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Old 01-02-2003, 03:58 PM
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cabin air filter replacement

car is just about to hit 18k miles
I think its about time I change the cabin filters....has anybody done this recently and if so can u tell me where to buy the filters and the whole installation process would be greatly appreciated also.
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change it at 30kmiles or each 2 years.

buy it from any Honda or Acura dealer whichever cheaper

Should be aroung $10 each and you need 2.
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Filters from dealer; cheap, $10 X 2 (+/-). Filters live behind the glovebox. Four screws remove outer cover. 1st time, inner moulded bracket requires cutting (You really need to look at a shop manual). And last, recommended cabin filter change is every 30k ..... unless you drive in Wyoming, West Texas, or Iraq.
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I don't think it will make a difference if I change them sooner. You see I use to drive my car to Ground Zero right after the WTC buildings came down so there is a possibilty that there is more than just pollen in those filters maybe not....but better safe than sorry. Anyway do u think its best that I by them through the dealer I thought they over charge for everything???
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Purolator supposedly makes a replacement cabin filter as well, PN:C15390. You can get it at any auto parts store.

They have a great PDF instruction sheet which, I think also applies to the Honda OEM filters - http://www.pureoil.com/Pics/Cabin_in...Fs/6943570.pdf

BTW, Honda has greatly improved the cabin filter replacement on the '03 Accord. Just flip down the glove box and slide it in.
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Originally posted by IntegraVT
Purolator supposedly makes a replacement cabin filter as well, PN:C15390. You can get it at any auto parts store.

They have a great PDF instruction sheet which, I think also applies to the Honda OEM filters - http://www.pureoil.com/Pics/Cabin_in...Fs/6943570.pdf

BTW, Honda has greatly improved the cabin filter replacement on the '03 Accord. Just flip down the glove box and slide it in.
I believe a few people have used those instructions and have gotten the cabin filter at number of local parts stores.

I'm going to copy this to the Archives.
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http://public.fotki.com/kavextrax/aircon_micron_filte/

There's instructions, written by our valued Park Avenue Acura Technician Jens, in the Extremely Useful Topics section of our forum. Take the Forum jump below.
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Originally posted by lou
I don't think it will make a difference if I change them sooner. You see I use to drive my car to Ground Zero right after the WTC buildings came down so there is a possibilty that there is more than just pollen in those filters maybe not....but better safe than sorry. Anyway do u think its best that I by them through the dealer I thought they over charge for everything???
Lou if thats the case, I would change em immediately for your sake and the sake of your passengers. Who knows what kind of micro particles are trapped in there.

You can order them online at automotiveacuraparts.net.
Dealers always make a healthy margin from parts.
Even from simple things like a filter.
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Yeah.. but shipping costs make the difference
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Originally posted by IntegraVT
Purolator supposedly makes a replacement cabin filter as well, PN:C15390. You can get it at any auto parts store.

They have a great PDF instruction sheet which, I think also applies to the Honda OEM filters - http://www.pureoil.com/Pics/Cabin_in...Fs/6943570.pdf

BTW, Honda has greatly improved the cabin filter replacement on the '03 Accord. Just flip down the glove box and slide it in.
IntegraVT, have you compared how the quality of the Purolator's construction is compared to the Honda filters's?

That's refreshing to hear about the new Accord. It should be that way from the beginning.
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lou, PS Most dealers do charge for "everything". 1 dealer hour to change subject filters @$65/hr and you're almost half way to the cost of the set of Acura shop manuals (2 - 1 electrical, 1 everything else). I'm recalling the set was $160 back in Oct '01.
Do yourself a favor, get the books, and RTFM (Read The Manual).
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just bought the cabin filters for like $13.50 a piece, the stock air filter for $20, and 2 stock oil filters for like $3.66 each everything came out to $53 no shipping, no tax from acurapartswholesale.com Im happy cause A and H Motorsport wanted $15 for each filter and $6 for shipping. :thumbsdn:
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Yea AHmotor is charging a premium, those filters really cost about $6 each.
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just changed the filters

