Even with the CAI the BMW owned him. What do you think? His name is one of the main reasons I didn't get a bimmer... Does Acura have an 'attitude adjustment' package available?
http://bimmerforums.com/forum/showth...&threadid=2796

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Red 3.2 CL-S.
"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
"Too many news programs have become public relations friendly" -Bill Oreilly
"People spend too much time finding other people to blame, too much energy finding excuses for not being what they are capable of being, and not enough energy putting themselves on the line, growing out of the past, and getting on with their lives." - J. Michael Straczynski

 

Yeah, actually Acura does have an attitude adjustment package, it's called COMPTECH and plenty of it.

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i guess i'll hold on to my $250.00 for now til someone can actually be convincing enough that the CAI can do more than just produce that growling sound! maybe i'll just get brighter back up lights and spend $20 only!!

 

I thought Xephyer's CAI added about an extra 10 hp to the wheels...

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No Mods yet

 

I won't get any mods for at least a year. There is not enough out there, and from what I've heard the CAIs don't do much.
What are sways? Thats another reason I won't have any mods installed. I don't know enough about them.

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Red 3.2 CL-S.
"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
"Too many news programs have become public relations friendly" -Bill Oreilly
"People spend too much time finding other people to blame, too much energy finding excuses for not being what they are capable of being, and not enough energy putting themselves on the line, growing out of the past, and getting on with their lives." - J. Michael Straczynski

 

what do u mean there is enough out there
comptech headers, 30 hp gain for our cl-s best headers you can buy, there is no other header out there that will give u that much hp

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2001 cl type s,custom voltage blue paint job, comptech headers, 18 inch ssr agle strusse rims(painted voltage blue with chrome lip), greddy evo exhaust, cross drilled rotors, pioneer avx 7000 tv, playstation2, iceman cold air intake(custom)nos fuel pressure regulator, piaa ion yellow fog lights, slammed on nex suspension (level ten torque converter and b&m tranny cooler)3.5 litre upgrade on april 16!(dommed topped pistons, mdx crankshaft, rods , bearings, heads ported and polished, vtec timing

my old car www.hondatech.org/99acv6ic.html
my cl http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...064&Sequence=0

 

The problem wasn't w/the cai. The cl couldn't get any traction.

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Comptech:Headers, Springs & Sways
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Toyo T1S Proxys 235/45/17
SSR Competition wheels 17x8
35% Llumar metallic tint
My Car

 

The Acura owner actually posted his tale of woe earlier on in this forum. The BMW driver is apparently his best friend. (Read "Disappointed in my CLS" by JDTypeS) Anyway, what it seems to come down to is basic physics. The 330i weighs around 400lbs less than the CLS if both cars are stock, and with the added mods on the CLS, plus the fact that he added the bigger, heavier chrome rims, he is not helping his cause. The bimmer also has RWD which helps his acceleration. The CLS's best chances, as someone else pointed out, is to put his stock rims back on, and take all his seats (except for the driver seat) out of the car and fill only a 1/4 tank of gas. Then maybe.

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That's my point... even with 300hp it still runs 15s.

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"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
"Too many news programs have become public relations friendly" -Bill Oreilly
"People spend too much time finding other people to blame, too much energy finding excuses for not being what they are capable of being, and not enough energy putting themselves on the line, growing out of the past, and getting on with their lives." - J. Michael Straczynski

 

15's Huh? Are you kidding me? Now I am getting the feeling that your not too familiar with what people have ran and proved on this site in the 1/4 mile.

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well maybe that kid didnt know how to drive, ive raced a 96 m3 and beat it and a new 330i and beat that or maybe his car is just slow and when i raced the m3 i only had intake, and to my knowledge the new 330 are almot the same as the 95-96 m3 motors (3.0) IN 97 the m3's came out with 3.2

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2001 cl type s,custom voltage blue paint job, comptech headers, 18 inch ssr agle strusse rims(painted voltage blue with chrome lip), greddy evo exhaust, cross drilled rotors, pioneer avx 7000 tv, playstation2, iceman cold air intake(custom)nos fuel pressure regulator, piaa ion yellow fog lights, slammed on nex suspension (level ten torque converter and b&m tranny cooler)3.5 litre upgrade on april 16!(dommed topped pistons, mdx crankshaft, rods , bearings, heads ported and polished, vtec timing

my old car www.hondatech.org/99acv6ic.html
my cl http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...064&Sequence=0

