Bogus, Got 2 Tickets Today!!!!!!!
01-05-2003, 05:20 PM
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Bogus, Got 2 Tickets Today!!!!!!!
I been lurking here since I got my 2003 CLS back in March. I am one of those 17 yearold drivers. A cop was having a bad day I guess and gave me to freaking tickes that are bogus. She pulls me over and says, " This is your parents car, ain't it. You probably haven't paid a dime." The she says i was going 62 and that is BS. The zone was 40 and I was second at the light, a van infront of me and the cop was behind me. She said I hit 62 and how is taht possible unless the van infront of me was going faster, I saw my speedometer and it read 45. The she says I was tailing another car which doesn't exist and gives me another ticket for tail-gating. The she asks me what the speed limit was and I said 45 and told her I was going 45, she walks away. The ticket says 62 in a 45 zone and the zone is 40, does that make the ticket void? I hate this, thats $250 in traffic lawyers down the drain.:angry:
01-05-2003, 05:49 PM
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Fight the tickets. It doesn't cost you anything to show up at court exept some time off from work or school. If you really weren't doing anything wrong it is worth the chance that judge will listen to you.
01-05-2003, 06:28 PM
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Fight the tickets. It doesn't cost you anything to show up at court exept some time off from work or school. If you really weren't doing anything wrong it is worth the chance that judge will listen to you.
Fight the tickets. It doesn't cost you anything to show up at court exept some time off from work or school. If you really weren't doing anything wrong it is worth the chance that judge will listen to you.
Good luck,
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01-05-2003, 06:43 PM
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Man, that does suck.
But if you do go to court to fight it, it's your word versus the cops word. And guess who the court is gonna believe?
Unless you can PROVE you weren't going 62 and/or weren't tailgating... And your word isn't gonna make the judge side with you.
I wouldn't fight it. Pay up, and move on.
But if you do go to court to fight it, it's your word versus the cops word. And guess who the court is gonna believe?
Unless you can PROVE you weren't going 62 and/or weren't tailgating... And your word isn't gonna make the judge side with you.
I wouldn't fight it. Pay up, and move on.
01-05-2003, 06:43 PM
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Go the court, explain it nicely to the judge and get it off. Tell him about the remarks she made and how she behaved.
Further more, find out that lady's mentrual cycles and whether if she was on her period that day... if she was i'm sure the judge will see that u unfairly got ticketed due to her unhindged, unstable, unsteady and sometimes unpredictable mood swings
Further more, find out that lady's mentrual cycles and whether if she was on her period that day... if she was i'm sure the judge will see that u unfairly got ticketed due to her unhindged, unstable, unsteady and sometimes unpredictable mood swings
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01-05-2003, 06:46 PM
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Originally posted by shaHn78
Further more, find out that lady's mentrual cycles and whether if she was on her period that day... if she was i'm sure the judge will see that u unfairly got ticketed due to her unhindged, unstable, unsteady and sometimes unpredictable mood swings
Further more, find out that lady's mentrual cycles and whether if she was on her period that day... if she was i'm sure the judge will see that u unfairly got ticketed due to her unhindged, unstable, unsteady and sometimes unpredictable mood swings
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01-05-2003, 06:51 PM
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I have a friend that is a cop...he said to always fight the ticket. There is a chance that the judge could be in a good mood, the cop might not show....Its worth a shot!!!!!
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I remember in Minnesota they had ticket day. So everyday wasn't a traffic ticket day so cops didn't spend all their time in court. Just the 1st and 3rd Tuesdays...or something like that.
The first time you show up at court, the cop will probably not be there...perhaps the second time.
Anyway, the wrong speed limit cited 40/45 might help you. It shows there is a possibility of error and maybe the cop is a little bit confused. Or it might mean you were 22 over instead of 17 over.
In any case, you can forget the officer's comments. They are not material to whether you were speeding or not. So what if a cop doesn't believe it's your car, is that why you think you were ticketed? And if you bring them up and I was the judge and you told me that and you were 17, I would make you pay the ticket. Young folks get no respect [in the courtroom]. Let your lawyer bring up the comments.
The first time you show up at court, the cop will probably not be there...perhaps the second time.
Anyway, the wrong speed limit cited 40/45 might help you. It shows there is a possibility of error and maybe the cop is a little bit confused. Or it might mean you were 22 over instead of 17 over.
In any case, you can forget the officer's comments. They are not material to whether you were speeding or not. So what if a cop doesn't believe it's your car, is that why you think you were ticketed? And if you bring them up and I was the judge and you told me that and you were 17, I would make you pay the ticket. Young folks get no respect [in the courtroom]. Let your lawyer bring up the comments.