Well guys I just changed the filters last night it took me about 20 min. since it was my first time. Let me just report that the filters were very dirty and even at 18k miles I think I will do this every 10k miles or yearly.
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Filters are easy to change once you figure out the release on the glove box and the cutting of the access piece. Change yearly your nose is worth it.
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i believe acura filters are made by purolator... just replaced mine, bought them at advance for $12.50 each.

i think i paid $20.00 a piece at acura several years ago.
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i never changed the filters, do i really have too?
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Wow, holy dug up useful buying filter thread.
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Geez.. how did the people survive 10 years ago???

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I change my filters every 6 months, regardless of milage. I live in northern VA now and the pollet/dust/road crap is nasty.

The filters are easy to change, takes maybe 7-8 minutes total. Took me about 9-10 minutes the first time as I had to find a pair of wire cutters and cut a few tabs of plastic...

My dealer wanted $180 total for parts + labor... (I heard another service advisor trying to convince some guy that it was complicated on the CL/TL and that $180 was a bargain)
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i will do it for free for any one living near Nashua!
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I just changed my filters at 60k for the first time and was completely disgusted at the color of the filter. It once was white and when I took it out, was a dusty gray color from all the soot and pollution. I think I'm going to change it every 15k.
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More filters...

If the Purolator pdfs are offline, here is yet another link with pics/pdf:

Pics:
http://www.baldwinfilter.com/products/pa4086.pdf

Yet another cabin filter link:

http://www.moonlightmechanic.com/sto...C+Cabin+Filter

http://www.corteco-usa.com/PROD/CAFilters.asp

#21700015 is supposed to add a carbon filter (combo filter)



Lots of people seem to be making these filters now...
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Wow, this sure is an old post, but I think I'll change out my filters since I've got 32k on the originals .
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Originally posted by Chemmech
Wow, this sure is an old post, but I think I'll change out my filters since I've got 32k on the originals .
I'm surprised there is still air flowing through your system

Do you supply O2 bottles and masks when the windows go up?
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i looked for jenns directions but i cannot find them, someone what to point me in the right direction?
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Originally posted by mretif
i looked for jenns directions but i cannot find them, someone what to point me in the right direction?
I cleaned up the original text from Jens (and here is the revised description):

Here is the excerpt from Jens on changing the "panel filter":


To access the interior air filters you will need a Phillips screwdriver, a pocket flat blade screwdriver and a sharp knife. Open the glove box and empty it of whatever you have been hiding in there.

There is an air piston on the right side that slows the opening speed it is attached to the door with a screw, remove the screw, and pop off the air piston.

There are two stops on the inside the glove box, pop both out with the small flat blade (screwdriver?).

The glove box will now open downwards, there are two Phillips screws holding the door to the dashboard structure. Remove both screws. The door can now be removed.

You will now see two Phillips screws that appear to hold nothing in place, remove these. Leave the metal clips in place.

There is a serrated panel visible -- it must be cut away from the dashboard structure. Save this panel as it is to be reused later.

There is now a vertical white plastic panel visible that can be snapped out of the way and removed.

The filters are the two vertical boxes that are now visible. Remove the bottom one first by pulling it towards you then lower the upper one and remove it as well.

Exchange the filters noting that they have arrows on them for airflow. The boxes that contain the filters are marked as well. Install the filters in the boxes and reassemble the filters into the air box. Take the white panel and snap it back in place.
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Now take the previously cut out plastic panel and turn it so the two hooks engage the two slots in the dash structure. The two screws that did not do anything are now used to secure this panel in place.

Reassemble the glove box in reverse fashion from disassembly.

