Is Acura CLS class higher than Maxima SE?

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Old 11-29-2002, 10:22 AM
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
It's some of the prick owners. Most Maxima owners see their car as a baby 540 or GS 400. Some new guys with the VQ think it's better than damn near everything. In reading the complaints of the newer models (now they think they have 240hp and not 255) and terrible build quality, advantage CL-S.
Both are GREAT cars for 20k though. Acura dealer service though wonsz Nissan.

How about an I35 to a CL-S?


Acura has nothing that can touch the GS, SC, LS, LX overall. Look at the price difference.
Yeah agree, CLS/TLS is bellow Lexus GS.... even 300 model.

The only Lexus we can compete is ES300....

How about Acura NSX, it can be a competitor to Lexus GS 400?
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Well I must say Lexus cars are nice. But Lexus is on the same level as Acura. The new RL is going to give the GS300 HELL. The gs might sell more but the RL is going to be nice. Also what do Lexus have that compare to the NSX.
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Originally posted by blk_coupe
Well I must say Lexus cars are nice. But Lexus is on the same level as Acura. The new RL is going to give the GS300 HELL. The gs might sell more but the RL is going to be nice. Also what do Lexus have that compare to the NSX.
I think Lexus GS 400 series is above RL..... but thats just my oppionion
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX



Acura has nothing that can touch the GS, SC, LS, LX overall. Look at the price difference.

whO Cares

I think most of us know those cost more, certainly the snob owners are aware of it :P
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"I think Lexus GS 400 series is above RL..... but thats just my oppionion"

That's way i said GS300.
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How about Acura NSX, it can be a competitor to Lexus GS 400?
Hmm, yes it is. It is a very low volume, Aluminum, High-Performance TERROR!!! It is BETTER than the GS. Shoot even back in 1990 it was 60k, it is now 90k. The GS loaded is 55k.

NSX>GS
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this has to be the dumbest thread. There is a mix of snobs, morons and insecure shits.

RussianDude, do u really think the 90k 2 seat EXOTIC SPORTS CAR competes with a 50K 4 door luxury sports sedan????
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Originally posted by Acura3.0CLP
this has to be the dumbest thread. There is a mix of snobs, morons and insecure shits.

RussianDude, do u really think the 90k 2 seat EXOTIC SPORTS CAR competes with a 50K 4 door luxury sports sedan????
no, can't be compared.... we were just talking about top of the line Acura models....
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Originally posted by Acura3.0CLP
this has to be the dumbest thread. There is a mix of snobs, morons and insecure shits.
So, where do you fit?
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Acura is a better name than Nissan ... no debate.

Is the CLS a better car than the Maxima?

Depends on what you're comparing.

Interior & finish ... CLS

Bang for the buck and exterior (subjective I admit) ... Maxima.

I actually just test-drove a 2k1 CLS today. Holy crap .. those cars hold their value about as miserably as a Maxima!

2001 CLS with all options ... 9000 miles .. $16K USD!!!

Now .. this is my first time venturing onto this forum in months. What's wrong with the car? Why is the resale so sh!t? I just read the FAQ forum about the trannie ... is that why?

Also .. heard a rumour that this model is being discontinued (from an Infiniti salesman) ... is that true?

Great car ... but don't know if we want to buy a 2nd hand if it's going to be headaches & obsolete.

Thanks!
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Originally posted by ohboiya

2001 CLS with all options ... 9000 miles .. $16K USD!!!

Now .. this is my first time venturing onto this forum in months. What's wrong with the car? Why is the resale so sh!t? I just read the FAQ forum about the trannie ... is that why?

Also .. heard a rumour that this model is being discontinued (from an Infiniti salesman) ... is that true?

Great car ... but don't know if we want to buy a 2nd hand if it's going to be headaches & obsolete.

Thanks!
It can't be $16K USD, even trade in is higher..... Check out www.edmunds.com or www.kbb.com, 2001 CLS with 23000 miles will be around $19K trade in, $21K private seller, and $23K dealer.... Actually it says that CLS has above average trade in value.....

One thing I agree that Maxima offers more for the money you pay... but as you said Acura is a better name....

I am a little worried about 2004 Maxima, they will start making it in the US.... I am afraid of major quality issues..... same issues they had with ML mercedes made in US....
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I am a little worried about 2004 Maxima, they will start making it in the US.... I am afraid of major quality issues..... same issues they had with ML mercedes made in US....

I really hope you know that yo car was made in Ohio....
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... and this doesn't also apply to the U.S. made CL's?
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16k? Wow, I see used ones with alot more miles here selling for 21-23k for a 2001.