01-05-2003, 07:36 PM
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my friend always told me that whenever he got a ticket he got the officer's name and badge #. he'd call the PD find out what days he/she is off and switch the court date to the officers day off. i dont know if that works. i sure as hell dont know how u would be able to get someones schedule over the phone. then again my friend was one to BS alot so 
01-05-2003, 07:57 PM
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darrinb, she didn't say anything about the tints. My radar was on and it never went off so I don't even think her damn speed gun was on. My dad talked to a friend of his and we are getting a lawyer that will charge $110 total for both tickets. I just found out also that a friend of mines dad is a judge, I see him on Tuesday and am going to find out if his dad does traffic charges. But it really pisses me off when she thinks just because a kid can drive that car and she can't, big freakin deal. Also, she was getting out of her neighborhood and stopped at her stop sign halfway into the road and expected everyone to stop for her, I didn't even slow down and I think that might have pissed her off.
01-05-2003, 08:24 PM
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Originally posted by shaHn78
Go the court, explain it nicely to the judge and get it off. Tell him about the remarks she made and how she behaved.
Further more, find out that lady's mentrual cycles and whether if she was on her period that day... if she was i'm sure the judge will see that u unfairly got ticketed due to her unhindged, unstable, unsteady and sometimes unpredictable mood swings
Go the court, explain it nicely to the judge and get it off. Tell him about the remarks she made and how she behaved.
Further more, find out that lady's mentrual cycles and whether if she was on her period that day... if she was i'm sure the judge will see that u unfairly got ticketed due to her unhindged, unstable, unsteady and sometimes unpredictable mood swings
Might not work with a woman judge though.
01-05-2003, 08:52 PM
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the fact that she did not know the speed limit in that area can definately be used in court. That shows she is herself is unaware of the speedlimit their. Take picture of the speed sign and take it to court. You can basically say that she is talking out of her ass. It works.
01-05-2003, 08:57 PM
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My father has recieved many speeding tickets and always let the lawyers handle it, he only once had to go to court with his lawyers, the rest the lawyers took care of. I will let the lawyer know this, but I am hoping I myself don't have to go to court.
01-05-2003, 10:03 PM
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Originally posted by 6DUDE9
My father has recieved many speeding tickets and always let the lawyers handle it, he only once had to go to court with his lawyers, the rest the lawyers took care of. I will let the lawyer know this, but I am hoping I myself don't have to go to court.
My father has recieved many speeding tickets and always let the lawyers handle it, he only once had to go to court with his lawyers, the rest the lawyers took care of. I will let the lawyer know this, but I am hoping I myself don't have to go to court.
Don't try to argue the 40/45 thing. A friend of mine got pulled over for not stopping at a stop sign, but the cop wrote it down as running a red light. At court, my friend brought pictures of the intersection showing the lack of a stoplight to run, but the judge found him guilty saying that "you've probably run a stoplight at some time in your life." If my friend had just paid a lawyer to show up for him, it would have been cheaper and less of a waste of time.
01-06-2003, 06:30 AM
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I was 18 and driving an AMX Javelin. It had all of 7,000 miles on it. I was at an intersection and saw the cop. I drove off after coming to a dead stop and counting to 3. About 1/2 down the road and driving 30 MPH I got pulled over. The cop was shining a light inside and said is this a hurst shifter ? You left rubber back there you know. Then he said is this your car (I produced a license and registration that had my name on it.) I also said yes and he said I will ask you one more time, is this your car.
Some cops have a hair across their asses. They also do not like seeing young people in nice cars. They first think it is stolen.
I was 18 and driving an AMX Javelin. It had all of 7,000 miles on it. I was at an intersection and saw the cop. I drove off after coming to a dead stop and counting to 3. About 1/2 down the road and driving 30 MPH I got pulled over. The cop was shining a light inside and said is this a hurst shifter ? You left rubber back there you know. Then he said is this your car (I produced a license and registration that had my name on it.) I also said yes and he said I will ask you one more time, is this your car.
Some cops have a hair across their asses. They also do not like seeing young people in nice cars. They first think it is stolen.
01-06-2003, 06:59 AM
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Yeah...i hate cops!!
I just got pulled over last night. The cop said I was going 64 in a 50 when im pretty sure I was following traffic and the speed limit was 55. He also busted me for tint on my windows. I don't wanna have to take the tint off...it looks soo nice with it on...hehe. Btw, I all ready have 4 points, I really cant afford anymore, my insurance is sky high as it is...
