SupraManAG

Im glad to see that 10 years later technology my car is running as strong as todays "sport tuned vehicles". Driving home today I notice a silver car passes me to my left. We both stop at the upcoming light. On green the car takes off noticeably fast. So fast that I was too lazy to even catch up to it. Luckily the following light turned red. Pulled up next to it. MonteCarloSS. Rims were deff 18" stock. Looked pretty nice with the dual exhaust. I remember seeing other SSs but they were pretty stupid looking but this one no. Anywho. On green we take off. Me not expecting a competition I didnt really have a great start but once i noticed they were pulling on me I gunned it. 100nchange mph later I lost by 1/2 cars length. Honestly I was stunned that I lost. Aren't SSs rated at 200hp V6? Thats what I though till I came home and did my math. I lost by 1/2 cars length to a 5.3l chevy small blcok generating 303hp. I dont know what im putting out with the recent mods but damn. Vtec controller next then pulleys after that.

JBlueCLS6

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I don't think he was trying

subbuzz

not bad but you'll lose to my 200hp v6



if my tec kicks in cuz my car is a lemon

asianspec

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its better than losing to a saturn redline I guess either.

















j/k percy.

Accord_V6_400m

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A V6 SS

Yeah, theres a reason why it says SS on the trunk

SupraManAG

why do H22s get bad mouthed on this site

DaInFaMMuS1

icant imagine y, they're awesome. rode in my boys h22 accord the other day, it was amazing. Loud, but amazing. Good death Are those all the mods u currently have in ur sig?

SupraManAG

yeah thats all i have done for now. a lot of people dont know the h22s true potential. its a beast within. if im not mistaken euroh22R runs 12s all day long on his cl. im going to go buy his vtec controller in about 15 mins

SupraManAG

get your vtec workin already so i can dust u
i dont want u sayin it wasnt workin when i beat u
oh yeah make sure you press that "faster" button in your brain so when u get shut down your dreams will dissappear from your head.

AznX TL

i dont believe any of his stories, he's the one that bragged about the lnsyone white cl and tried to play it off as his own h-t. then he comes on here saying he beat a NSX by 2-3 cars by a roll and was doing 135 in 4th gear........12secs.......i dont believe it

SatinSilverAV6

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07 monte carlo ss comes with 5.3L V8 303HP so you probobly didn't race that one.

JBlueCLS6

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That kid is a liar. Last time I was at the track he was there and I saw him at the track putting down mid 15s. His car is by no means fast.

JBlueCLS6

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And I know someone With a Fully bolted/Cammed 94 AccordLX Coupe h22 which I'm almost certain is lighter then a CL and they could only barely break into 14's.

732xghost

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barely lighter.

when he was running mid 15's i believe he had an F23, which i bought from him. i know kids in the area that can vouch for his times. people i work with even. if that kid runs the car with his set-up now i gaurentee you that you wont see that thing running mid 15's.

i still dont get why you people sleep on H22's either. especially when some of you havent taken into consideration the work these 2 dudes put into there motors.

JBlueCLS6

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No sorry... The time I saw him do mid 15s was when I did a mid 13 second run back late in the season. I forgot when I went but it was like in October if I'm not mistaken. He ran mid 15s.

I can careless who can lie for his time. I saw him with in Etown and made sure to watch him after that BS NSX statement he made I was curious to see what hed run with only a Bolted H22. And sure enough he did not get anywhere near the 13s or 14s for that matter. Not exactly an NSX beating time.

No CL/Accord will break into the low 14s unless it has some form of FI period.

JBlueCLS6

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Actually I should Have said with only bolt-ons. Possibly... you might be able if you do low 14s with extensive motor work.

732xghost

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interesting.

this must have been the cruise night that i had to work that day??

well honestly i cant vouch for him personally with times. i know the kid and his setup thats it, but i never seen him ran. i only believe what i've been told by other people that have seen the car run. but im not gonna lie 15's is a bad time for the set-up hes got going on. idk whats up with that.

732xghost

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by the way, what set-up you running with, i havent seen your car since that cruise night over the summer. were you running 14's then or 13's?? i forgot.

JBlueCLS6

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It wasn't a cruise night. It was on a Wednesday or a Friday.

Check my profile for my current list of modifications.

732xghost

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wow awesome set-up. hope i get to see it at the track.

SupraManAG

we were both doing 130 in 4th last night on the garnen state pkwy
my third tops at 120

SupraManAG

I think im past that stage where im learning how to read. I also believe you should be over the stage of bitchy jealousy. Its really really dumb of you to say that. K?

SupraManAG

Im not going to join this argument but iv seen his car. I've raced it. Its fast.

JBlueCLS6

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I don't think you know what fast is if you think his car is fast.

JBlueCLS6

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Not to hate on him but lets recall

1. He posed stating he had a car which wasn't even his (Kinda like AcuraCLTypeS03) and got caught lying.

2. He makes a far-fetched claim stating he beat an NSX. Virtually any NSX should run 13's regardless of driver. This would mean his car is a mid/low 13 or 12 second car. On a Naturally aspirated H22 in a heavy ass CL? Cmon that was total bullshit.

3. I see him at Englishtown run after I had just finished running. Remembering his story I make Sure to watch him run and yet sure enough a mid 15 second pass.

You Might... JUST MIGHT be around 200WHP give or take a few with a shitload of boltons on a CL with a H22 not to mention the huge weight. That isn't gonna put you better than a mid/high 14 second pass.