Originally posted by ohboiya
Acura is a better name than Nissan ... no debate.

Is the CLS a better car than the Maxima?

Depends on what you're comparing.

Interior & finish ... CLS

Bang for the buck and exterior (subjective I admit) ... Maxima.

I actually just test-drove a 2k1 CLS today. Holy crap .. those cars hold their value about as miserably as a Maxima!

2001 CLS with all options ... 9000 miles .. $16K USD!!!

Now .. this is my first time venturing onto this forum in months. What's wrong with the car? Why is the resale so sh!t? I just read the FAQ forum about the trannie ... is that why?

Also .. heard a rumour that this model is being discontinued (from an Infiniti salesman) ... is that true?

Great car ... but don't know if we want to buy a 2nd hand if it's going to be headaches & obsolete.

Thanks!
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Originally posted by Y2K3CL-S
... and this doesn't also apply to the U.S. made CL's?

Ok, here is a difference.... CLs were made in USA for more than one year. CLS is not the first Acura CL made in USA.....

Now, Maxima 2004 will be the FIRST Maxima ever made in USA.

There is always a chance for fuk up whenever they change country where they build it

I am sure by 2005 all the mistakes will be learned and fixed(if any).....
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Originally posted by russianDude
It can't be $16K USD, even trade in is higher.....
:laugh: ... dude .. I'm not lying to you ... that's what we see on autotrader.ca ... granted it's one example of about 13 cars listed .. even the dealer we spoke said that we could make an offer as low as $17.5K to get the one he was selling.

I need to know why it's so low .. will I regret buying it?
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Originally posted by ohboiya
:laugh: ... dude .. I'm not lying to you ... that's what we see on autotrader.ca ... granted it's one example of about 13 cars listed .. even the dealer we spoke said that we could make an offer as low as $17.5K to get the one he was selling.

I need to know why it's so low .. will I regret buying it?

I don't belive this... I just looked at auto trader in PA area, dealers are asking $23-24K for 2001 with 25-40K miles.....

Whats your zip code so I could see it?
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have you checked the carfax report on the car?
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Engine Maxima wins
Tranny CL wins for steptronic
Interior CL wins
Exterior same neither one is really hot
Handling CL wins again
Resale value about the same
Reliability same
Prestige Acura wins all the way.
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really hope you know that yo car was made in Ohio....
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Originally posted by russianDude
I don't belive this... I just looked at auto trader in PA area, dealers are asking $23-24K for 2001 with 25-40K miles.....

Whats your zip code so I could see it?
Hey bud,

I'm in Toronto, Canada ... it's autotrader.ca ... but apparently she went on this evening & the listing was removed so I'm assuming it's been sold. Regardless ... she's going to put in an offer for the one being sold @ the dealership which is a bit more expensive ... let's hope the trannie holds up! We're both not toooo worried because we already know about Acura's customer service.

Wish us luck! She's going to put in her offer @ $17K (note ... all my figures are Canadian dollars translated into USD using 1.6)
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Re: Re: Is Acura CLS class higher than Maxima SE?

Originally posted by SilverBullet
A Moron and he was wrong. lol

27k for my car new...

28k for a 6spd right now at dealer locally. CL-S bran new.
bullshit; 28k for a 6spd CLS out the door brand new? if that was true id be flying down to texas tomorrow.
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Originally posted by ohboiya
:laugh: ... dude .. I'm not lying to you ... that's what we see on autotrader.ca ... granted it's one example of about 13 cars listed .. even the dealer we spoke said that we could make an offer as low as $17.5K to get the one he was selling.

I need to know why it's so low .. will I regret buying it?
Sorry all the sources on the net, the dealers, etc do not agree with what you are saying.

I got offered 22k for my 2002 CL-S.

2001 was selling on the lot for 23k.
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Originally posted by lou
Engine Maxima wins
Tranny CL wins for steptronic
Interior CL wins
Exterior same neither one is really hot
Handling CL wins again
Resale value about the same
Reliability same
Prestige Acura wins all the way.
Resale WRONG.

My maxima I bought loaded for 26k. It was stickerd at 29k. 9 months later when I traded it in for the CL-S, it was only worth 15k.

And that was the highest any dealer in town would give me. I went to many dealers.
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Re: Re: Re: Is Acura CLS class higher than Maxima SE?

Originally posted by 97AcuraCL
bullshit; 28k for a 6spd CLS out the door brand new? if that was true id be flying down to texas tomorrow.
Dead serious.

Ask BL^5.

Call...

www.gunnacura.com

And ask them. They are priced at 28k.
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Originally posted by 1SICKLEX
Lamborghinis are made in Ohio I hope you know
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