I've had my CL-P for a month now..and love it. I test drove both the CL-P and CL-S on the same day that I bought the car and didn't really feel taht much a difference...acceleration wise. Maybe cuz I really wasn't testing the cars too hard. Anyways I just wanted to hear what fellow CL-P's and CL-S's had to say. I know the CL-P's ride is softer...

 

I test drove the TL-P and TL-S (about the same as the CL-P/CL-S I guess) and I felt an immediate difference between the cars. First off the seats in the S are much more comfertable. The second thing I felt was the major difference in acceleration. I left it in D5 and only pushed up to probably 4500 and already the difference was notable. I didn't really feel a difference in the ride though. I was worried the S's ride would be overally harsh but it wasn't. I've never had an opportunity to corner a TL-P hard before so I haven't really felt a difference in suspension....

 

FYI

CL-S and CL-P seats are the same.

 

Ok, dun flame me on this.... But past Sat. me and couple friends went to Acura Southwest in Houston to test drive the TL-S and RSX-S.... well, dun worry about the RSX-S for now.... I drove my CL-P, with CAI, Pulleys, and Denso plugs, the TL-S is all stock with 300miles on it....

We found a safe and empty road to test both cars... We ran 6 runs from 0-80mph, CL-P won 5 times, and TL-S won once.... Ok, before yall pull the BS flag, its true! A friend standing as a flag pole, so its a fair launch.... Maybe the car is too new or something, but it happened the way it is... We even switch cars, same thing...

1st run - VSA and TCS OFF, both in D5, CL-P lead off the line, and kept leading half a car length all the way down to 80mph.

2nd run - VSA and TCS OFF, both in SS, shift at redline on both. CL-P lead off the line, and kept leading 1 length all the way down.

3rd run - VSA and TCS ON, both in SS. CL-P got a jump, because TLS VSA kicks in and lock the front up, so CL-P just jump and lead 3 cars down.

4th, 5th, 6th, same run, but switch drivers.

5th run - VSA and TCS OFF, both in SS, the TLS launch better and CLP catch up next to it when CLP VTEC kicks in the whole time, until 2nd gear in TLS VTEC kicks in, TLS lead 1/2 car length all the way to the end...

Conclusion - Doesnt mean CLP is faster or anything, but maybe TLS too new or driver not get used to TLS/CLP.... I think CLP with Intake, Pulleys, and Denso plugs should be able to hang/trail little with a "STOCK" TLS/CLS, but sure will not be one of those BLOWN away thing liek GS300/GS400

Hope this help!

 

In everyday driving, you will probably not notice much of a difference if at all; however, on the track, that extra 35 HP does help, but not blown away .

 

local.. there isnt that much difference... but Oh the freeway.. u WILL feel the difference between Clp and CLS.... i drove my friend's TL before ,,, on the freeway type S will Pull harder because of the redline especially in 2nd and 3rd...

 

What every one is trying to say is when the tach gets above 4000 rpm's the TYPE S differentiates itself. Also if you drive the TYPE S deep into a corner it'll stick better than the P. However, under everyday commute situations very little difference shown.

[ 07-12-2001: Message edited by: bone_stock ]

 

That's of course assuming you're one of the people that wait until redline to shift thier cars, or that you floor it that often. I've only hit redline twice in my CL-P so far. Once because I was in a pissy mood and once because I completely forgot I had it in SS mode. oops Was on the turnpike and after I went through the booth I wondered why it wasn't shifting. Did about 50-60 or so though in 2nd.

To me I'd probably never notice the power difference. I drive 7.5 miles to work, all through town or smaller back roads where you stop about 40 times or more on a bad day.

 

One major benifit the CL-s has over the
the CL-p is the intake manifold. Most of
the kick in the CL-s comes from that
spacious dual-stage intake system.
Sorta like a supercharger it adds
x-tra head pressure. This very simply
generates more horsepower. Now if we could only have some faith in that acuator.

But don't get me wrong, 225hp in the CL-p is
to bad at all!

 

Excuse me! Whom ever posted that the seats in the P and S are the same has obviously never sat in the Type S!

They are MAJORLY different!

The seats in the CL-P are like pillows whereas the Type S seats cradle you and support your back (very well) and have perforated leather!

 

My car seems (is) a lot faster than my dad's '99 TL!

As for the issue concerning the CL-P and CL-S seats, they are totally different. Why do people post sh!t that is blatanly incorrect?

 

Thank you sundance gold--saves me from having to respond to that ludicrous statement.

 

Actually, the seats are the same save for the leather. However, there is an extra 1/8" of soft foam padding over the dense-cell padding under the CL-P leather that the CL-S doesn't have in the center of the bottom cushon....I got that info from someone I know at a local dealer.

OK, I'm not gonna condecend to the CL-P vs. CL-S debate but.....

Part of the reason the CL-S feels faster is in that it actually is (once weight vs. torque becomes irrelevant....and HP takes over). At higher speeds the CL-P will lose.....period. The other part the CL-S feels faster is visceral....that sweet sound adds immediacy.

My 0.02.

 

Imagine how much faster a CL-S would be over the CL-P if it had 16s. Just something to think about. I might be buying a set of 16s for track use.

Spiro

 

Now you are thinking... I might do the same thing.



[ 07-12-2001: Message edited by: Black CL-S 4-Life ]

 

Hmm. my frient had a pair of 13's from his civic hatch back.

 

The CL-S seats seem more square and also have different sides to "hold" the occupant. The two seats seem totally different to me.

 

Wonder if the actuator in the TL-S you drove is working...

 

It sure is working, why yall people are like whenever someone say CLP can hang with a CLS/TLS, someone must say "Oh something wrong with that other car and bla bla bla" Respect please!

 

Yo morons, when I said they were the same I was not refering to the 1/8" of extra foam padding in the seats. Nor was I talking about the "little hairy holes" that all of you CL-S owners seem to have. I didn't know CL-S owners always needed so much clairification.

I meant that the overall design was the same. The memory settings, the 8 way adjustable seats, the headrests, the side airbag are all the same.

Yea, before you flame me the seats are a little different, but 98% the same.

 

yo moron....I agreed with you. :p

 

I bought the car for the motor...period.

 

Thanks, all I did was state my opinoin that the seats are overal the same and I get jumped by 3-4 CL-S owners tell me about the 2% of the seats that are SO different.

Whewwww...It's not safe around here for CL-P owners.

 

the CL-P may have 16s, but it also has monster tires with a huge sideway. I'm going to guess that the out diameter of the 16" CLP and the 17"CLS tires are the same.

 

How do you think I feel? Look at my sig....

I've been catching shit since the old H-A.net. I just gave up with that debate.....they're like f-in pirhanas.

 

...also I think they weigh about 8Lbs more than the CL-S rims.

 

Obviously there is difference between CL-P and CL-S and the difference is definitely noticable. However, not everyone likes the difference, for example, my family doesn't like the relatively harsh ride of type s and the engine noise at high speed of the 260hp engine. I am not saying these difference are bad just that not everyone likes them.

 

Hmm...there is a little difference in the torque band...a lot broader and what 14 lbs. more...so, if you raced with a CL-S and kept let the car shift at 4K...the CL-S would pull ahead ever so much...
But yeah...like I said..I bought the car for the motor....

 

Dammit, do the CLP Rims protrude like our CLS rims??? I already scratched one!

 

Yeah...and way uglier too.

 

HAHAAHA...learn to use the auto down mirrors...