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Old 01-31-2004 | 11:28 PM
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Busted a 3.8 superscharged Thunderbird

Raced a supercharged V6 Thunderbird last night busted his ass from the line but he came back of course but the line is all the matters in a quater

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Old 02-01-2004 | 04:38 AM
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the line is all that matters in the quarter? WTF is that? 60's are nice but it's called a 1320 for a reason...
Old 02-01-2004 | 08:56 AM
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Old 02-01-2004 | 03:51 PM
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.... yeah, the line matters in 1/8th mile...

You still lost.
Old 02-01-2004 | 05:13 PM
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Nice death.
Old 02-01-2004 | 07:00 PM
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whatever it was supercharged i knew that i wasn't gonna get him in the long run
Old 02-01-2004 | 10:41 PM
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Originally posted by whippin2.2cl
whatever it was supercharged i knew that i wasn't gonna get him in the long run
Yup, you're right about that...I had one of those walk me from 90 to 115 when I have 00 TL I/H/E/VAFC...
Old 02-02-2004 | 12:03 AM
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Re: Busted a 3.8 superscharged Thunderbird

Originally posted by whippin2.2cl
...busted his ass from the line but he came back of course but the line is all the matters in a quater
Old 02-02-2004 | 12:25 AM
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Yep...the line matters....HAHAHAHAHAHAHA. Nice attempt of an excuse for ur death...don't worry...those fuckers are fast!!
Old 02-02-2004 | 12:39 AM
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Forced Induction is no joke!

Did you lose by alot at the end? How many car lengths ya' think?
Old 02-03-2004 | 01:15 PM
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You're talking about the Thunderbird SC. My best friend has a 94. Stock for stock its a driver's race but if he has a pulley your done.
Old 02-03-2004 | 08:58 PM
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yeah ur right forced induction is no joke after i shifted to third he was out. i mean i had nothin to lose and everything to gain. i knew he was gonna get me but just wanted to see how bad but after he stopped spinnin he was out. all for fun though. I Need Turbo
Old 02-04-2004 | 11:08 PM
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Originally posted by whippin2.2cl
i knew he was gonna get me but just wanted to see how bad but after he stopped spinnin he was out. all for fun though. I Need Turbo
Yeah, I do that alot too believe it or not! Just to see how I fair against these people who spend thousands on their ride!
But it's true, FWD + Turbo = Spiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiinnin' wheels! :shakehd:
Old 02-05-2004 | 01:30 AM
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memories of the Thunderbird SC. Let's just say, they ARE NOT bang for the buck. A stock TL-S should have no problem with one that has a pulley, headers, and catback. Just make sure it's 1320, cause they should get you from the line.
Old 02-05-2004 | 11:20 PM
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stock t bird SC, are about mid 15s @ 92 for early models and about 15 flat at 95 for the later ones. (94-5). With the usual complement of mods (pully, exhaust, etc.) mods they hit mid 14s at upper 90s, enough to match a stock cl-s/tl-s. but many of them out there are tired at this point and won't exactly put up much of a fight.

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Old 02-06-2004 | 02:03 AM
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also remember........

that those cars weigh near 5000LBs, compared to your cars that wieght less tehn then half of that. And don;t be thinking these cars are tired either, just cause they are gettign old don;t mean nutta
Old 02-06-2004 | 05:22 AM
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no weight is 3800-4000, even for the heaviest.

and yes many of them are not well taken care of and are getting old.

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Old 02-06-2004 | 11:30 AM
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'89 XR-7 (the OTHER Supercoupe)

14.250 @ 97.6, but LOTS of SC's are quicker & faster than me.

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Old 02-06-2004 | 04:20 PM
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Not well taken care of my a##!!

Bring those Acuras over to the club clash in Iowa-we'll show you what a "tired, not well taken care of" car can do!

And if you're ever down in St Louis during the SC Shootout, don't even bother racing those guys-several cars are in the 13s, and will chew up your pink slip and spit it back out.
Old 02-06-2004 | 05:59 PM
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In case you guys want to race a Thunderbird, here's a list of guys to watch out for.

http://pub83.ezboard.com/fthunderbir...opicID=1.topic

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Old 02-06-2004 | 06:46 PM
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68 Cougar, we'd be a pretty good match, but I don't drive an Acura, and I'm in Cali. I run 14.1s @ 97 , and I'm also a 3.8ltr blown V6.
Old 02-06-2004 | 07:24 PM
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3.8L What?

