CL-S Rim/Tire match?
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CL-S Rim/Tire match?
I can't justify buying new rims at this time for my 2003 CL-S but want better tires. Is it better to go one size up from the stock to say (225/50/17) or go with (235/45/17)? Or should I stay with the stock size and just get better tires?
P.S. My driving style is not overly agressive but I would like a little more grip.
Thanks!
P.S. My driving style is not overly agressive but I would like a little more grip.
Thanks!
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I did a lot of looking at this issue, partly because I had a pulling problem with the OEM Michelins. Tire Rack wanted to sell me 225/50/17's but I just couldn't fathom raising the car up further. It is so high already it looks like a Xover vehicle. But Tire Rack wouldn't sell the 235/45/17s because they're rated for a wider rim -- at least 7 1/2". So I did buy new rims and the 235/45/17s -- Michelin pilotsport AS. I wasn't particularly enamored of the OEM rims anyway so I don't miss them. You can get pretty good and nice 7 1/2 or 8" rims for not too much, and the tires fit right then. There might be some insurance concern if your tires are not rated for the rims and they blow and your car is damaged...
03 6spd
17x8" OZ Racing wheels
03 6spd
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I had to buy a new set of tires after some bubbling in the stock Michelins, and pondered the same questions that you have.
If you go with stock sized tires (215/50-17), you'll find a very small selection to choose from. Remember, you are not only trying to match size, but load rating (93 or greater), and speed rating (V or greater).
If you go with 225 series tires (either 225/45-17 or 225/50-17) you're odometer/speedometer will be slightly off. Most folks have not cared at all about this. I do.
If you go with 235/45-17 tires, you will mount them out of spec. They require a 7.5" or greater rim width. Once again, many have mounted these tires out of spec without any issues. I did not want to mount an out of spec tire on my car.
You will find a MUCH larger choice of tires in the 235 series size, and the odometer/speedometer will remain very close to stock.
I went through all these issues and ultimately bought a new set of rims so I could fit my car with 235 series tires within spec. I thought that I'd get a larger group of properly sized tires to choose from with a larger rim. Over the life of my car, I'd have better choices for tires with the larger rim.
I got my SSR GT1s in 17"x7.5" from TireRack for $300 each. They're well worth it. They're well made forged rims that are lightweight. I have no rubbing whatsoever with a Comptech drop. The SSR Compititions are also pretty nice. I also thought about the OZ as well.
If you go with stock sized tires (215/50-17), you'll find a very small selection to choose from. Remember, you are not only trying to match size, but load rating (93 or greater), and speed rating (V or greater).
If you go with 225 series tires (either 225/45-17 or 225/50-17) you're odometer/speedometer will be slightly off. Most folks have not cared at all about this. I do.
If you go with 235/45-17 tires, you will mount them out of spec. They require a 7.5" or greater rim width. Once again, many have mounted these tires out of spec without any issues. I did not want to mount an out of spec tire on my car.
You will find a MUCH larger choice of tires in the 235 series size, and the odometer/speedometer will remain very close to stock.
I went through all these issues and ultimately bought a new set of rims so I could fit my car with 235 series tires within spec. I thought that I'd get a larger group of properly sized tires to choose from with a larger rim. Over the life of my car, I'd have better choices for tires with the larger rim.
I got my SSR GT1s in 17"x7.5" from TireRack for $300 each. They're well worth it. They're well made forged rims that are lightweight. I have no rubbing whatsoever with a Comptech drop. The SSR Compititions are also pretty nice. I also thought about the OZ as well.
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Originally posted by Slimey
I had to buy a new set of tires after some bubbling in the stock Michelins, and pondered the same questions that you have.
If you go with stock sized tires (215/50-17), you'll find a very small selection to choose from. Remember, you are not only trying to match size, but load rating (93 or greater), and speed rating (V or greater).
If you go with 225 series tires (either 225/45-17 or 225/50-17) you're odometer/speedometer will be slightly off. Most folks have not cared at all about this. I do.
If you go with 235/45-17 tires, you will mount them out of spec. They require a 7.5" or greater rim width. Once again, many have mounted these tires out of spec without any issues. I did not want to mount an out of spec tire on my car.
You will find a MUCH larger choice of tires in the 235 series size, and the odometer/speedometer will remain very close to stock.
I went through all these issues and ultimately bought a new set of rims so I could fit my car with 235 series tires within spec. I thought that I'd get a larger group of properly sized tires to choose from with a larger rim. Over the life of my car, I'd have better choices for tires with the larger rim.
I got my SSR GT1s in 17"x7.5" from TireRack for $300 each. They're well worth it. They're well made forged rims that are lightweight. I have no rubbing whatsoever with a Comptech drop. The SSR Compititions are also pretty nice. I also thought about the OZ as well.
I had to buy a new set of tires after some bubbling in the stock Michelins, and pondered the same questions that you have.
If you go with stock sized tires (215/50-17), you'll find a very small selection to choose from. Remember, you are not only trying to match size, but load rating (93 or greater), and speed rating (V or greater).