 

the car run s 14.9 stock



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my old car www.hondatech.org/99acv6ic.html
my cl http://albums.photopoint.com/j/View?...064&Sequence=0

 

Ok guys I did not want to say anything in the Disappointed with my car thread but I am fed up with this topic. I have an all stock CL-S, I raced with 330, 330 sucks dick up until the point where we either 1) reach 60-70 mph thats where that thing pulls very strong 2) we hit curves in the road. On a straight line give me 330 to race any time. And I did not test it on just one 330 so there. Get normal tires, stop showing off with chrome rims, and stop making useless mods to these cars. What did you get for your almost 1000 bucks with headers? 30 hp on a dyno? If anyone in NY/NJ wants to test their modded type-s with headers VS my stock one, I would gladly do it.

There got that out of my system

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...Get-in, sit down, shut up, HOLD ON....

 

Are you insinuating that Comptech Mods are bogus? Well, come to my Dyno meet and see for yourself. Well, since you don't seem to believe dynos then come down anyways and maybe we'll swing by Englishtown and take it to the 'tree'. I am not flaming you,just wondering if you are seriously willing to race your Type-S against modded ones to prove that. Lastly, you may want to stop by the Video Vault where a modded CLS blows the doors off a Type-R and a Type-S (stock).


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Ok... I stand corrected on the 15s.
How much money do you spend to get 40 more hp?
Also, if you have headers installed, and they come out with better ones later, can you have them installed? Can you upgrade the headers more than once?

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"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
"Too many news programs have become public relations friendly" -Bill Oreilly
"People spend too much time finding other people to blame, too much energy finding excuses for not being what they are capable of being, and not enough energy putting themselves on the line, growing out of the past, and getting on with their lives." - J. Michael Straczynski

 

I am saying that the price to performance ratio is rediculous. Yes dyno fine it will show you all the pretty graphs and numbers, and btw I volunteered to be the stock lab-rat but street is a different thing. I am not saying that a fully modded Type-S will not be faster it will be, but by how much??? .something of a second? thats idiotic for several thousand dollars. Yesterday me and my friends looked at an 89 Mustang modded to beyond imagination, beats 96 TwinTurbo Supras. Those mods I can understand, but pumping thousands of dollars into fraction of a second.....

And yes I will come to the dyno meet and I really want to see the street not dyno results

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2001 Silver CL-S w/o NAVI

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I agree with Arik.
Huge wheels just don't do much. They aren't cheap. What do you gain from 18" wheels?
Front wheel drive is limited. I read somewhere the supposed limitation on FWD is 210hp.
I figure if I'm going to throw my money into a fire, it'll be my girlfriend.

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Red 3.2 CL-S.
"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
"Too many news programs have become public relations friendly" -Bill Oreilly
"People spend too much time finding other people to blame, too much energy finding excuses for not being what they are capable of being, and not enough energy putting themselves on the line, growing out of the past, and getting on with their lives." - J. Michael Straczynski

 

Comptech Headers:
$1000 dollars for 40hp at the crank.
$25/hp.

Super Charger (est):
$4000 dollars for 130hp at the crank.(est).
$30.75/hp.

When you really compare, headers are a cheap mod.

 

What you get in looks you trade for in performance. I don't think it is possible to have both, IMHO.

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I don't measure a man's success by how high he climbs but how high he bounces when he hits bottom.
General Patton

 

18" wheels aren't drag strip equipment. The performance reason to buy them is handling around turns, ofcourse. If you choose 18lb sport wheels and not 40lb chrome wheels, it's very likely you'll have a better handling car. There's a reason BTCC race cars use 19" wheels.

