AEM has new intake filter that they claim adds another 1-3 hp....
05-21-2002, 10:23 AM
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AEM has new intake filter that they claim adds another 1-3 hp....
AEM Introduces Redesigned Filter
AEM has developed its own unique filter design for its Cold Air and Short Ram induction systems.
The new AEM filter features a redesigned air horn for improved airflow that delivers additional gains of 1-3 horsepower on the company’s intake systems. Once again, AEM has found a way to make the best intake systems on the market even better!
They also have polished now.
This on there websight here http://www.aempower.com/new_product.htm
They also still dont have one for the 6spd
and the guy I talked to thiks that cutting it to make it fit might effect the hp gains. What do yall think?
AEM has developed its own unique filter design for its Cold Air and Short Ram induction systems.
The new AEM filter features a redesigned air horn for improved airflow that delivers additional gains of 1-3 horsepower on the company’s intake systems. Once again, AEM has found a way to make the best intake systems on the market even better!
They also have polished now.
This on there websight here http://www.aempower.com/new_product.htm
They also still dont have one for the 6spd
and the guy I talked to thiks that cutting it to make it fit might effect the hp gains. What do yall think?
05-21-2002, 10:38 AM
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Looks exactly the same as the one I have 
When did they start producing them?? I don't want to order a new one if it's exactly the same as the one I have...
I've only had my CAI for about 6 weeks...
Any thoughts??
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When did they start producing them?? I don't want to order a new one if it's exactly the same as the one I have...
I've only had my CAI for about 6 weeks...
Any thoughts??
DOM
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yea, basically they found a better deal w/ a different filter manufacturer 
cutting it to fit your 6 speed would work, but it would be optimal for your setup. It'd lose maybe 1-3 hp
cutting it to fit your 6 speed would work, but it would be optimal for your setup. It'd lose maybe 1-3 hp
05-21-2002, 10:41 AM
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Originally posted by Dom418
Looks exactly the same as the one I have
When did they start producing them?? I don't want to order a new one if it's exactly the same as the one I have...
I've only had my CAI for about 6 weeks...
Any thoughts??
DOM
Looks exactly the same as the one I have
When did they start producing them?? I don't want to order a new one if it's exactly the same as the one I have...
I've only had my CAI for about 6 weeks...
Any thoughts??
DOM
you have a new one
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Has anyone scientifically compared which CAI is best(in terms of HP and MPG) and what the gains(if any) really are? I am debating whether to get one for my 2003 CLS auto but can't really seem to decide if it's worth it.
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Re: AEM has new intake filter that they claim adds another 1-3 hp....
Originally posted by NOLACLS
.......and the guy I talked to thiks that cutting it to make it fit might effect the hp gains. What do yall think?
.......and the guy I talked to thiks that cutting it to make it fit might effect the hp gains. What do yall think?
The “cut” is on a straight section and shouldn’t effect the airflow.
When you start messing with bends and pipe diameters THAT is where problems are.
Shawn S
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05-21-2002, 10:58 AM
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Originally posted by JimBob
Has anyone scientifically compared which CAI is best(in terms of HP and MPG) and what the gains(if any) really are? I am debating whether to get one for my 2003 CLS auto but can't really seem to decide if it's worth it.
Has anyone scientifically compared which CAI is best(in terms of HP and MPG) and what the gains(if any) really are? I am debating whether to get one for my 2003 CLS auto but can't really seem to decide if it's worth it.
AEM puts in the most research and development of all the companies. I'd say they are by far the best, but w/ nothing to prove that i can't tell you for sure. But what i can tell you is their fit and finish is far superior to some of the other companies.
05-21-2002, 11:03 AM
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Originally posted by Dom418
Are you SURE??
How do you know?
Thanks,
DOM
Are you SURE??
How do you know?
Thanks,
DOM
pretty sure, for one the old one didn't look identical. FOr another they have been using the new filter for about a little while now.
05-21-2002, 11:07 AM
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They started making there own filters instead of contracting it out...thats what the guy told me. He said it has something in the filter that helps smooth out the air flow like some.
The guy I talked to was not in the R&D part of AEM He just thought that it would effect the performence if it was cut since the tube that it would go on to (stock rubber part) is not snooth on the inside and may effect the air flow. When I call back I will try to talk to someone in the tec. dept. and see what they say.
The guy I talked to was not in the R&D part of AEM He just thought that it would effect the performence if it was cut since the tube that it would go on to (stock rubber part) is not snooth on the inside and may effect the air flow. When I call back I will try to talk to someone in the tec. dept. and see what they say.
