Accord V6 Turbo Kit on Acura CL Type s?
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Accord V6 Turbo Kit on Acura CL Type s?
This may be a stupid question to ask but I just became very curious after reading several different forums on turbo kits for Acura CL's and v6 Accords. If you're interested then please read what I have to say and my question will be at the end of my rambling 
I started on this thread. (I'm sure many of you have already come across it at some point) https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=turbo
Now this guy claimed that it would fit a 2nd Gen CL. Now I know that's just his word, but this guy has supposedly sold several other items over Acurazine with good results.
I did some quick looking and found a turbo kit for a V6 accord and found this. (Nothing special I know but an example nonetheless) http://xs-power.com/acura-honda-turbokits-16.htm
Now to me, it appears that the headers bolting right up to the block look identical to the set I ordered and installed from XS a while back on my CL. http://xs-power.com/acura-honda-nonturbo-headers-2.htm Even if they're not, Perhaps I could bolt the kit up to the headers that I already have and scrap the down pipe I have installed already. (To avoid making custom piping)
I'm not too familiar on the differences of body designs between the CL's and Accords but what raises the possibility in my mind is the fact that the guy who was selling his custom kit above claimed his would fit a CL. Now whether that's true or not I don't know. But if his kit would, why not the XS one? I would imagine that they would be somewhat similar.
So if you have yet to see the question being asked here, my question is: Would the V6 Accord kit would fit in an 03 Acura CL Type-S. With the ability to use the pre-existing headers if needed. (It's a manual so the engine mount clearance could be the problem there) Any feedback is great.
Thanks!
I started on this thread. (I'm sure many of you have already come across it at some point) https://acurazine.com/forums/showthr...ighlight=turbo
Now this guy claimed that it would fit a 2nd Gen CL. Now I know that's just his word, but this guy has supposedly sold several other items over Acurazine with good results.
I did some quick looking and found a turbo kit for a V6 accord and found this. (Nothing special I know but an example nonetheless) http://xs-power.com/acura-honda-turbokits-16.htm
Now to me, it appears that the headers bolting right up to the block look identical to the set I ordered and installed from XS a while back on my CL. http://xs-power.com/acura-honda-nonturbo-headers-2.htm Even if they're not, Perhaps I could bolt the kit up to the headers that I already have and scrap the down pipe I have installed already. (To avoid making custom piping)
I'm not too familiar on the differences of body designs between the CL's and Accords but what raises the possibility in my mind is the fact that the guy who was selling his custom kit above claimed his would fit a CL. Now whether that's true or not I don't know. But if his kit would, why not the XS one? I would imagine that they would be somewhat similar.
So if you have yet to see the question being asked here, my question is: Would the V6 Accord kit would fit in an 03 Acura CL Type-S. With the ability to use the pre-existing headers if needed. (It's a manual so the engine mount clearance could be the problem there) Any feedback is great.
Thanks!
There are minor variances, but for the most part, it will work. And yes, the headers that you have are the same that is in the turbo kit.
The million dollar question for all of these builds are:
What are you tuning on?
The million dollar question for all of these builds are:
What are you tuning on?
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^call Rodney!!!
he's actually in the delivery room right now, a baby girl!
From this thread:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/group-buy-jnr-ecu-dynos-gains-12-23-%3B-prices-posted-1-7-a-841554/
J&R ecu and METH:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/j-r-ecu-water-meth-injection-852210/
he's actually in the delivery room right now, a baby girl!
Originally Posted by Rodney
I am debating if I should become a Vendor here on Acurazine. Hence I wanted to start a feeler thread for the JnR ECU. Pending on the interest on this thread, I will become a Vendor and start the Group buy.
The ECU will come with some options. Knock Monitor, RDX Injectors + Pigtails, Custom Fuel Pump.
Lets get some interest and then if the mods permit me, I will post how much this is going to cost you guys.
EDIT: Am posting this new thread as the previous one by swoosh was/got deleted.
The graphs are on a OEM 3.2 (Base) Motor....
