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Old 07-09-2004, 08:21 AM
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Hey guys check it out, my uncle is a BG rep and they make performance additives and treatments. He always woult talk to me about how good they were but until the service he did yesterday i wasnt really sure. Yesterday he did a service that he used a machine attached to compress air and oen of the performance liquids to clean up carbon build up starting at the throttle boddy then back. My car spit out HUGE clouds of super dark black carbon smoke. My car has 108k miles and has never had the service done. Mine had so much carbon that i am gonna need to do it again in a month. From that service my rpm's have dropped about 500 average when i am driving and looks like it will remove alot wear from the engine. Anyways the reason i tell this story is because if you are in the Miami area i can do the service very discounted. The cheapest dealership that does the service does it for about $175 (Miami Saturn). Other dealerships like Maroone Nissan do it for like $250+. I am willing to do it for about $100. PM me if you have any questions or are interested.
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Old 07-09-2004, 09:51 AM
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BG website, they are the brand additive and service which is sold directly to the dealerships, they do not sell to individuals

http://www.bgprod.com/
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um, your engine RPM's aren't dropping. Engine RPM's and the speed you are going are relevant and will remain the same.
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No, usually at around 40 mph i was close to 2000 rpm now crusing at 40 i am at about 1600 rpm
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Originally Posted by MYcarmensita
No, usually at around 40 mph i was close to 2000 rpm now crusing at 40 i am at about 1600 rpm


not possible, the only way that would change is if you changed the gearing
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That is due to the fact that tons and tons of carbon buildup was taken out of the engines system, my car even had a hard time idleing at first because the car had been so used to the buildup that running so clean made the car act funny. My uncle showed me before and after pics of the service and i was like damn. By the way if anyone decides to do the service and is not happy, they will get a full refund
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Originally Posted by CLpower
not possible, the only way that would change is if you changed the gearing
ok i am telling you what i am seeing not anything else, not tapping into anything with the engine or cleaner my cruise control at 40 mph is now at about 1500-1600 rpm as opposed to 1900-2000 rpm.
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That is due to the fact that tons and tons of carbon buildup was taken out of the engines system, my car even had a hard time idleing at first because the car had been so used to the buildup that running so clean made the car act funny. My uncle showed me before and after pics of the service and i was like damn. By the way if anyone decides to do the service and is not happy, they will get a full refund


um, no
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ok i am telling you what i am seeing not anything else, not tapping into anything with the engine or cleaner my cruise control at 40 mph is now at about 1500-1600 rpm as opposed to 1900-2000 rpm.


edit- made a wrong statement
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did you tell your uncle that your RPMS dropped? What did he say if you did.
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Originally Posted by CLpower
not possible, the only way that would change is if you changed the gearing
And you are wrong about this RPM is how much revolutions per minute your car is making, basically the ammount of force your car is sending to the axle to make the wheels spin. RPM and MPH are not set at all. If you have a cleaner pathway for the combustion process to occur it will alow smoother, more efficient transfer from power from the cylinder heads to the axle.
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Originally Posted by CLpower
did you tell your uncle that your RPMS dropped? What did he say if you did.
He said they were supposed to drop a little since the engine had SO MUCH carbon build up that now the throttle and the all around system would have clearer way to combust. He thought for a second that we were even going to have to adjust the iddle because it was dropping so low. Seems that the person before me adjusted the iddle due to the carbon build-up.
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Originally Posted by MYcarmensita
And you are wrong about this RPM is how much revolutions per minute your car is making, basically the ammount of force your car is sending to the axle to make the wheels spin. RPM and MPH are not set at all. If you have a cleaner pathway for the combustion process to occur it will alow smoother, more efficient transfer from power from the cylinder heads to the axle.


if you prove me wrong then and


but I've never heard this before and have been around cars my whole life. But the beauty of things is you learn something new all the time
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Me either thats why i was shocked like i said originally i was just as skeptikal as everyone else when he was doign the serivce, but after two or three hard runs the difference was huge. If you are ever any chance by South Florida come by and ill show you, so you can be the judge
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But the beauty of things is you learn something new all the time
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Well this is my thinking, you say that your RPMS dropped at 40 mph by 400 RPMS, so now does that mean that when you would of reached redline at say 60 MPH you now have 400 RPMS left and can go to 64MPH (all theoretical #'s)


That's why i'm saying i'm not buying it. But as I said, the beauty of this place is i've learned a lot of things I didn't know
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Not sure, but i am driving up to to Sarasota tommorrow so i can let you know how it performs long term high speeds, and also how much gas it saves me on a full tank.

What i was thinking was what you were thinking but maybe i said so much carbon that is was having the opposite affect, maybe when i wa ssupposed ot be at 60 mph i was really only at 56.
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no one else has any insight?
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I believe that what he is saying is possible. You wouldn't have to change the gearing to accomplish that. If the engine puts out a certain amount of hp/tq stock, then you put a bunch of shit in the engine, it will produce less HP at equivalent rpm's. If the engine is making more hp at a specified rpm then the tourque converter would have more to play with and produce more whp at the same rpm as before the cleaning, essentially pushing/pulling the car along more effeciently than before.

For example: near my house is a pretty steep big hill. In the reallly fucking hot days if I set the cruise control to 55, then go up the hill it will have to downshift to be able to go up the hill because it's not accomplishing the needed hp inthe heat, but when I do the same at night when it's 20 degrees cooler, it doesn't have to downshift at all, and can maintain that speed in fourth gear.

Perhaps his car isn't producing more hp at equivalent rpm's. Maybe it just doesnt' have to downshift anymore.

This is assuming that it's an automatic, It didn't say in his sig.
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I'm thinking about getting a catch-can for that nasty sludge that comes out of the valvecover into the intake. You have to have that bypass tube to be smog legal but man it puts alot of shit into your intake. Some pig told me that if you have a filter attatched instead of the tube, it lets out flammable vapors that can cause a fire. I've never seen this happen but a catch-can should prevent all of this. I dont know if catch-cans are street legal though. probably not for some bullshit reason.
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figure some of the smart 2nd gen guys can chime in
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whoa shit you moved it into the second gen, and yes i do have an automatic
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I read it in the first gen, and found a lot of dealerships have it, but none of them have ever suggested it to me. The dealer I go to has it, I might consider trying it with my 52k miles on my 03.
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Ya dude 50k is when most people do it, do it before 75k because then it becomes more difficult and may require two sessions, engine runs liek its brand new :smiley:
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Sounds good to me, I have another couple months before I hit 75k.
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Ya anytime after about 35k miles you will feel a significant difference, not to mention if yu watch the service you will see the carbon exiting the exhausts. Good luck!
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