Aquamist Water Injection Kit... arrived
06-09-2005, 05:37 PM
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Aquamist Water Injection Kit... arrived
I just got my Aquamist System 1s H2O injection kit. It is quite a complete kit with a 4psi to 30psi adjustable boost-activated switch, high-pressure pump, fittings, wiring-harness, jets etc.
You can use the windshield resevoir tank, but I will most likely custom-fabricate a water-tank, mounting bracket etc.
This should completely eliminate any chance of detonation at 6psi and possibly allow me to boost 8psi.
I'll keep you guys updated on the install, tuning etc.
You can use the windshield resevoir tank, but I will most likely custom-fabricate a water-tank, mounting bracket etc.
This should completely eliminate any chance of detonation at 6psi and possibly allow me to boost 8psi.
I'll keep you guys updated on the install, tuning etc.
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06-09-2005, 06:36 PM
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It sprays highly atomized droplets into the intake-charge (post IC). It drastically reduces the intake-charge temp, eliminates hot-spots in the combustion-chamber and reduces EGT's by 100+ degrees. For a high-compression motor running FI (and pushing the limits with poor CA 91-octane) its a good thing!
The FIA rally cars run this as well! I will probably run 50% water, 50% methanol.
The FIA rally cars run this as well! I will probably run 50% water, 50% methanol.
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Originally Posted by allmotor_2000
It sprays highly atomized droplets into the intake-charge (post IC). It drastically reduces the intake-charge temp, eliminates hot-spots in the combustion-chamber and reduces EGT's by 100+ degrees. For a high-compression motor running FI (and pushing the limits with poor CA 91-octane) its a good thing!
The FIA rally cars run this as well! I will probably run 50% water, 50% methanol.
The FIA rally cars run this as well! I will probably run 50% water, 50% methanol.
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06-09-2005, 06:51 PM
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awesome 
06-09-2005, 07:02 PM
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You could use the factory windshield-washer resevoir, but I would like to make my own tank... so there is fabrication for that (has to be a funny shape to fit inside the bumper) and the mounting of the pump.
06-09-2005, 08:54 PM
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Ram, Summit Racing has a WIDE selection of reservoirs in numerous shapes and sizes. Anywhere from 1 quart, 2 quarts, 1/2 gallon, etc.
Check 'em out. You could easily mount one upfront.
Check 'em out. You could easily mount one upfront.
06-09-2005, 08:58 PM
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FYI: Thanks so much for continuing to push the envelope. The 2nd Gen CL forum is so sterile now. Threads like this keep me actually interested in checking the 2nd Gen CL forum.
I've exhausted my patience for threads about which shocks or headers to buy
I've exhausted my patience for threads about which shocks or headers to buy
06-09-2005, 09:01 PM
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Hmm.. there is a 7qt one from SNOW but I don't really want to put it in the trunk! Anybody know what the volume of the windshield-washer resevoir is?
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp
YES, I KNOW... if I empty it and then fill it up I can find out!!
http://store.summitracing.com/defaul...=egnsearch.asp
YES, I KNOW... if I empty it and then fill it up I can find out!!
06-09-2005, 09:06 PM
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i'll need one of these in the future 
06-09-2005, 09:07 PM
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Hmm... SNOW performance has a bunch of kits available - I am glad I found this Aquamist kit on Ebay for $429 shipped!
It will probably cost me like $50 in materials to make one. This needs to fit inside the front bumper (passenger-side) but if its a generic reservoir, I don't want to have to remove the bumper to fill it up! Maybe the trunk is okay.. I'll have to see what Aquamist recommends for the extra distance.
It will probably cost me like $50 in materials to make one. This needs to fit inside the front bumper (passenger-side) but if its a generic reservoir, I don't want to have to remove the bumper to fill it up! Maybe the trunk is okay.. I'll have to see what Aquamist recommends for the extra distance.
06-09-2005, 09:16 PM
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How does this system work Ram?
06-09-2005, 09:19 PM
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So it sprays after the intercooler. I'm assuming the mist is fine enough so that the water basically "atomizes" and is no longer a liquid once it enters the manifold? Something about spraying water into my engine seems scary.
06-09-2005, 10:12 PM
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Sounds like an awesome mod. All_motor, you said this was solely for security and protection? Or do you think this mod will end up improving your times even in the slightest?