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I just got pulled over last night. The cop said I was going 64 in a 50 when im pretty sure I was following traffic and the speed limit was 55. He also busted me for tint on my windows. I don't wanna have to take the tint off...it looks soo nice with it on...hehe. Btw, I all ready have 4 points, I really cant afford anymore, my insurance is sky high as it is...
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01-06-2003, 10:41 AM
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When i got my ticket, I went to this site, and it answered a lot of ?'s for me. Hope it helps out,
http://www.helpigotaticket.com
http://www.helpigotaticket.com
01-07-2003, 05:40 PM
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Thanks ktgumbo, sorry I couldn't respond faster but my DSL is going out of business so its acting weird. I'm thinking of using these guys. www.ticketclinic.com
01-07-2003, 10:32 PM
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Dunno how you are gonna get off of it, but when I got clipped, 6 months ago (first ticket in 5 years damnit!!) I was 58 in a 40...cop didn't seem that pissed about the young guy in a nice car (but then I am 21) he even dropped me to 5 over..only cost me 60 bucks, and I am guessing 1 point, how can I find out how many I have?
As far as her not hitting u with her gun, they can claim a matched speed, that is how most tickets are done in heavy traffic like a freeway, the cop will tail, and try to maintain an even distance for 0.5 mi. or more, all while paying close attention to their speedo...it has held up in court too. That, or your detector might have just missed a beat.
I would be funny as hell if you tried that 'on the rag' defense though
As far as her not hitting u with her gun, they can claim a matched speed, that is how most tickets are done in heavy traffic like a freeway, the cop will tail, and try to maintain an even distance for 0.5 mi. or more, all while paying close attention to their speedo...it has held up in court too. That, or your detector might have just missed a beat.
I would be funny as hell if you tried that 'on the rag' defense though
01-07-2003, 11:44 PM
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Originally posted by Sypher
Yea, my lawyer took care of mine without me as well. I was going to pay the car tax somehow, I figured it was better without the points.
Don't try to argue the 40/45 thing. A friend of mine got pulled over for not stopping at a stop sign, but the cop wrote it down as running a red light. At court, my friend brought pictures of the intersection showing the lack of a stoplight to run, but the judge found him guilty saying that "you've probably run a stoplight at some time in your life." If my friend had just paid a lawyer to show up for him, it would have been cheaper and less of a waste of time.
Yea, my lawyer took care of mine without me as well. I was going to pay the car tax somehow, I figured it was better without the points.
Don't try to argue the 40/45 thing. A friend of mine got pulled over for not stopping at a stop sign, but the cop wrote it down as running a red light. At court, my friend brought pictures of the intersection showing the lack of a stoplight to run, but the judge found him guilty saying that "you've probably run a stoplight at some time in your life." If my friend had just paid a lawyer to show up for him, it would have been cheaper and less of a waste of time.
You never know.............When i went to court to fight a BS ticket for not stoppin completly at a red light when making a right turn, it got thrown out cuz the cop wrote the code down for not stopping completely at a stop sign. The judge said it was not fair to find me guilty for somethin that i didnt do.
Or maybe he was having a good day.
01-08-2003, 03:53 PM
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Originally posted by liquid_x
my friend always told me that whenever he got a ticket he got the officer's name and badge #. he'd call the PD find out what days he/she is off and switch the court date to the officers day off. i dont know if that works. i sure as hell dont know how u would be able to get someones schedule over the phone. then again my friend was one to BS alot so
my friend always told me that whenever he got a ticket he got the officer's name and badge #. he'd call the PD find out what days he/she is off and switch the court date to the officers day off. i dont know if that works. i sure as hell dont know how u would be able to get someones schedule over the phone. then again my friend was one to BS alot so
Anyway, if the cop does show up. Ask them whens the last time they had their speedometer calibrated. How long did they tail to verifiy the speed. If they were using radar, when was the last time they were certified? When was the last time the radar was Calibrated? If that officer can not show any of that proof, the commissioner is forced to let it slide because the cop cannot back up his statement with the proper credentials
01-08-2003, 04:35 PM
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Thanks, because after the light we were both at, she pulled me over at the next one about idk 0.1-.03 miles. But I hate it when these bastards do shit like this, I wouldn't have cared much if I really was speeding and tailgating, but I wasn't. ( The one time I obey the law, I get a 2345678 ticket!!!! )
01-08-2003, 05:49 PM
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Mom and Dad?