This job should take you about twenty minutes or less.
(This link might return in a few days. All the .pdfs appear to be offline at this time.)
link: http://www.acura-cl.com/cgi-bin/ult...ic&f=1&t=002736

This link was provided further up this thread:

http://public.fotki.com/kavextrax/aircon_micron_filte/
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thanks, going to try it right now
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Originally posted by EricL
I'm surprised there is still air flowing through your system

Do you supply O2 bottles and masks when the windows go up?
I guess that would explain why my ears keep popping .
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Ha Ha...this is exactly why I don't own a BMW. I gave a co-worker of mine some flying lessons on a Saturday, this was back about 2000 or so and we were in my car (type R integra). Les owns a 3 series BMW and asked me to stop at BMW for a new cabin air filter. Ok. Before tax, if I rember correctly, his cabin air filter was like $162 or so.
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Originally posted by dfreder370
Ha Ha...this is exactly why I don't own a BMW. I gave a co-worker of mine some flying lessons on a Saturday, this was back about 2000 or so and we were in my car (type R integra). Les owns a 3 series BMW and asked me to stop at BMW for a new cabin air filter. Ok. Before tax, if I rember correctly, his cabin air filter was like $162 or so.
That's probably because it was a charcoal filter, which is a normal price for those. My E-class mercedes has two filtration systems, the normal A/C filtering like our Type-S has, and an additional charcoal filter which is about $150-$200... The charcoal filter absorbs odors and is worth every penny, I actually wish Acura would make that option available like BMW and Mercedes does...
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Technique: yea, but that is still a rip. Charcol is basically carbon, it is one of the most basic and cheapest elements on earth.

I understand carbon/charcol. It has the ability to absorb damn near everything.

But that price is like going to the grocery store and being charged $50 for a one quart container of salt. Preposterious!
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Is 83-cents too much to pay for the activated carbon version?

Originally posted by dfreder370
Technique: yea, but that is still a rip. Charcol is basically carbon, it is one of the most basic and cheapest elements on earth.

I understand carbon/charcol. It has the ability to absorb damn near everything.

But that price is like going to the grocery store and being charged $50 for a one quart container of salt. Preposterious!
Here is a link of possible interest -- and should put commercial costs in line. Most of the home filters that use HEPA technology use carbon pre-filters. I've got a few, and the carbon filters are MUCH cheaper than the HEPA filter – inside -- that removes the particulate matter that is less than about 0.5 microns. Activated carbon use and supply is ubiquitous, and is used for water and air filtration in jillions of applications.

http://www.natlallergy.com/allergy/p...reFilters.html

Charcoal pre-filters come first. Notice price for the two pack. BTW, these are not small, and are much bigger than what you will find in most cars.

Replacement Pre-Filters - 2 Pack (6 Months Supply)
Fits Models 50300& 64500
In Stock, usually ships within 24 hours Our price: $18.99
Here are the big boys that do all of the work on the pollen, mold, tiny particulate matter.

Honeywell 24000 HEPA Filter
Replacement For Models 13000, 13100, 13503 (EV-35B), 13520, 13525, 63200, 63500, & 63520
In Stock, usually ships within 24 hours Our price: $74.99

MOST IMPORTANT: See the following link (that I posted earlier in this thread):

http://www.moonlightmechanic.com/sto...C+Cabin+Filter

The non-charcoal cabin filter for the CLS (R2060-64341) is $15.11.

The version for WITH THE CHARCOAL LAYER (R2061-138860) is $15.94

Hmmm… so, it cost an additional $0.83 for the filter with the activated carbon…
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Re: Is 83-cents too much to pay for the activated carbon version?

Originally posted by EricL
Here is a link of possible interest -- and should put commercial costs in line. Most of the home filters that use HEPA technology use carbon pre-filters. I've got a few, and the carbon filters are MUCH cheaper than the HEPA filter – inside -- that removes the particulate matter that is less than about 0.5 microns. Activated carbon use and supply is ubiquitous, and is used for water and air filtration in jillions of applications.

http://www.natlallergy.com/allergy/p...reFilters.html

Charcoal pre-filters come first. Notice price for the two pack. BTW, these are not small, and are much bigger than what you will find in most cars.