 

Closer headers don't give you 40 they hardly give you 30, and for the last time, THE CAR WAS NOT DESIGNED FOR THIS!!!!! Its a luxury coupe, its not supposed to roar like a mustang or a vette, I saw someone in NY with chrome mufflers, prolly headers, racing past me. I am sorry but the car that looks like CL and is making mustang noises.... My first thought when I saw that guy was WTF?!?!? did he forget OIL or something? And its not that much faster either. Yes you calculated 20 bucks per HP, now calculate $$$ per seconds gained I don't think that number is very nice

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actually there are enough mods out there for our car. What else do you want...SC??
The CAI is only $250, so don't ask too much.
Everybody is happy with their CAI on the forum now; I LOVE MY INTAKE, the sound is so great.
If you don't know about sway...i think you should do a search or something(coz u are here to learn too)




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Comptech headers currently $1250 for I believe 30hp at the crank. That equates to over $40/hp.. but if people disagree and say there is 40hp at the crank then it is still over $30/hp. But I cannot think of any header which can produce such a big increase over stock numbers. I would buy on if I had the money to spare.. maybe later this year. =)

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2001 Satin silver CL-S
* no navi, spoiler, mudguards
* wheel locks, full front mask
* fenderwell and door trim

 

With the CAi, im saying you only get about 3-5hp, not 10. I have yet to race a 330, but when my day comes, hes goin DOWN!!!!!

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V-1 Radar Hard Wired, Limo Tint all around
Comptech Headers, Sways, and AEM CAI
I've got one of the CLS's from the fast batch.
Lead Foot!

 

Who ever says that the CAI doesn't do much for our car is full of shit. It took almost half a second off my 1/4 mile time.

 

They dyno says 8 hp, just FYI

 

Dyno'd 30hp at the wheels. Estimating a 25% powertrain loss that's 40hp at the crank. Group buy your headers and they cost 1000 bucks. Headers add little to no sound, unlike the CAI and most exhausts. You do or don't do what ever you want to your car but stop spouting off and telling everyone they're wrong with what they're doing.



I look and sound like the stock vehicle, but I am definately faster.


[This message has been edited by Closer (edited 04-18-2001).]

 

http://www.howstuffworks.com/question432.htm

I now know what sways are. Of course, the bit about the wheels loosing traction over bumps gets me worried...

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"Life is too short not to be Italian." -Paul Sorvino
"How do you expect your date to turn over if your engine doesn't?" -Original
"Too many news programs have become public relations friendly" -Bill Oreilly
"People spend too much time finding other people to blame, too much energy finding excuses for not being what they are capable of being, and not enough energy putting themselves on the line, growing out of the past, and getting on with their lives." - J. Michael Straczynski

 

I am not telling people what to do, I am saying that it is idiotic to put so much money for so little to gain.

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You know, one of the biggest reasons I got a CL-S is because I got tired of all the pin-headed little pricks pulling up to me at stoplights in my Cobra and wanting to prove to there 13 year old girlfriends that they rule the roads. So I decided to get a car that reflected my interests and maturing tastes, a quality, comfortable, economical car that I still enjoyed to wash on Saturdays. I also thought that the class of people that was associated with the car would be a step up, a little more mature and sure enough about themselves that they didn't feel the need to prove what a badass they were through their cars.
It seems I was mistaken. All day long I hear you guys go on and on about "I raced thi guy..." I raced that guy and..." "He's goin' down!!!" For fucks sake people grow up and figure out that OUR CARS ARE NOT FAST!!! I don't car if you put headers, CAI, level 90, chip, blah blah blah on the damn thing IT IS STILL NOT FAST! LEave the going fast for the sports cars. We have well-built, refined, quality LUXURY cars that get upwards of 25 mpg. and are a joy to drive even in heavy traffic.
So you say, "It's so fun to race..." No, it's more dangerous than anything unless you are on a track and we all know we don't go out and put $1500 worth of nods on a car ONLY to use them at the track. Sure, you can have fun by yourself in your car on some twisty roads or scenic drives, but don't try and pit yourself against someone elses machine and risk injuring your pride and making an ass out of yourself. You want fast? Sell your car, buy a Cobra/SS/Trans Am and put the $10k in cash you save into modifying one of those and you'll be close to the fastest damn thing on the road. But don't waste your time in racing a car that that costs $10k more than yours and then come back whining and say "Well all I need is headers, then I'd show 'em..." It's STILL a BMW, and there's always going to be someone who's faster. Be happy with what/who/where you are and take your girlfriend/wife on a cruise with the money you save.
Ok, done venting......