Originally posted by GS Dave
68 Cougar, we'd be a pretty good match,and I'm in Cali. I run 14.1s @ 97 , and I'm also a 3.8ltr blown V6.
GS Dave, I like to race. Mostly with friends, but also with unknown Mustang Kids. You're just cryptic enough to make me think that you're a Buick Guy. But why would you be hanging out on an Acura board? I'm here for a reason.

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Old 02-06-2004 | 09:03 PM
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roo97ss : no, I'm right, its closer to 5000

here is the sticker on my door jam to prove it

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Old 02-06-2004 | 09:58 PM
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Re: 5000 lbs

Originally posted by 92sc
roo97ss : no, I'm right, its closer to 5000
I still think that a 5000 lb. V6 that makes 14.250 @ 97.6, is good numbers..

Hell, I'd respect a 5000 lb. Rice-Grinder that made those numbers.

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Old 02-06-2004 | 10:09 PM
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Originally posted by 92sc
roo97ss : no, I'm right, its closer to 5000

here is the sticker on my door jam to prove it

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GVW = gross vehicle weight. that's what it can carry total w/ passengers and cargo.



still a heavy pig.
Old 02-06-2004 | 10:33 PM
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Re: Heavy Pig

Originally posted by mattg
GVW = gross vehicle weight.
Yes that's true! Performance & Comfort are always a trade off. I prefer to go Quick & Fast, in COMFORT!

Pleae don't take me wrong. You guys are doing the same thing I did, you're just do'ing it with foreign cars. hp is hp. TQ is TQ. ET's are ET's, and if you you have the hp/TQ to make the numbers, then you're a worthy opponent!

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Old 02-07-2004 | 02:36 AM
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roo97ss : no, I'm right, its closer to 5000
as it's been pointed out that's maximum with passengers.

the SC is a little heavier than the V8s. We had 3 of them
93 5.0 xr7
94 4.6 bird
97 4.6 sport bird.

The 94 and 97 were right about 3700 with about 1/2 tank of gas, heavy for sure, never weighed the cougar.

I didn't get too heavy into modding either one, cold air, maf, tb, u/d pullies and exhaust on the 97 made low 15s at 92 mph. had an addco sway setup and 245/50s on the 16 sport wheels.

was a very nice car but would need either the head swap or a blower to make it go well.

The SCs are a nicer car and have more in them, with pullies, exhaust. I know of a few personally that were low 14s, and that's about 5 years ago now.

The cl does what the t bird did and is a lot quieter, smoother and better put together, but of course you do have to pay for all that.

I'm sure there are quite a few out there that are well taken care of, but like the 5.0 stangs roaming around, many of them are surviving with well over 100k on them, a little out of tune, putting out just a puff of blue smoke and don't quite run up to their potential.
Old 02-07-2004 | 06:06 PM
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yea, i was that bored

Hey,
I'm part fo several SC clubs and infact own one of my own SC's. Alot of the ppl on our clubs picked these cars to go fast in style. They are very luxurious cars and quick cars for their year. Very quick and really nice. Off the line, because of the weight they will spin the tires but they catch up quick, and on the freeway, they're gone... anyways, just my $0.02 worth. I'll leave yea w/ sum pics

Old 02-07-2004 | 09:32 PM
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GVW, Lol. some people are fucking dumb.
Old 02-07-2004 | 09:35 PM
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The SC were nice for the money, but I wouldnt call them luxurious. Maybe for the car segment that includes Grand Prix's and Taurus's, but once you move up a bit, no sir.