Don't EVO8's have something like this stock?
Don't EVO8's have something like this stock?
06-09-2005, 10:39 PM
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If the car is on the verge of detonation (which I think it is...) it should help some. If it allows me to increase boost 1-2psi, then it will help significantly - maybe 50-60whp!
The EVO's have a spray-system that sprays water on the outside of the IC to increase its efficiency - different principle, similar intent.
The EVO's have a spray-system that sprays water on the outside of the IC to increase its efficiency - different principle, similar intent.
06-09-2005, 11:30 PM
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Actually ever since I raised my car back to stock and considering I don't really drive the car so hard as to spin tires all the time - meaning I generally floor it only in 3rd and 4th... they are lasting surprisingly long! My first set, however, about a year ago when I first put this kit on... lasted about 3 months - 6K miles!
06-10-2005, 07:17 AM
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this product has been applied amongst other boosted cars very succesfully. when i was at the dyno, a srt4 owner explained the system to me and raved about how he was able to raise boost an additional 2 psi or so without any detrimental effects! i think the best thing about this is the safety it brings forth to our beloved engines. i hope to have it on my car sometime in the summer, as i face detonation unless timing is pulled.
after it put onto my car, we can see exactly how other SC owners could benefit from this. a good mod for the dollar considering an IC costs 4 times as much!
good job allmotor for researching this and putting it to use. the fact that you took initiative in this only a few weeks after we first discussed it gives me the feeling that you really believe in this thing!
after it put onto my car, we can see exactly how other SC owners could benefit from this. a good mod for the dollar considering an IC costs 4 times as much!
good job allmotor for researching this and putting it to use. the fact that you took initiative in this only a few weeks after we first discussed it gives me the feeling that you really believe in this thing!
06-10-2005, 08:53 AM
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We'd have to hack the elbow that Comptech provides and weld a bung or however this system installs into the plumbing.
Either that or have a new one made which probably wouldn't be that expensive.
Either that or have a new one made which probably wouldn't be that expensive.
06-10-2005, 11:39 AM
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You can use it pre-intercooler - in a S/C setup with Scalbert's IC that would be the way. The reason you put it post-IC is so that you don't reduce the efficiency of the IC. IC works well when there is a large temperature drop across it. Spraying water pre-IC would cool the intake-charge down before the IC does its job.
Now, having said that - since the S/C IC system sits on top of the motor you don't really want to spray at the runners cuz the distribution would not be even.. AND the intake charge has had less chance to absorb the effects of water around it.
Water injection does several things:
i. It decrease the charge temp... this allows a more dense mixture to flow into the motor. If water is injected just before the runner... its effect is lessened
ii. You want a good mixture... spraying before the runners is not going to accomplish this unless you have 6 seperate injectors
On the S/C, I'd spray at the the elbow... but since this is post-TB you have to have a seperate solenoid cuz a malfunction will ruin the motor!
Now, having said that - since the S/C IC system sits on top of the motor you don't really want to spray at the runners cuz the distribution would not be even.. AND the intake charge has had less chance to absorb the effects of water around it.
Water injection does several things:
i. It decrease the charge temp... this allows a more dense mixture to flow into the motor. If water is injected just before the runner... its effect is lessened
ii. You want a good mixture... spraying before the runners is not going to accomplish this unless you have 6 seperate injectors
On the S/C, I'd spray at the the elbow... but since this is post-TB you have to have a seperate solenoid cuz a malfunction will ruin the motor!
06-10-2005, 11:40 AM
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My only hiccup with Scalbert's IC is that it sits on top of the motor and gets saturated with all that heat (even though you are pumping water through it!) I believe the Thermoblok spacers help solve this issue!
06-10-2005, 04:45 PM
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i think the thickness of the thermoblock spacers would cause a problem. hood clearence is non-existanst as it is. in my car the fire proof material lined on the ceiling of the hood is actually touching the IC oh so slightly.
maybe scalbert made dimension changes to the newer batch?
maybe scalbert made dimension changes to the newer batch?
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Originally Posted by Smitty
^ I thought RAM said Post IC.... that would mean something like the thermo-block spacers area..
I meant if this was used without Scalbert's IC kit.