 

aeon THANK YOU!!! I am not saying I don't race people because some prick piss me off enough, for me to race them, but I don't do it with each freaking BMW/MB/all other good cars that come along, I know about my car Vs. BMW because my friend got one. I completely agree with you on the fact that the car that we have is not fast no matter what you do with it. my friend had an 88 supra 5spd turbo, the car costs fucking 500 bucks and he was pulling right next to me, and on the highway he was faster. So people get over it, you can put a BMW's price worth of mods into our cars, but nothing is going to change.

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Well hell for that matter. Don't even bother to buy an BMW M5. Manufacturers should just stop making cars faster, better handling and more powerful. All aftermarket parts makers should just close their doors because, we're just being plain stupid for wanting to enjoy our car, modify them and customize them. No one here really wants a sporty luxury car. What you really want is a CL-P. That extra hp of the CL-S, is worthless unless you're on the track. Sure it may be fun to drive faster cars and sure it may drive more interest in the cars... but that's not what Honda meant for it. So we shouldn't do it. Hell, imagine what Subaru is gonna think when people start making their 227hp WRX's 276hp just like the exact same car in japan. My god... they must be wrecking their cars. I mean, it's all wheel drive, 4 doors. It's designed for safely driving a small family... not racing or driving fast or having fun it. Jesus, when will you people learn, if you want a fast car buy an NSX, otherwise you're all wasting your time. Who cares if your TL-S stock is faster than any "sports car" in 1985, it's still not a "sports car" so drive slow, get good gas milage and don't for gods sake have any fun. Infact, I demand everyone go out right now and buy a toyota camry.

This post was pure stupidity and sarcasm if you didn't know. I just figured it fit the trend started by others.

[This message has been edited by Closer (edited 04-18-2001).]

 

Boy I love driving my CL-S


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Denso Spark Plugs
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Ok I'm done. I agree that people disagree. It's just this simple. If Acura had a TL-R that had 300 hp and costs $2500 more. I would have bought it. It didn't so I'm doing mods that make sense, don't ruin the ride and make is faster without trashing the car. Yes some people make their cars look stupid imo, but that's just my opinion. Beside it makes me look smarter with better taste.

 

Nor am I telling anyone what to do or not to do, I'm just saying that it is a lost cause.
Our cars excel in looks, refinment, and comfort, they will never excel in sport performance. (Too heavy, too big, FWD, etc....) Our cars are too prone to not being able to stop in time, lose control, and just too unstable under high acceleeration.
You all have the right to do what you want, but the day some little punk runs over my little girl trying to prove what a bad-ass they are I'm going to come find him and kill him.

 

Closer I can name cars starting from 60's to 80's that are faster than your TL-S. As a matter of fact I can put you against my friends 89 mustang right now, and bet money on the mustang or if you prefer an 88 Supra also owned by my friend. In addition what you said about WRX is a complete pile of BS. WRX is marketed as a sports car, noone ever called a family sedan. Type-S versus premium has its own advantages, and not only engine wise. As far as conversion companies closing their doors - why would that, its just that they should make parts for cars that are worth modifying. And just for the record NSX was a good sports car a long time ago, now its an overpriced, slow compared to others model. Oh and btw the problem with your M5 logic is that its in a same speed class as 911 turbo, which one is faster what do you think? So let sports cars be sports cars and let our cars be!

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Hmmmm...>interesting...The BMW is made totally differently. RWD vs FWD is a big can of worms...

 

I have an 88 Mustang GT and sold my 89 Supra Turbo.

My TL-S is faster, handles better, gets better gas milage, safer, hauls 5 people, looks better, is more respectable and is much more reliable.

If I can easily add another 100 hp I will. Then what will that make me, careless, wreckless, dangerous? No it'll put my car in the same category as a Jaguar XJR.

 

I have seen every type of car modded. These cars are whatever the owner wants them to be. Some go for style, some for speed, some for a little of both (me).


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Then your not really into the mod game. The best cars have tons of mods that all add up to great power. Yes, some are pricey but this is not a market for the weak in wallet. Hell, I can see your viewpoint but to some of us these mods are valueable and we like what they do to our cars.

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