If you go with 225 series tires (either 225/45-17 or 225/50-17) you're odometer/speedometer will be slightly off. Most folks have not cared at all about this. I do.
If you go with 235/45-17 tires, you will mount them out of spec. They require a 7.5" or greater rim width. Once again, many have mounted these tires out of spec without any issues. I did not want to mount an out of spec tire on my car.
You will find a MUCH larger choice of tires in the 235 series size, and the odometer/speedometer will remain very close to stock.
I went through all these issues and ultimately bought a new set of rims so I could fit my car with 235 series tires within spec. I thought that I'd get a larger group of properly sized tires to choose from with a larger rim. Over the life of my car, I'd have better choices for tires with the larger rim.
I got my SSR GT1s in 17"x7.5" from TireRack for $300 each. They're well worth it. They're well made forged rims that are lightweight. I have no rubbing whatsoever with a Comptech drop. The SSR Compititions are also pretty nice. I also thought about the OZ as well.
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Originally posted by lou
only one thing to say about this
fawk those stupid 17 x 7 size wheels leave that size for the Civics. I strongly believe this car belongs on 235/45 zr 17 with a 93 rating or above....Scooters Perillis Pzero nero speros are real hot also
only one thing to say about this
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I think that it's pretty annoying that Acura chose a stock tire size that has a very limited selection to choose from.
They should have picked something that gives the owner a variety of choices over the life of the car. 215/50-17 really doesn't allow that.
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I chose to stay with the stock rims and standard size tire, so decided to go with Yoko's AVS ES-100's, 215/50/17's. There nice and sticky, corner well and look great. If I should consider a larger tire in the future, then I'd problably go to an 18" wheel.
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.5"-1" will not matter. The Toyo's I have are rated at 7.5" I do agree you could be in trouble if you had a big difference like a wide ass tire 265 or more on a 7" wide rim. There are just so many people that have no problems with a 235 on stock rims.
As far as Tire Rack, they only say that to avoid insurance problems with them. I'd never buy tires from them anyway.
As far as Tire Rack, they only say that to avoid insurance problems with them. I'd never buy tires from them anyway.
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Originally posted by lou
only one thing to say about this
fawk those stupid 17 x 7 size wheels leave that size for the Civics. I strongly believe this car belongs on 235/45 zr 17 with a 93 rating or above....Scooters Perillis Pzero nero speros are real hot also
only one thing to say about this
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it's freaky how well these tires hold compared to the Pilot Sport A/S's...since the PZero Nero's load rating is about 500 pounds MORE than the Pilot Sport A/S's, it BETTER b noticeable
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i sound like a broken record, but i gotta push to support the PZero Nero's in 235/45/17 size specifically b/c it's an extra load tire, and considering this car's weight, u need all the support u can get...if u want other sizes, the load rating is pretty similar to other max perf. tires like Pilot Sports or S03's, so the choice is not as easy
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Just put on the Sumitomo HTR+ in stock siz . They are excellent in all categories - especially wet grip. Highly recommended to anyone needing to swap out theor OEM Michelins. Tirerack.com at $77 each - how can you beat that???
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Originally posted by Scooter
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it's freaky how well these tires hold compared to the Pilot Sport A/S's...since the PZero Nero's load rating is about 500 pounds MORE than the Pilot Sport A/S's, it BETTER b noticeable![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
i sound like a broken record, but i gotta push to support the PZero Nero's in 235/45/17 size specifically b/c it's an extra load tire, and considering this car's weight, u need all the support u can get...if u want other sizes, the load rating is pretty similar to other max perf. tires like Pilot Sports or S03's, so the choice is not as easy
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it's freaky how well these tires hold compared to the Pilot Sport A/S's...since the PZero Nero's load rating is about 500 pounds MORE than the Pilot Sport A/S's, it BETTER b noticeable
![Wink](https://acurazine.com/forums/images/smilies/wink.gif)
i sound like a broken record, but i gotta push to support the PZero Nero's in 235/45/17 size specifically b/c it's an extra load tire, and considering this car's weight, u need all the support u can get...if u want other sizes, the load rating is pretty similar to other max perf. tires like Pilot Sports or S03's, so the choice is not as easy
I think that the PZero Nero and the Toyo T1S Proxes are the only tires in 235/45-17 with re-enforced casings and very high load ratings. I think that only the Michelin MXM4 El-Yucko OEMs are the only 215/50-17 sized tire with the re-enforced casing and high load rating. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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Originally posted by Slimey
I think that the PZero Nero and the Toyo T1S Proxes are the only tires in 235/45-17 with re-enforced casings and very high load ratings. I think that only the Michelin MXM4 El-Yucko OEMs are the only 215/50-17 sized tire with the re-enforced casing and high load rating. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
I think that the PZero Nero and the Toyo T1S Proxes are the only tires in 235/45-17 with re-enforced casings and very high load ratings. I think that only the Michelin MXM4 El-Yucko OEMs are the only 215/50-17 sized tire with the re-enforced casing and high load rating. Please correct me if I'm wrong.
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