rarora

i don't have a lot of money but I'd like to squeeze a little more performance out of my base 01 CL. Can you give me some ideas on what the cheapest way to add a little pep to my engine and about how much it would cost? Thanks.

mattg

OBX or Stone headers. they will make a noticable difference and come in around $500 installed.


or you could buy these. it's a hell of a deal if it's legit.
http://www.acura-cl.com/forums/showthread.php?t=151015


the comptech headers are of much better quality than the OBX or Stone, but they are over a $1000 new.

pooky

Hey,
on the topic of headers..saw the OBX and Stone... any other brands
worth looking into??

sxsublime

AEM V2 Cold Air Intake. great mod, will run you about 275 new, sounds MEAN! you will not regret it believe me. also a self install

mrsteve

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Headers > Intake

for power increase.

Buy the used set that Matt posted. I paid the same price for my set....

pooky

Geeeez, $275-$1000......
thanks for the thread but that link goes back to Jan.. not sure if they are
still around and...need to wait a bit before spending for $$$...

Now, why such a wide range $$$ on headers?? What am i getting
for $650 (comptech) vs AEM V2 from sxsublime???.. HP differences???

mrsteve

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Headers ~25-30 hp

Intake ~5-10 hp


Choice seems clear to me...

evilone

about 10 whp from the aem and 32 whp from the headers.... headers best bang for the buck...

pimpscls

headers you will be happy man 25-30 hp and .3-.4 off your 1/4 mile

pooky

Hold it!...what i meant was..why the big difference in $$$ in
the header market...$265 vs $1000 for the comptech...
why such a price swing? Just trying to get an idea on quality
of product etc...
thanks.

klepto

stickers. true story

sxsublime

i say V2 because i hear so many bad things about OBX headers that im not even sure they are worth it. Yea theres a bigger gain, but i wouldn't buy headers unless i knew they were quality like comptech. OBX, do a search and see the experiences people have with them. to answer your question its as simple as you get what you pay for. Comptech will definetly fit your car perfectly and will not break, never heard a bad story about them while OBX might fit your car, possibly need fabrication and may crack. V2 is a simple way to open up your car. simple install, not to much money, and sounds sick as hell. In my opinion it goes V2 then headers.

TranceFusion

go for the comptech icebox...

TypeS_boi

Am I missing something? Has the V2 come out for the CLS already? Sorry, haven't followed up on it lately. V2 is only for CLP applications.

sxsublime

i just assumed he had a p cuz it dont say type s in his sig. if u have an s get a CT ice box..

rarora

non type s, add HP seems more expensive than I thought.

rarora

Any idea where to get this AEM V2 Cold Air Intake and how much gain it will give you?

mrsteve

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sixgearcl

i got my aem intake for 215... car sound hella hot...

headers, here i come

darrinb

headers or some spray

ABChin324

cheapest way to add hp boost..... buy some octane booster!!!!! lol

rarora

err ya..that doesn't work...embarrasingly, i have tried that.

SiGGy

Approx $700 for a 75 shot of nitrous. (could be done cheaper if you shop around)

Put your car into the 13's you'd smoke a CLS /w headers and intake.

sxsublime

c-c-c

best place to buy anything for your car!

oneilc

Headers work like so:
low rpm range - take away some power
mid rpm range - minimal gain (1-5hp)
high rpm range - maximum gain 25+ hp

So basically unless you're going to be racing ... headers aren't worth it

Go with the CAI ... 5-10 hp gains across the rpm range

rarora

i wonder if i'd even feel 5 to 10 HP

Chopsie

You asked about the V2
Check the Black Market forum of this site and Acura-TL.com
Check this out too.
http://search.ebay.com/Acura-CL-AEM-...ectZ1QQfromZR8

Chopsie

you may not feel it, but you will surely hear it, trust me, sounds badass.
But in terms of power, headers are the best bang for your buck like the others said.

oneilc

5-10hp at the wheels so I'm sure it would make a difference. I'm planning on getting a CAI myself.

mattg

so you never take your car into vtec on the street? come on.

oneilc

Check this out [For the 2001 CLS]http://www.comptechusa.com/images/dyno/2000CLSplot.pdf

You can see that the gains you get are minimal until 4400 rpm (5hp) and not significant until 5800 rpm (13hp). The headers don't even begin to add power until 3000rpms.