1> 4th gear pull. Stock ECU. Primary cats in place.
Mods are: Jpipe, Third cat delete, Greddy catback, A filterless v2 intake
2> 3th gear pull. Stock ECU. Primary cats in place.
Mods are: Jpipe, Third cat delete, Greddy catback, A filterless v2 intake
3> 3th gear pull. Primary cats in place.
Mods are: JNR ECU, Jpipe,Third cat delete, Greddy catback, A filterless v2 intake
So from the ECU on a STOCK car with some bolt ons you can see 20WHP/23WTQ
Quote:
Originally Posted by jandrnextlevelperformance
More Pricing.....Updated Options....
NOTE: The prices will include Shipping and Handling as well as Paypal fees. Shipping to Canada add $35 dollars.
The ECU price includes:
Jandr plug and play ECU
ECU harness prewired onto jumper harness
Base map preloaded into ECU
When ordering please include,
Year of Car ?
Auto or Manual ?
Base or TypeS ?
Upgades done to the car please include all mods this will help get the most accurate BASE MAP
PAYPAL ID: jandrnextlevel@yahoo.com
PRICES BEFORE JAN 31st
ECU: 1225
Knock Monitor: 100
AEM 30-4100 AEM Wideband UEGO Gauge Controller: 180
12" Harness: 60
Injectors: 265
Custom Fuel Pump Assembly Aeromotive 340: $275
P2R EGR Block off plate: $19
Innovative LC1: $205 (Controller + Wideband + Gauge)
Innovative LC1: $150 (Controller + Wideband)
Pigtails: Am still working on a good price for those. Dont send in payment for those. If you need them, let me know and will PM you the price.
After Jan 31st prices
ECU: 1395
Knock Monitor: 125
AEM Wideband: 190
12" Harness: 75
Injectors: 280
Custom Fuel Pump Assembly Aeromotive 340: $315
P2R EGR Block off plate: $21
Innovative LC1: $220 (Controller + Wideband + Gauge)
Innovative LC1: $160 (Controller + Wideband)
So in the GB you will be saving a total of $280
EDIT: Mods can you please reflect the changes to 1st post ? Thank you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jandrnextlevelperformance
and here is the new paypal id:
jandrperformance45@yahoo.com
Mods if you can please update the first post....
Quote:
Originally Posted by jandrnextlevelperformance
Just spoke with swoosh and we have an updated spreadsheet which he will post in a little bit....
For the people who have already paid:
Will have your ECU's ready to go in 2 odd weeks. Expect them by 20th Feb
For the people who have showed interest and are wanting to do a part payment:
You can send a payment for $300 as a NON REFUNDABLE deposit to my paypal ID:
jandrperformance45@yahoo.com
The deposit has to be paid before Jan 31st 11:59PM EST. You will have 2 weeks until Feb 14th 11:59PM EST to pay the rest of the amount. To be fair to the people who have already paid, please include a 3% charge on the payments sent.
So for example if your order is for $1225. 3% is $36.75. If you already paid $300 as deposit before Jan 31st, please pay the remaining $961.75 as your final payment.
Thank you.
MODS: If you can please update the 1st post with this.
The ECU will come with some options. Knock Monitor, RDX Injectors + Pigtails, Custom Fuel Pump.
Lets get some interest and then if the mods permit me, I will post how much this is going to cost you guys.
EDIT: Am posting this new thread as the previous one by swoosh was/got deleted.
The graphs are on a OEM 3.2 (Base) Motor....
1> 4th gear pull. Stock ECU. Primary cats in place.
Mods are: Jpipe, Third cat delete, Greddy catback, A filterless v2 intake
2> 3th gear pull. Stock ECU. Primary cats in place.
Mods are: Jpipe, Third cat delete, Greddy catback, A filterless v2 intake
3> 3th gear pull. Primary cats in place.
Mods are: JNR ECU, Jpipe,Third cat delete, Greddy catback, A filterless v2 intake
So from the ECU on a STOCK car with some bolt ons you can see 20WHP/23WTQ
Quote:
Originally Posted by jandrnextlevelperformance
More Pricing.....Updated Options....