The SC brings back so many memories. Yanking out the 3.8 to have port/polish and stroker. My friend wasted his money on that biatch, though he had some amazing times with it. Full consmetic upgrades, body changes. (it helps that he owns/runs a body shop) That thing was a slouch though, never performed like it should have. Should have been an easy high 11 second car.
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Originally posted by TheyCallMeSteel
Should have been an easy high 11 second car.
Here's the URL for Chris Wises 11.16 sec. run. He's currently the quickest SC in the country.

http://www.sccoa.com/multimedia/chri...se11.16run.wmv

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Old 02-07-2004 | 10:28 PM
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Yeah, i'm well versed on all those guys, at least I used to be. My buddy had lots of shit done to his car, he just had some big issues. So he finally got rid of it and bought himself a Navigator, put 23's on it, systems, TV, body modifications (again, bodyshop owner) and he's rolling I guess.

Talk about a change in venue!
Old 02-08-2004 | 01:35 AM
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Nice thread you guys got going on here.

The one thing that people overlook when it comes to the Thunderbird SC's is the handling. It handles very well for it's size and weight. Nobody talks about how one corners.

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Old 02-09-2004 | 03:44 PM
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68 Cougar, yes I am a Buick guy(see my sig). I followed a thread a long ways back between Pontiac GTPs(my car's twin) and CLS'. I found a lot of really cool car guys here, and recently even went to the track with one (of course he was slower than me ).

Personally, I like SCs very much, but the car was just too heavy for me, and getting in/out of the rear seats was tough. I've only raced one guy on the street with a 10# pulley(at least thats what I thought he said). It wasn't very close, I suspect he needed some other mods to make it work right.
Old 02-09-2004 | 06:07 PM
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Re: also remember........

Originally posted by 92sc
that those cars weigh near 5000LBs, compared to your cars that wieght less tehn then half of that. And don;t be thinking these cars are tired either, just cause they are gettign old don;t mean nutta

5000/2 = 2500 lbs.

A CL or TL does NOT weigh 2500 lbs.

But yes, the TL/CL is lighter than the SC bird.
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GN vs. SC

Originally posted by GS Dave
getting in/out of the (SC) rear seats was tough. I've only raced one guy on the street with a 10# pulley
Yes the back seats are cramped & hard to get into. Fortunately I don't ride back there very often.

The pulley you're talking about is a +10% pulley. On the '89 - '93 SC's, the supercharger is Over Driven 250%!!!!! The 10% pulley overdrives the blower 275%. The '94 - '95 Supercoupes have coated rotors that allow less blow back. They also have a +5% pulley, compared to the earlier blowers. A stock late model Supercoupe blower will make +15 psi at will!!!

How does that compare to the Buick M90's?

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Old 02-11-2004 | 11:25 AM
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Re: GN vs. SC

Originally posted by 68COUGAR
Yes the back seats are cramped & hard to get into. Fortunately I don't ride back there very often.

The pulley you're talking about is a +10% pulley. On the '89 - '93 SC's, the supercharger is Over Driven 250%!!!!! The 10% pulley overdrives the blower 275%. The '94 - '95 Supercoupes have coated rotors that allow less blow back. They also have a +5% pulley, compared to the earlier blowers. A stock late model Supercoupe blower will make +15 psi at will!!!

How does that compare to the Buick M90's?

68COUGAR
The Buick M90 is the 3rd gen eaton, so it has the coated rotors. We CANNOT push that kind of boost though, we have no IC!!! Damn GM. We measure our pullies by size, not boost or %, weird huh? Stock is 3.8 inches, you can bolt on a 3.4" with only a CAI and a minor exhaust mod. I run a 3.25" pulley, but have CAI, Headers, exhaust and smaller KR fighting mods. With the headers I see only 10-11psi. Seems the M90 is the most efficient at about 10psi non-icd, so that is my goal, do more mods, then smaller pullies to keep the boost around 10psi. Stock I was running 7.5-8psi. If you want more info on the Regals, feel free to visit our forum, www.regalgs.org . Note it is a .org, not a .com. The Regal is quite a bit lighter than the SC, I weighed my car with a full tank of gas, but without the spare and it tipped the scales at 3580. So in race trim sans driver should be under 3500pounds.(oh the 3580 was with two child seats in the back lol) What sucks, is it is FWD!!!

Again, feel free to come on over to www.regalgs.org . MOST, not all of us, are car enthusiasts and welcome enthusiasts from other boards(of course we have a few resident a-holes like everyone).

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