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Not sure, but it seems like AEM might of better designed the cone for how the air moves through, and in into there designed pipe.
The only real performance I have seen in filters is this APEX design "Power Stack" I'm running this on the AEM long pipe and I'm convinced that its giving some extra power. This filter must organize the air alot better (IMO) than the K&N with less turbulance.
The only real performance I have seen in filters is this APEX design "Power Stack" I'm running this on the AEM long pipe and I'm convinced that its giving some extra power. This filter must organize the air alot better (IMO) than the K&N with less turbulance.
05-21-2002, 11:10 AM
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but really though....is 1-3hp gain really going to make a difference on a 190+whp car?
I know just w/ the temperature changing slightly it effects the whp quite a bit.
If they have improved their air horn it's in the inside near the base of the cone. That's old news...RS Akimoto has been doing that for years.
I know just w/ the temperature changing slightly it effects the whp quite a bit.
If they have improved their air horn it's in the inside near the base of the cone. That's old news...RS Akimoto has been doing that for years.
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Originally posted by chikai
but really though....is 1-3hp gain really going to make a difference on a 190+whp car?
but really though....is 1-3hp gain really going to make a difference on a 190+whp car?
every little bit helps right??
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05-21-2002, 11:14 AM
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Originally posted by NOLACLS
They started making there own filters instead of contracting it out...thats what the guy told me. He said it has something in the filter that helps smooth out the air flow like some.
They started making there own filters instead of contracting it out...thats what the guy told me. He said it has something in the filter that helps smooth out the air flow like some.
yea, K&N was rapping them on prices and they found a better design.
You can cut it and most likely be fine, it won't make a big enough difference for you to notice if it makes any difference at all. Alot of the type S guys cut the v6 accord ones when they first came out and didn't have any problems.
05-21-2002, 11:17 AM
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Yeah I will prolly cut it since I found out that the CT Ice Box will not be out for a few more months. I just ahve to wait to get a new filter...humm I wonder if I can talk them into replacing my old filter with the new one
05-21-2002, 11:17 AM
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this new filter and the polished finish have been out for some time.
at least 6 months...
i know they were out prior to the purchase of my Injen CAI...
ive read from various places that the Injen filter element is better then both the new AEM and the K&N.
true?
but I do believe AEM came out with their new filter once they realized Injen was waxin the floor with the old one.
In any case, this new AEM filter has been out since at least last fall...
at least 6 months...
i know they were out prior to the purchase of my Injen CAI...
ive read from various places that the Injen filter element is better then both the new AEM and the K&N.
true?
but I do believe AEM came out with their new filter once they realized Injen was waxin the floor with the old one.
In any case, this new AEM filter has been out since at least last fall...
05-21-2002, 11:22 AM
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Originally posted by soopa
but I do believe AEM came out with their new filter once they realized Injen was waxin the floor with the old one.
but I do believe AEM came out with their new filter once they realized Injen was waxin the floor with the old one.
from what i understand it was they found a better design for a cheaper price. They also realized the velocity stacks in the k&n were doing more harm then good.
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Originally posted by chikai
but really though....is 1-3hp gain really going to make a difference on a 190+whp car?
I know just w/ the temperature changing slightly it effects the whp quite a bit.
If they have improved their air horn it's in the inside near the base of the cone. That's old news...RS Akimoto has been doing that for years.
but really though....is 1-3hp gain really going to make a difference on a 190+whp car?
I know just w/ the temperature changing slightly it effects the whp quite a bit.
If they have improved their air horn it's in the inside near the base of the cone. That's old news...RS Akimoto has been doing that for years.
True- RS Akimoto did have some good filter designs. If you can get intake air into a vortex within the pipe, minus the turbulance, you can see WHP gains. Still though, temp, and humidity will sway the HP no matter what type of filter is clamped on.
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Originally posted by JimBob
Has anyone scientifically compared which CAI is best(in terms of HP and MPG) and what the gains(if any) really are?
Has anyone scientifically compared which CAI is best(in terms of HP and MPG) and what the gains(if any) really are?
8-12 HP I believe the DYNO showed.
If you put it side-by-side with the AEM it is a more direct path from the filter to the throttle body so airflow should be better.
It’s a MOOT point though, because you can’t buy them anymore.
Shawn S
05-21-2002, 11:30 AM
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Originally posted by Shawn S
Xephyr used to claim the highest gains on his CAI.
It’s a MOOT point though, because you can’t buy them anymore.
Xephyr used to claim the highest gains on his CAI.