We have ALL overlooked 1 thing...he is only 17 years old. Mom and Dad will be making the decision on what to do here. As a minor he has ZERO rights, he alone cannot fight a ticket. One of his parents will have to be in court with him if he choses to fight it.
So, in light of that maybe just bite the bullett and pay the fine???Or there is always traffic school.:thinking:
So, in light of that maybe just bite the bullett and pay the fine???Or there is always traffic school.:thinking:
01-08-2003, 06:25 PM
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As far as I know about this lawyer I'm using, I won't have to show up in court because he will take care of it. My friend also got the same two tickets and he used this lawyer, he's a good guy.
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Re: Mom and Dad?
Originally posted by 1killercls
We have ALL overlooked 1 thing...he is only 17 years old. Mom and Dad will be making the decision on what to do here. As a minor he has ZERO rights, he alone cannot fight a ticket. One of his parents will have to be in court with him if he choses to fight it.
So, in light of that maybe just bite the bullett and pay the fine???Or there is always traffic school.:thinking:
We have ALL overlooked 1 thing...he is only 17 years old. Mom and Dad will be making the decision on what to do here. As a minor he has ZERO rights, he alone cannot fight a ticket. One of his parents will have to be in court with him if he choses to fight it.
So, in light of that maybe just bite the bullett and pay the fine???Or there is always traffic school.:thinking:
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Re: Re: Mom and Dad?
Originally posted by trodery
At 17 you aren't a Juivenille when it comes to traffic tickets... At least not in Texas.
At 17 you aren't a Juivenille when it comes to traffic tickets... At least not in Texas.
It's juvenile and a 17-yr old cannot even sign his/her name to any legal documents. You must have an adult at TRIAL in the form of a lawyer, parent, or legal guardian.
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I'm 18 now and had 2 tickets when I was 17. I received one ticket for running a stop sign, payed a lawyer and had them take care of it for me. Never showed up in court. I received a speeding ticket in the city of Houston and it said if you were 16 or younger you had to show up in court with your parents. I just mailed in money to them and no worries.
01-09-2003, 05:18 PM
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I just talked with my lawyer, he said many teens are geting the same 2 tickets I got and he is only going to charge me $75 total for both tickets.
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Re: Re: Re: Mom and Dad?
Originally posted by kensteele
It's juvenile and a 17-yr old cannot even sign his/her name to any legal documents. You must have an adult at TRIAL in the form of a lawyer, parent, or legal guardian.
It's juvenile and a 17-yr old cannot even sign his/her name to any legal documents. You must have an adult at TRIAL in the form of a lawyer, parent, or legal guardian.
Of course you can PAY the ticket and you can ANSWER to the ticket on your own or have a lawyer do it for you. But I said if you decide to go to TRIAL which means you intend to fight the charges, question and cross-examine the police officer, open and close your case, etc., it is my contention that minor would not be allowed to go there on his own as I said without an adult. Believe it. A traffic ticket is no longer a minor traffic ticket when you got to TRIAL. As an adult, I've been there on my own to TRIAL without a lawyer. It's no fun.
Dude, just pay off the lawyer and suck it up. We all did when we were kids. Yes, adults do sometimes make it "hard" on you.....
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dang i got lucky
about a month ago I was in a hurry coming in home from my g/f's house(i was running late) so i didn't let my front window defrost i only scraped a tiny patch. well i was swerveing and crap(it was like 1:30 or 2 in the morning) they thought i was DUIing . I was pulled over by 2 cop cars at the same time i thought dang they must think i have some weed or something . he comes up.(and my g/f's brother is friends with the town cop) he's like "one up dog"(honest to god he said that ) i said "what's up man" he said "you know you were swerveing back there" i said "dang my bad man i was over at my girl's house and i didn't let my windows defrost" he said "alright man but i'm gonna let you off with a verbal warning this time." i said "alright you da man"
about a month ago I was in a hurry coming in home from my g/f's house(i was running late) so i didn't let my front window defrost i only scraped a tiny patch. well i was swerveing and crap(it was like 1:30 or 2 in the morning) they thought i was DUIing
. I was pulled over by 2 cop cars at the same time i thought dang they must think i have some weed or something . he comes up.(and my g/f's brother is friends with the town cop) he's like "one up dog"(honest to god he said that ) i said "what's up man" he said "you know you were swerveing back there" i said "dang my bad man i was over at my girl's house and i didn't let my windows defrost" he said "alright man but i'm gonna let you off with a verbal warning this time." i said "alright you da man"
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