Here are the big boys that do all of the work on the pollen, mold, tiny particulate matter.




MOST IMPORTANT: See the following link (that I posted earlier in this thread):

http://www.moonlightmechanic.com/sto...C+Cabin+Filter

The non-charcoal cabin filter for the CLS (R2060-64341) is $15.11.

The version for WITH THE CHARCOAL LAYER (R2061-138860) is $15.94

Hmmm… so, it cost an additional $0.83 for the filter with the activated carbon…
WOAH, I never knew we could get charcoal for our CL's... I wonder if that is really the same as having a dedicated charcoal filter like they have in the mercedes... Either way, I'll be buying those charcoal filters from now on unless they aren't as high quality as the genuine acura ones...
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Re: Re: Is 83-cents too much to pay for the activated carbon version?

Originally posted by Technique
WOAH, I never knew we could get charcoal for our CL's... I wonder if that is really the same as having a dedicated charcoal filter like they have in the mercedes... Either way, I'll be buying those charcoal filters from now on unless they aren't as high quality as the genuine acura ones...
Someone will have to try them to find out.

BTW, the activated carbon does wear out depending on ozone and other organic vapors it will be filtering. Our in-home, HEPA pre-filters make our place smell like the beach for the first week or two, and then they start to lose effectiveness over time. So, let us know how they work for you if you try them. (Review por favor?)
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EricL,

Thanks for the instructions. Followed "your" instructions and 20 min later, it's smellin' good inside. Ashamed to admit, the old ones were nasty looking. Even changed the engine air filter while I was at it. That was a quick $75 I didn't need, but since I probably saved the same in labor costs, I'll figure that I got them for free.
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Hi, folks. I am new here. whasup.

Here is the updated URL for the purilator instruction:
http://www.pureoil.com/documents/Cab...Fs/6943570.pdf
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98 2.3 CL Cabin Filters?

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Hi, folks. I am new here. whasup.

Here is the updated URL for the purilator instruction:
http://www.pureoil.com/documents/Cab...Fs/6943570.pdf
Sorry to ask a naive question, does 98 2.3 CL have cabin filters? Could not find it in the manual.
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Originally Posted by Vic_Dvorak
Sorry to ask a naive question, does 98 2.3 CL have cabin filters? Could not find it in the manual.
If the service schedule on your manual doesn't mention it, then most likely your car doesn't have it. My manual (2003 3.2CL) has it on the schedule.
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It took me a good hour to replace the cabin filters in my 2003 CL for the 1st time. I got a pair of Purolator C15390 from advance auto parts for $17.88 plus tax. Turned out the ones inside my Acura are also the same brand. DO NOT follow the instruction that comes with the filters if you have a 2003 CL. Here is my instruction for 2003 CL (may not apply to other models). It was actually very easy (5-10 min job) after you do it the 1st time.

Tools: a philips screw driver, a utility knife (or a box cutter).

Step 1: Remove glove box. Open the glove box, remove the locking tab on both sides of the box by firmly pushing them towards inside of box. Then remove the screw on the right side of the box. Then remove the screws on the bottom left and right sides of the box. Total 3 screws to be removed. The glove box is now detached.

Step 2: behind the glove box is a plastic panel. You do not have to remove the whole panel (I tried to do that, what a mistake). On the left portion (close to the center) of the panel, there is a 3inch by 4inch piece that can be removed by utility knife (on the piece, it reads "do not discard..."). Use a sharp knife to cut off one (not both) side of the piece so the peice can be opened like a door. Right behind the door is the 1in by 6in cover that covers the filter slot. Remove the slot cover by pull down the tab at the bottom of the cover. Once the cover is removed, you can see two filters in the slot. Pull both filters out, replace the filters. Be sure to match the air flow arrow on the filters with the arrow on the filter holder. The arrows on both filters should point to the left (driver side).

Step 3: reverse the steps and put filter slot cover back, then put globe box back.


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