NOTE: The prices will include Shipping and Handling as well as Paypal fees. Shipping to Canada add $35 dollars.
The ECU price includes:
Jandr plug and play ECU
ECU harness prewired onto jumper harness
Base map preloaded into ECU
When ordering please include,
Year of Car ?
Auto or Manual ?
Base or TypeS ?
Upgades done to the car please include all mods this will help get the most accurate BASE MAP
PAYPAL ID: jandrnextlevel@yahoo.com
PRICES BEFORE JAN 31st
ECU: 1225
Knock Monitor: 100
AEM 30-4100 AEM Wideband UEGO Gauge Controller: 180
12" Harness: 60
Injectors: 265
Custom Fuel Pump Assembly Aeromotive 340: $275
P2R EGR Block off plate: $19
Innovative LC1: $205 (Controller + Wideband + Gauge)
Innovative LC1: $150 (Controller + Wideband)
Pigtails: Am still working on a good price for those. Dont send in payment for those. If you need them, let me know and will PM you the price.
After Jan 31st prices
ECU: 1395
Knock Monitor: 125
AEM Wideband: 190
12" Harness: 75
Injectors: 280
Custom Fuel Pump Assembly Aeromotive 340: $315
P2R EGR Block off plate: $21
Innovative LC1: $220 (Controller + Wideband + Gauge)
Innovative LC1: $160 (Controller + Wideband)
So in the GB you will be saving a total of $280
EDIT: Mods can you please reflect the changes to 1st post ? Thank you.
Quote:
Originally Posted by jandrnextlevelperformance
and here is the new paypal id:
jandrperformance45@yahoo.com
Mods if you can please update the first post....
Quote:
Originally Posted by jandrnextlevelperformance
Just spoke with swoosh and we have an updated spreadsheet which he will post in a little bit....
For the people who have already paid:
Will have your ECU's ready to go in 2 odd weeks. Expect them by 20th Feb
For the people who have showed interest and are wanting to do a part payment:
You can send a payment for $300 as a NON REFUNDABLE deposit to my paypal ID:
jandrperformance45@yahoo.com
The deposit has to be paid before Jan 31st 11:59PM EST. You will have 2 weeks until Feb 14th 11:59PM EST to pay the rest of the amount. To be fair to the people who have already paid, please include a 3% charge on the payments sent.
So for example if your order is for $1225. 3% is $36.75. If you already paid $300 as deposit before Jan 31st, please pay the remaining $961.75 as your final payment.
Thank you.
MODS: If you can please update the 1st post with this.
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/group-buy-jnr-ecu-dynos-gains-12-23-%3B-prices-posted-1-7-a-841554/
J&R ecu and METH:
https://acurazine.com/forums/3g-tl-performance-parts-modifications-112/j-r-ecu-water-meth-injection-852210/
mods on the car
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf5pFNGEl34
OEM ECU 4th gear pull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5iiTgzCw0
OEM ECU 3rd gear pull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=105-Uc58FOg
what MS3 can do for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RBzbpBuR4
MS3 and OBDII scan tool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGc3vraPrsY
gains with MS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtfSHdQqLqU
am still trying to upload 4th gear runs with MS3....will post em up shortly...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cf5pFNGEl34
OEM ECU 4th gear pull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2G5iiTgzCw0
OEM ECU 3rd gear pull
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=105-Uc58FOg
what MS3 can do for ya
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t8RBzbpBuR4
MS3 and OBDII scan tool
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uGc3vraPrsY
gains with MS3
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HtfSHdQqLqU
am still trying to upload 4th gear runs with MS3....will post em up shortly...