Basically you really need to push your car to the redline to get the full benifit of headers. I must bow to the fact that they give you an extra 32hp at 6600rpms.

All I said is that headers are not for the average ho-hum driver who never takes his engine over 3500rpms

allmotor_2000

If you only drive from 2K-4K RPMs then you probably don't need Headers but that one time when you want to pass someone... then you'll love it!! Headers was the first mod I bought for my car... it had 80 miles on it and I have never taken them off (well, the manifolds at least!). Comptech ones are very good quality.

pooky

Looking back here.... would you guys agree for the CL-S the way to go
for intake is the CT ice box?? and, CT for decent headers?
Thanks!

sxsublime

the only probem i have with the ice box is that it looks to stock to me. if you dont want noise go for it. and ive read alot of people that said it gives better gains then an AEM CAI. its mostly just a matter of preference i think.

sixgearcl

how harmful is a 75 shot of nitrous??? long term effects?

MisterMehoff

= engine after rapid use and mistreatment of NOS. It's probably fun to have instant boost, but ultimately, it voids your warranty.

SiGGy

You have no clue what your talking about.


Lots of folks have a 75 shot on here, NOT ONE problem. I had one on for awhile, worked great and not one issue/problem. I took it off and sold if after awhile because I wasnt using it... not because I had nay problems. I just wanted the $$ back.

A lot of people do not understand nitrous, and post stupid things like this. I wish they would refrain from commenting on topics which they have no idea what they are saying.

There is NO difference between getting 75 HP from nitrous and 75 HP from a supercharger/turbo. N20, Supercharger,Turbo all equal the same thing, forced induction (adding extra oxygen/air and then fuel (gasoline)). The additional 75hp will not hurt the engine long term.

Major concerns with Nitrous is running lean or pooling gasoline with a wet system. However a lot of the new dry nitrous systems watch for a lean condition and shutoff if it happens. So it takes almost all of the worry out. One could just as easuiy go lean on their supercharger/turbo setup if something went wrong. It doesn't happen frequently at all... as with every mod there is some chance of problems...

There's a few guys on here that spray the piss out of their cars, and they haven't had one issue....

MisterMehoff

say that same statement when push a 75 shot and you obiviously know the ordeal w/ our fragile trannies. They are not stupid comments. But, arrogant sombitches like to chime in when they could convey their messages a little more maturely. I just wish people would face reality on certain situations.

From my clear example, something goes wrong w/ the tranny while you're spraying, who flips the bill for that? Not Acura. Why? because you voided your warranty by installing NOS. Anything you do with respect to the engine is risky, but we all know some things are more risky than others. Even w/ the S/C, things get risky. But you have Acura backing you in some respect because they obviously support Comptech.

So, would you get NOS(which voids the warranty) or a S/C(which is supported by Acura)?

SiGGy

Ahh, good you changed your tune to the tranmission over the engine exploding... LOL, Your comments were the engine would blow up. Which is BS, OK?

Same can be said for the turbo setup and the warranty/tranmission, I don't see anyone not putting it in. And the comptech supercharger modified which a lot of folks are putting in. The transmission will break just using it, WITHOUT any mods.

You can have warranty problems for all sorts of reasons. People have been denied for simply having aftermarket springs before.

Pick a topic buddy.

Sorry to jump down your throat. But I don't like people who give misguided information. Anyone who does their homework can run a N20 system safely. Your statement above says that anyone who sprays frequently will blow up their engine. Which I had to step in and say something...

sixgearcl

im sure most of the thing people do here can void a warranty.. turbokits s/c even dropping cars,

is the nitrous reversable or (feasible to remove) just in case if i gotta take it back to the dealer... .

also what system can someone recommend???