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Old 03-02-2005, 10:54 PM
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CL-S vs M3

I was on my way to lunch and i see this M3 (old model, not the 333 hp one) getting on the freeway. He had exhaust, body kit, and a nice set of wheels. I pull up next to him and he starts smiling. I never raced and M3, i was expecting to get smoked really bad. Soon as I heard his exhaust vibrating i floored it. We were dead even during my second gear. When my car shifted to third i lost like 1/2 car length, but i pulled next to him at like 6000 rpm and slowly started gaining on him. I cut off at like 120 because i could see traffic building up ahead. When i looked back he was right behind me. After that i was really pumped and shaking with adrenaline LOL. Are we supposed to beat M3's??? Maybe he was a bad driver?
How many horsepower do the old m3's have?
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A driver's race determines anything.
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yea tru i pulled with a supercharged GT mustang a while back... i know that if we were off of the line i would have had my ass handed to me! but it def. depends on the driver!
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But are CL's faster than old M3's?
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Originally Posted by LTRAIN
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The CL-S can take an E36 with a good driver.
Old 03-03-2005, 01:42 AM
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Let me add in on this....

Stock for Stock

CLS AT vs M3 AT --> the M3 should edge them out...but it will be pretty close

CLS6 vs M3 MT --> driver's race
Old 03-03-2005, 07:56 AM
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Originally Posted by JDMj20acL
yea tru i pulled with a supercharged GT mustang a while back... i know that if we were off of the line i would have had my ass handed to me! but it def. depends on the driver!

I'll turn on Channell 2 if I wanna C BS
Old 03-03-2005, 07:57 AM
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Originally Posted by Dem1K
Let me add in on this....

Stock for Stock

CLS AT vs M3 AT --> the M3 should edge them out...but it will be pretty close
Wrong. My good friend has a 97 M3 Auto and we have raced many times even when I was stock, he would beat me until about 20 and from then on I would walk away. When I added my mods it got even worse especially on the highway.
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Originally Posted by juruki
But are CL's faster than old M3's?

The previous gen of M3's could pull 60 in under 6 seconds.
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Originally Posted by CLintguy
The previous gen of M3's could pull 60 in under 6 seconds.

the cls is like 5.8 or 5.9 rated 0-60 also.
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^^^ with h/i. w/o h/i an auto cls will pull a ~6.6 0-60
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i believe the last gen m3 was rated at 240/240 hp/torque
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Originally Posted by kevin79925
the cls is like 5.8 or 5.9 rated 0-60 also.

Where??? G35's (auto sedans) are rated 6.3 - 6.6 and invariably smoke CL-S's.
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a cls w/intake and headers will run 5.8-5.9 i.e., low 14s.
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its about the same power in both cars, but M3's ahve alot more torque and lighter i'm guessing. plus the RWD
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Originally Posted by juruki
But are CL's faster than old M3's?

I'd say so. I beat 3 different ones. Really close, but won none the less.

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Originally Posted by CLintguy
Where??? G35's (auto sedans) are rated 6.3 - 6.6 and invariably smoke CL-S's.

Where did you learn how to drive?
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Originally Posted by CLintguy
Where??? G35's (auto sedans) are rated 6.3 - 6.6 and invariably smoke CL-S's.
i was talking about the 6 speed cls hehe.
http://www.car-videos.com/performanc...?id1=183&id2=0

the autos are rated at like 7.1 or something like that

the 6 speed G35 coupe is 5.5 rated anthe auto is around 6.2

the older m3 is 5.5 0-60 and low 14s 1/4 mile.

so it would definately be a drivers race against a 6 speed cls... auto would have to be heavily modded.
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Magazine racer stats:

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Obtained from R&T July, 2002
0-60: 6.5 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 14.9
1/4 Speed: 96

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Obtained from C&D July, 2002
0-60: 5.9 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.6
1/4 Speed: 98

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
Obtained from C&D April, 2003
0-60: 5.5 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.2
1/4 Speed: 100

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Infiniti G35 Sedan
Obtained from C&D May, 2002
0-60: 6.2 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 14.9
1/4 Speed: 96

Car-Stats.com Report for 1998 BMW M3
Obtained from MT August, 1998
0-60: 5.5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 14
1/4 Speed: 99

These are all close enough that it would be a driver's race...especially someone behind the wheel of a manual. Our beloved auto CLS needs H/I to be competitive.
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I agree with the ME and G35 coupe, but the sedan I have beat several times
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Originally Posted by Seattle Cl-S
Magazine racer stats:

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Obtained from R&T July, 2002
0-60: 6.5 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 14.9
1/4 Speed: 96

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Obtained from C&D July, 2002
0-60: 5.9 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.6
1/4 Speed: 98

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
Obtained from C&D April, 2003
0-60: 5.5 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.2
1/4 Speed: 100

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Infiniti G35 Sedan
Obtained from C&D May, 2002
0-60: 6.2 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 14.9
1/4 Speed: 96

Car-Stats.com Report for 1998 BMW M3
Obtained from MT August, 1998
0-60: 5.5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 14
1/4 Speed: 99

These are all close enough that it would be a driver's race...especially someone behind the wheel of a manual. Our beloved auto CLS needs H/I to be competitive.
Good post.