@Sonnick: yeah, i was kinda expecting that....since the cats are choking up the path, no matter how free flowing your rest of the exhaust is, it doesnt matter you see 
@Fenda rolla: here they are
4th gear, stock vtec engagement, "special" PCD-Jpipe-3rd cat delete, Greddy Exhaust, AEM V2 intake, MS3 ECU:
Videos:
3rd and 4th gear run with stock vtec engagement, "special" PCD-Jpipe-3rd cat delete, Greddy Exhaust, AEM V2 intake, STOCK ECU, 93 Octane:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-TGcECOj_M
3rd gear run with stock vtec engagement, "special" PCD-Jpipe-3rd cat delete, Greddy Exhaust, AEM V2 intake, STOCK ECU, 108 Octane:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9cNJ5hg0Dg
4th gear run with stock vtec engagement, "special" PCD-Jpipe-3rd cat delete, Greddy Exhaust, AEM V2 intake, STOCK ECU, 108 Octane:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4IcQfeKpKY
Torque = Flat line. 4th gear. MS3. 93 Octane
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BRHEAEcG4
Vtec @ 4800 rpm. 4th gear. MS3. 93 Octane - MUST WATCH
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nUmyDtidTU
Different VTEC engagement points explained
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2NA_OQgKeM
Graph comparisions to VTEC at 5000rpm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZfPYOmEDqg
PS: Steven Bell you have a PM to change the thread heading once again
@Fenda rolla: here they are
4th gear, stock vtec engagement, "special" PCD-Jpipe-3rd cat delete, Greddy Exhaust, AEM V2 intake, MS3 ECU:
Videos:
3rd and 4th gear run with stock vtec engagement, "special" PCD-Jpipe-3rd cat delete, Greddy Exhaust, AEM V2 intake, STOCK ECU, 93 Octane:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=9-TGcECOj_M
3rd gear run with stock vtec engagement, "special" PCD-Jpipe-3rd cat delete, Greddy Exhaust, AEM V2 intake, STOCK ECU, 108 Octane:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=H9cNJ5hg0Dg
4th gear run with stock vtec engagement, "special" PCD-Jpipe-3rd cat delete, Greddy Exhaust, AEM V2 intake, STOCK ECU, 108 Octane:
www.youtube.com/watch?v=I4IcQfeKpKY
Torque = Flat line. 4th gear. MS3. 93 Octane
www.youtube.com/watch?v=Q2BRHEAEcG4
Vtec @ 4800 rpm. 4th gear. MS3. 93 Octane - MUST WATCH
www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nUmyDtidTU
Different VTEC engagement points explained
www.youtube.com/watch?v=X2NA_OQgKeM
Graph comparisions to VTEC at 5000rpm
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EZfPYOmEDqg
PS: Steven Bell you have a PM to change the thread heading once again
Last edited by justnspace; Apr 18, 2012 at 10:21 PM.
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Well I feel as if this went a bit off topic. But I appreciate the responses! Very interesting though. I understand the lack of turbo 2nd gen CL's. Tuning is the largest obstacle IMO on these cars. But if what justnspace posted is true it should really be a breeze to turbo a CL. I'm really not into having a 400 HP FWD car personally. 6lbs of boost seems very moderate to me which is what I would be looking for. If they come out with that system I think I may invest in a kit. lets see... $750 for the ECU tune, $500 for the XS kit. Seems cheap. Plus solenoid, wiring, hoses, the works. I would assume that using this method It could be around $2,500 depending on the turbo kit I bought. I feel like the XS kit is a little cheap in quality...
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Last edited by justnspace; Apr 19, 2012 at 07:41 AM.
It is. The turbos themselves are not known to last.
As far as tuning goes, Ive mentioned this in other threads multiple times. The J&R ECU is great for 3G TLs because they use a CANBUS system. Everything in the car is run through the ECU.
The CL is not the same. Unless you have an automatic CL, it doesnt make sense to spend the $2k on it. You can get a full standalone for less then the J&R ECU.
As far as tuning goes, Ive mentioned this in other threads multiple times. The J&R ECU is great for 3G TLs because they use a CANBUS system. Everything in the car is run through the ECU.
The CL is not the same. Unless you have an automatic CL, it doesnt make sense to spend the $2k on it. You can get a full standalone for less then the J&R ECU.
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