It’s a MOOT point though, because you can’t buy them anymore.
05-21-2002, 11:35 AM
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from what i understand it was they found a better design for a cheaper price. They also realized the velocity stacks in the k&n were doing more harm then good.
from what i understand it was they found a better design for a cheaper price. They also realized the velocity stacks in the k&n were doing more harm then good.
just felt like pokin at the AEM lovers
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Originally posted by Shawn S
Well I know his credibility has always been an issue, but Xephyr used to claim the highest gains on his CAI.
8-12 HP I believe the DYNO showed.
If you put it side-by-side with the AEM it is a more direct path from the filter to the throttle body so airflow should be better.
It’s a MOOT point though, because you can’t buy them anymore.
Shawn S
Well I know his credibility has always been an issue, but Xephyr used to claim the highest gains on his CAI.
8-12 HP I believe the DYNO showed.
If you put it side-by-side with the AEM it is a more direct path from the filter to the throttle body so airflow should be better.
It’s a MOOT point though, because you can’t buy them anymore.
Shawn S
has proven to give more power at the top end, where as a longer pipe will give at the lower end. (ref. to DC Sports) It ultimately depends on what you want to do with the car.
The anwer to our probs. is a affordable SC system that will just pressurize the entire system once and for all.
05-21-2002, 11:36 AM
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Originally posted by soopa
your prolly right.
just felt like pokin at the AEM lovers
your prolly right.
just felt like pokin at the AEM lovers
ya i figured that, ready to start this again you ignorant fuck
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Velocity stacks work on 4 cylinders...since most of them don't have a big enough TB to suck in sufficient air. The Type-S just craves air...as much as it can get....hell mount the biggest freakin filter you can find on your TB and dyno it...I bet you can get a lot more than 12 whp...
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Originally posted by Mike
HA! I know someone who did this and later had problems w/his TB.
HA! I know someone who did this and later had problems w/his TB.
. . . mounting a "Large ass Filter" or the "Power Stack"
05-21-2002, 02:06 PM
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Originally posted by Mike
HA! I know someone who did this and later had problems w/his TB.
HA! I know someone who did this and later had problems w/his TB.
fuck it, run w/o a filter
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Originally posted by Shawn S
Well I know his credibility has always been an issue, but Xephyr used to claim the highest gains on his CAI.
8-12 HP I believe the DYNO showed.
If you put it side-by-side with the AEM it is a more direct path from the filter to the throttle body so airflow should be better.
It’s a MOOT point though, because you can’t buy them anymore.
Shawn S
Well I know his credibility has always been an issue, but Xephyr used to claim the highest gains on his CAI.
8-12 HP I believe the DYNO showed.
If you put it side-by-side with the AEM it is a more direct path from the filter to the throttle body so airflow should be better.
It’s a MOOT point though, because you can’t buy them anymore.
Shawn S
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Originally posted by Kkranghkar
The AEM dyno on their web page shows 12.2 hp gain.
The AEM dyno on their web page shows 12.2 hp gain.
Unless the 12.2 for the AEM is with the new filter.
12 for the Xephyr sticks in my head for some reason.
Shawn S
05-21-2002, 10:54 PM
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You would think that this is idea of a shorter pipe would yield more HP. Not exactly true. The shorter pipe, i.e. a "short ram"
has proven to give more power at the top end, where as a longer pipe will give at the lower end. (ref. to DC Sports) It ultimately depends on what you want to do with the car.
The anwer to our probs. is a affordable SC system that will just pressurize the entire system once and for all.
You would think that this is idea of a shorter pipe would yield more HP. Not exactly true. The shorter pipe, i.e. a "short ram"
has proven to give more power at the top end, where as a longer pipe will give at the lower end. (ref. to DC Sports) It ultimately depends on what you want to do with the car.
The anwer to our probs. is a affordable SC system that will just pressurize the entire system once and for all.
The answer is to have TWO pipes - one long and one short, and have it switch between them. Yes, I am insane.
05-21-2002, 11:01 PM
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The answer is to have TWO pipes - one long and one short, and have it switch between them. Yes, I am insane.
The answer is to have TWO pipes - one long and one short, and have it switch between them. Yes, I am insane.
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Originally posted by EricS
Yeah, just have the pipe retract as you gain RPMs
Yeah, just have the pipe retract as you gain RPMs
Constant Adjusting intake
Gains: 20WHP
Power: 12v/ dc- contro unit
system works based on temp./ hum./ engine speed
Price: 249.99
I think I'm going to leave work early today.
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