.8 157.3 199.1
7000 39.6 62.8 91.6 124.6 159.6 202.0
7100 40.2 63.7 92.9 126.4 161.8 204.9
7200
redline 40.7 64.6 94.2 128.1 164.1 207.8

rp_guy

i have NO IDEA what you're talking about. you want to be at max TORQUE. hp is fairly irrelevant if there's no torque. and you are not gaining 30hp at every RPM, it's a peak point where you gain it over stock. this again is irrelevant if you are making less torque than if you shifted into another rpm range giving you more torque.

1st - 3.933, 2nd - 2.478, 3rd - 1.700, 4th - 1.250, 5th - 0.976, 6th - 0.771, Reverse - 4.008, Final Drive - 3.286

http://www.car-videos.com/tools/spee...B1=Recalculate

http://comptechusa.web01.yourhost.co...cls6spd_sc.pdf

NightRider

Torque and horsepower act mutually on eachother. Torque helps get you going and Horsepower keeps you going. My Dad has a old school Dodge Ram turbodiesel with 400lb ft torque, does this mean it is necessarily going to be faster than my CL? No because believe it or not, it only has 160HP to go along with that torque. It is 0-60 in maybe 9 seconds. If you check on some of the newest trucks out, you'll see alot of them are 300+HP in even the base models. I'm not sure about why a S/C CL was used for comparison when I was speaking of only headers (and "mufflers" apparently), but take a look at this dyno...

http://comptechusa.web01.yourhost.co...000CLSplot.pdf

Try and find a similarly trannied/modded (both with headers would be ideal) CL in your area and have a couple highway runs. You stay between 3500-5500 to have your max torque and have the other person take it to redline, let us know who wins...

Or if you don't want to be quite as silly, shift at 6100 so that your out of VTEC in the next gear and at max torque, and let us know how it goes.

ironsurfer129

Its The Header =)

Sun Diego CL-S

i just saw this thread (haven't spent much time in 2G CL land recently).
Samir. i don't know if you've fixed or cleared the codes by now but, if you want, you can have our SD mechanic check it out for you. PM me to see when you may be available to go so that i can tag along since i too have something for him to look at.

NightRider

I just get in the habit of saying headers because there are 2 manifolds.

Sun Diego CL-S

Samir. were you able to talk to Ty? just checking whether or not we're meeting.

srehmat02

Sent you over a PM, but I can't make it today. Sorry man.

Sun Diego CL-S

PM'd you back. you don't need me to go there with ya.

Sun Diego CL-S

were you able to get a hold of him after all?

srehmat02

Left him a voicemail on Friday, asking if he was available on Wednesday. He didn't respond yet.