As I've said in previous racing threads, if the cars are within .5 secs of eachother . . . it comes down to the driver. Also, another big factor is how well the cars are maintained. So posted results are just guidelines and not a guarantee that the technically faster car will win.

Ruf
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Originally Posted by JDMj20acL
yea tru i pulled with a supercharged GT mustang a while back... i know that if we were off of the line i would have had my ass handed to me! but it def. depends on the driver!
What are your mods? Sure it was blown? ...cause w/out a blower/n2o of your own(or unless it was a 5spd and he couldn't drive to save his life) he'd walk you from roll, stop, or if he gave you a lead.
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Originally Posted by Seattle Cl-S
Magazine racer stats:

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Obtained from R&T July, 2002
0-60: 6.5 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 14.9
1/4 Speed: 96

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Acura 3.2CL Type-S
Obtained from C&D July, 2002
0-60: 5.9 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.6
1/4 Speed: 98

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Infiniti G35 Coupe
Obtained from C&D April, 2003
0-60: 5.5 Transmission: Manual
1/4 Mile: 14.2
1/4 Speed: 100

Car-Stats.com Report for 2003 Infiniti G35 Sedan
Obtained from C&D May, 2002
0-60: 6.2 Transmission: Automatic
1/4 Mile: 14.9
1/4 Speed: 96

Car-Stats.com Report for 1998 BMW M3
Obtained from MT August, 1998
0-60: 5.5 Transmission: Unknown
1/4 Mile: 14
1/4 Speed: 99

These are all close enough that it would be a driver's race...especially someone behind the wheel of a manual. Our beloved auto CLS needs H/I to be competitive.

6 speed CLS >* CL
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lol pretty cocky for a guy w/a fwd car only running 13s
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lol pretty cocky for a guy w/a fwd car only running 13s

I'll change my tune when an M3 beats me for once
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mrsteve do you beat the new m3's?
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Originally Posted by juruki
mrsteve do you beat the new m3's?
He should be able to keep up with them no problem, probably beat a few drivers who don't know what they're doing. Especially the ones that are only keeping up with stock '04 TLs and modded TL-Ps :p
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Originally Posted by juruki
mrsteve do you beat the new m3's?
They are normally a good race
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You must be having fun in your CL....
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Originally Posted by Mike
^^^ with h/i. w/o h/i an auto cls will pull a ~6.6 0-60
wrong.... a MT CL6 can do 0-60 in under 6 sec stock.. No need for i/h to do that...
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What abooot a 2003 CLS 6 speed, with Supercharger Intercooler, Headers, Exhaust ...

what kind of 0-60 times could that thing do ? or 1/4 mile times ?


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Originally Posted by xJukax
What abooot a 2003 CLS 6 speed, with Supercharger Intercooler, Headers, Exhaust ...

what kind of 0-60 times could that thing do ? or 1/4 mile times ?


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2.3 0-60 10.75 @129 MPH
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wow, ok thats a little out of budget what about with just headers exhaust, and intercooler ( btw do u really need an intercooler or will it any significant increase if u dont got supercharger or turbo) or without intercooler ? and how much HP would that give u ?

Thanks heh,

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An intercooler is only needed for force inducted vehicles... you're probably talking about a tranny cooler? right?
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nvm, im a nub ... umm

High Flow Air Intake (icebox??) ... thats the one

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I was joking about those numbers by the way
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I/H/E = Intake / Headers / Exhaust... i guess are the standard basic bolt ons.
Intake/Exhaust would give it a couple of horsies...headers would be the best investment..headers alone i've seen 20+hp..best bang for your buck..everytime i tell my friends headers for our cl-s would give 20+hp they would just think im bullshitting..i was amazed too when i first got my cls....

to sum it up.. I/H/E= 25-30ish+ hp to the wheels? someone correct me if im wrong b/c i don't have headers YET..soon to come though.

ohyeah a little off the topic here..SOMEONE PLEASSSSSSE! let me test drive your 5spd Comptech supercharged CLS i wanna feel how it kicks! i need motivation to save up money and pick a SC'er up! PLEASE?!


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