AznX TL

checkmate.
i do believe supraman beat the monte carlo, it was stock so whom ever inside probably didnt know how to drive or they were short shifting because of break-in period

SupraManAG

Lets recall.
I own a CL. First generation to be exact. No offense to our cars but they are slow. I never purchased it for the speed but i loved the way they look. Now as far as fast the H22 is fast for most 4cyl engines. Don't start with no K20 or B18 nothing because then ill tell u that u have no idea what ur talking about. It has nothing to do because I have a H22. Anywho. Im sure you think your car is fast. Well I believe my car is fast as well. If you want to compare, it has 2 less cylinders from yours, no supercharger, minus the rest of the things you have and it hauls ass. I am comparing you to me because I have a similar setup at EuroR.

As far as him being a liar or not I cannot say much on that. He has stood true to his word and has been correct with me. I know he had his H22 intially. Blew it. Threw his old engine back then had the H22 redone.
The NSX I have heard it from numerous people that Honda/Acura makes a base NSX rated at 220/240hp. I didnt believe it myself but maybe that what he raced.

I have driven plenty of fast cars. I have worked as valet for 2 years. Driven shitty Saturns with no reverse to Ferrari, Lamborghini, Rolls, Bentley, Porsche4 Turbo. There is no defenition in fast if you dont create a rank

Accord_V6_400m

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I'm pretty sure the Accords can break into the low 14s/13's NA

JBlueCLS6

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Yeah with a J32 6 speed.

I'm not sober enough to place a decent arguement. Supraman Your an idiot if you think your car is fast and I don't even think my Superchargged S is fast either. It is a quick daily driver and that's all it is. I have another car for speed.

Face the facts.... a bolted H22 will just be around the 200WHP mark and its Torque is hardly any better than an F series engine. The CLs are fucking heavy as shit and that shit torque from a 4 banger aint gonna help the car move that well.

I too had an Accord and I contemplated doing an H22 but came to the realization why would I spend like 4k+ with paying for swap of the engine for a car that'll still run 15s after the swap. Your car CAN NOT compete with a Small Block V8 that was in that Monte Carlo so stop shitting yourself, he was either toying with you or a complete idiot.

SupraManAG

Ill follow the idiots path then. If I'm categorizing my engine with all other 4 cyl engine and im calling it fast. It is for what it is. If you dont like what u hear then do me a favor. Shut the fuck up. If you have a problem shutting the fuck up come here and ill shut it good. ok?
Please do not come up in here writing how everyone is a liar and they are idiots. I don't take enjoyment out of writing bullshit or wasting my time with you. Think about that.

wobie

I'm not getting myself into this "argument."

Supraman, Nice race. I haven't seen all these new mods that you speak of. Keep it up man. We need to get a mini-meet going really soon.

JBlueCLS6, I saw your car at Woodbridge Mall earlier this week (can't remember what day it was). It looked damn nice. Good Work.

732xghost

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defenitly. especially a 4th generation accord.

Cocoa

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I wouldnt consider a 3000lb car heavy compared to today's cars. A 2nd gen weighs in at 3518, now that's heavy. The 1st gen four bangers come in a little over 3000lbs, and the 3.0's comine in at 3215lbs.

JBlueCLS6

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Shut me good? Hahaha... yeah okay....

You must be an Italian Guido who wears his little brothers T-Shirts and thinks buying muscles makes you tough don't you? You can buy muscles but you can't buy cajones.

1999 Acura CL weighs in at 3064

2003 Acura CL Weighs in at 3446

So maybe 400 pounds difference between the 4 banger and a 6 cyl.

1994 Honda Accord LX CPE MT 2822

More then 200 pounds less then the 4 cyl CL. This is the model my buddy had that he squeezed a high 14 out of with every bolt-on on his h22.

And I'll repeat myself once again, without boost a car that heavy can not break into times that a NSX or Monte Carlo will run with an h22.

SupraManAG

guess again. you dont need to know what i am but all u need to know is that i back my shit up no matter how idiotic.

Cocoa

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I by no mean was attempting to cause any drama. I was simply stating that the 1st gen 4 banger is not as heavy as everyone thinks. 3000lbs is a fair amount of weight for a car. 3500lbs is just too much for me.

Anyways, those Monte carlo's are FWD with a 4 speed auto making their gear ratios long. With 2 passangers in the SS, with an avergae weight of 150lbs per person, puts him at 3800lbs. Pretty sure the thing would be running a 15 with the extra weight, making this race possible (assuming the best possible time for the SS is a 14 flat). Especially since he wasn't going for that perfect 60' time.

And 3446lbs for the 6 speed if anything. But the majority have the autos which puts them over 3500lbs. I was reffering to their weight based on what I looked up. Not trying to argue the weight of the 6 speeds cause I only know it's slightly lighter, but do not know the exact weight. That's why I threw those numbers out there.

Again, no need for you to tell me you got balls, and I this and that...etc. Shit happens, and somtimes, you come across the mother fucker that can't run that perfect time like in the magazines. Throw in some factors that can go against the SS, and his CL could pull of this show.

cube

I owned a 97 Prelude SH with an h22 for a few years before my 03 CLS. And the h22 was a lot of fun, but definately not very fast. And after spending a lot of time on prelude forums, I know that even with bolt ons 200whp from an H22 is a stretch. It literally costed a few different guys thousands to get 200whp (going NA). So a first gen CL with an h22 would be fun, but not very quick.

732xghost

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he would be driving a G35 or a 3-series bimmer if he was typical NJ/NY gumba johnny. lol

but did your buddy do any internal engine work or clutch/flywheel??

shineynitelite

h22 cls arnt fast at all, just feel fast

JBlueCLS6

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He had an Exedy clutch and lightened flywheel. He basically had almost everything possible without going turbo.